Vikings going after Selvie

tayloner

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Good news for us, if Vikings give him a halfway decent contract that means compensatory pick for us. A guy like George Selvie is a fine enough player, but not someone the staff thinks they can't replace with a younger player with more upside. Selvie leaves, we get a compensatory 7th round pick and that turns into a Ken Bishop or Davon Coleman or Ben Gardner to replace him along the d-line (all of whom were either 7th round picks or UDFA).
 

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Proof that lazy scouting still goes on and not just with this team, but many. I'd like to think this team is doing it's part to get better in that department.
This is McClay's baby now- it seems to me. S. Jones pulls the purse strings, McClay seems to be sorting and giving the player input to him and Garrett. And Jerry is basically doing his drunken ballerina act for the public for his own pleasures.

I'm sure I'm oversimplifying, but this is what it's looking like, given the changes in behavior and the promotions of said individuals into higher offices, or more active roles. The timings of all said is more than coincidental and allowed by J Jones himself.

And since I have established in my own little reality that McClay is running the show with Garrett's input and Steven's purse... stringing and that this team has been operating consistently under their collective philosophy (that S Jones had to change despite his own words to the contrary regarding how the cap should operate) with Garrett and McClay now working things. I'd like to give this approach the shot it deserves.

I read comments like the team is "Moneyballing" like it's a derogatory term for both the team and the fans here that support the philosophy and I understand where some guys like Stasheroo and others are coming from.
The window just opened- you gotta jump!
If you don't jump- there goes our Superbowl!
Just like Denver has been trying to jump the last few years and other teams too innumerable to list who did that very thing and no Superbowl.
Just heartbreak and ruined years as the consequence.

Smouldering ruins and ashes that will take years to rise from.

That's the risk. You can jump, but never is a Superbowl guaranteed.
More likely it leads to long-term ruination, than success.

Long story short since I'm already losing myself the longer I type:
I'd like to see what this new direction does for this team. We've already suffered for two decades doing it one way and "jumping" every chance we could get. I'm willing to see.
I get Romo's window and yet I happen to keep knowing that my Cowboys fandom will outlive his career. Life and football will go on and if this young team can be in a position to do better after Romo's retirement than they were after Aikman's...

Yes.
In Denvers defense I think they would have made the SB if Peyton had not gotten that leg injury- he badly needs his legs when throwing due to his weakening arm and once he could not he was done. Keep him healthy and they might have done it this year. If you are going to go all in then do it. They had a good reason and frankly the Boys have one now.
 

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Good news for us, if Vikings give him a halfway decent contract that means compensatory pick for us.

Not all signings result in a comp pick. The kind of contract he will likely get will not make the cut.
 

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The Cowboys made no effort to retain these players for a reason. I dont think Selvie is a bad player, but in no way should the Cowboys be in a bidding war for him. We need des, dts, lbs, an rb, and a kick returner badly.
 

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In Denvers defense I think they would have made the SB if Peyton had not gotten that leg injury- he badly needs his legs when throwing due to his weakening arm and once he could not he was done. Keep him healthy and they might have done it this year. If you are going to go all in then do it. They had a good reason and frankly the Boys have one now.

I'm not disputing you there, but that's the risk you take when you go all-in. All it takes is just one major thing, just one like it did to them and BAM!
That's my point and why I also said I do understand where people are coming from when they advocate it. I get it. I don't necessarily disagree with it, but it has some major risks involved when you go in that direction and everything is more likely to blow up in your face than lead you to the promised land, historically speaking, by far.
 

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I'm not disputing you there, but that's the risk you take when you go all-in. All it takes is just one major thing, just one like it did to them and BAM!
That's my point and why I also said I do understand where people are coming from when they advocate it. I get it. I don't necessarily disagree with it, but it has some major risks involved when you go in that direction and everything is more likely to blow up in your face than lead you to the promised land, historically speaking, by far.

The only risk is not trying. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take

When you have a QB like Romo and an OL like ours the window is open

The Pats have had sustained success but 1 SB in the last decade, same with GB, same with BAL. I would rather go all in and take a chance.
 

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The only risk is not trying. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take

When you have a QB like Romo and an OL like ours the window is open

The Pats have had sustained success but 1 SB in the last decade, same with GB, same with BAL. I would rather go all in and take a chance.

I respect that. I really do. I can fall in line with it easily. Either way- I'm still rooting for this team and hoping for wins and a Superbowl just as much as you, or anyone else.
 

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I think one of Gardner, Edwards or Boatright would out play him in training camp anyway.

I have to admit I was disappointed in Boatright last year. While it's possible my expectations were too high, he didn't produce as I expected.
 

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Proof that lazy scouting still goes on and not just with this team, but many. I'd like to think this team is doing it's part to get better in that department.
This is McClay's baby now- it seems to me. S. Jones pulls the purse strings, McClay seems to be sorting and giving the player input to him and Garrett. And Jerry is basically doing his drunken ballerina act for the public for his own pleasures.

I'm sure I'm oversimplifying, but this is what it's looking like, given the changes in behavior and the promotions of said individuals into higher offices, or more active roles. The timings of all said is more than coincidental and allowed by J Jones himself.

And since I have established in my own little reality that McClay is running the show with Garrett's input and Steven's purse... stringing and that this team has been operating consistently under their collective philosophy (that S Jones had to change despite his own words to the contrary regarding how the cap should operate) with Garrett and McClay now working things. I'd like to give this approach the shot it deserves.

I read comments like the team is "Moneyballing" like it's a derogatory term for both the team and the fans here that support the philosophy and I understand where some guys like Stasheroo and others are coming from.
The window just opened- you gotta jump!
If you don't jump- there goes our Superbowl!
Just like Denver has been trying to jump the last few years and other teams too innumerable to list who did that very thing and no Superbowl.
Just heartbreak and ruined years as the consequence.

Smouldering ruins and ashes that will take years to rise from.

That's the risk. You can jump, but never is a Superbowl guaranteed.
More likely it leads to long-term ruination, than success.

Long story short since I'm already losing myself the longer I type:
I'd like to see what this new direction does for this team. We've already suffered for two decades doing it one way and "jumping" every chance we could get. I'm willing to see.
I get Romo's window and yet I happen to keep knowing that my Cowboys fandom will outlive his career. Life and football will go on and if this young team can be in a position to do better after Romo's retirement than they were after Aikman's...

Yes.

good to see some copy from ole Corso the observant one thanks post more
 
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