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Vikings Trading For Sam Bradford
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Here is how Philly's QB situation unfolded from March through Saturday:
March 1: Sam Bradford re-signs on two-year, $36 million deal. The deal allows the team to reasonably get out of the deal after one year, but guarantees Bradford $22 million at signing. This is like signing an apartment lease with your long-time girlfriend but refusing to give her an engagement ring.
March 9: Eagles sign Chase Daniel to a three-year, $21 million contract. Daniel is a Pederson protégé. Prior to the Bradford re-signing, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported multiple times that Pederson believes Daniel could be the starter. With the Daniel signing, the QB gig appears to be an open battle.
March 10: Pederson insists Sam Bradford is a firm No. 1 on the depth chart with Daniel signed to be the backup. The world remains skeptical.
April 20: Eagles trade for No. 2 overall pick with their sights on drafting strong-armed quarterback Carson Wentz from North Dakota State.
April 20: Roseman insists Sam Bradford remains the starting quarterback, despite the Eagles targeting a younger, prettier quarterback of the future. Rapoport reports the Eagles aren't trading Bradford.
April 20 (a lot happened this day): Reports begin to swirl that Bradford is angered and "hot" by the team moving up in the draft. (This is like if you got a side apartment while you shared that lease with your girlfriend.)
April 25: Sam Bradford wants a trade. Agent Tom Condon says Bradford won't attend voluntary workouts. Rapoport reports the Eagles won't budge on their stance. Roseman "reiterated" Bradford was the starter. This all seems like good chemistry.
April 28: Eagles select Carson Wentz with the No. 2 overall pick. Philly's brass says the rookie needs time to grow and learn behind Bradford and Daniel.
May 1: Bradford still staying away from the team as potential landing spots dry up.
May 9: After a two-week hissy fit, Bradford shows up for workouts.
May 17: Doug Pederson relays to media he told Bradford he was "the guy." Bradford insists he's happy.
June 3: Pederson announced that Bradford will be the Week 1 starter, barring injury. (Barring injury is a gaping qualification given Bradford's history.) Since it's before training camp, this feels like the Eaglestrying to make Bradford feel better about himself.
June 15: Carson Wentz locks himself in gas station bathroom in New Jersey.
July 17: Pederson says if the season started in July (it didn't) Wentz would be a healthy scratch (that's exactly what you want to hear about your future starting QB).
August 11: Bradford starts the first preseason game; completes his only pass attempt for 3 yards. Wentz takes a beating, goes 12-of-24 passing for 89 yards and an interception.
August 13: Wentz skips throwing at practice, but Pederson claims it was just soreness. Hours later, the team announced the rookie suffered a hairline fracture in his ribs. That redshirt year is looking more and more like a reality.
August 27: Bradford completes 17-of-27 passing for 162 yards, two TDs and an interception (which was blamed on Nelson Agholor) in the third preseason game, a.k.a. "the dress rehearsal."
August 29: Wentz is still in pain, NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reports, and misses the final three games of the preseason -- valuable reps for a quarterback in need of growing.
September 2: Heading into the season, Bradford is set to start, Daniel the veteran backup in case of injury, and Wentz will spend the season hold a clipboard, learning about Philly Cheesesteaks and correcting his footwork during practices.
September 3: #Breaking EAGLES TRADE BRADFORD TO VIKINGS. Days after Vikings quarterbackTeddy Bridgewater went down with a catastrophic injury, Roseman squeezes a first-round pick in 2017 and a fourth-rounder in 2018 from Minnesota for a semi-disgruntled quarterback (let's be honest, those feelings never 100 percent dissipated) that was likely gone next year.
Daniel likely will take over the starting gig to open the season, but jettisoning Bradford means we're far more likely to see Wentz on the field this season than we were a day ago. The Eagles might have wanted to give their rookie a full season to learn, but he'll probably see the field in 2016.
What a journey it's been for Howie. The twists and turns have been sharp and sudden for the returned GM. Perhaps the Eagles offense is slightly worse with Daniel than Bradford. Perhaps.
We haven't even played a meaningful game and the 2016 quarterback timeline in Philadelphia is insane. Who knows what will happen next week.
Here is how Philly's QB situation unfolded from March through Saturday:
March 1: Sam Bradford re-signs on two-year, $36 million deal. The deal allows the team to reasonably get out of the deal after one year, but guarantees Bradford $22 million at signing. This is like signing an apartment lease with your long-time girlfriend but refusing to give her an engagement ring.
March 9: Eagles sign Chase Daniel to a three-year, $21 million contract. Daniel is a Pederson protégé. Prior to the Bradford re-signing, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported multiple times that Pederson believes Daniel could be the starter. With the Daniel signing, the QB gig appears to be an open battle.
March 10: Pederson insists Sam Bradford is a firm No. 1 on the depth chart with Daniel signed to be the backup. The world remains skeptical.
April 20: Eagles trade for No. 2 overall pick with their sights on drafting strong-armed quarterback Carson Wentz from North Dakota State.
April 20: Roseman insists Sam Bradford remains the starting quarterback, despite the Eagles targeting a younger, prettier quarterback of the future. Rapoport reports the Eagles aren't trading Bradford.
April 20 (a lot happened this day): Reports begin to swirl that Bradford is angered and "hot" by the team moving up in the draft. (This is like if you got a side apartment while you shared that lease with your girlfriend.)
April 25: Sam Bradford wants a trade. Agent Tom Condon says Bradford won't attend voluntary workouts. Rapoport reports the Eagles won't budge on their stance. Roseman "reiterated" Bradford was the starter. This all seems like good chemistry.
April 28: Eagles select Carson Wentz with the No. 2 overall pick. Philly's brass says the rookie needs time to grow and learn behind Bradford and Daniel.
May 1: Bradford still staying away from the team as potential landing spots dry up.
May 9: After a two-week hissy fit, Bradford shows up for workouts.
May 17: Doug Pederson relays to media he told Bradford he was "the guy." Bradford insists he's happy.
June 3: Pederson announced that Bradford will be the Week 1 starter, barring injury. (Barring injury is a gaping qualification given Bradford's history.) Since it's before training camp, this feels like the Eaglestrying to make Bradford feel better about himself.
June 15: Carson Wentz locks himself in gas station bathroom in New Jersey.
July 17: Pederson says if the season started in July (it didn't) Wentz would be a healthy scratch (that's exactly what you want to hear about your future starting QB).
August 11: Bradford starts the first preseason game; completes his only pass attempt for 3 yards. Wentz takes a beating, goes 12-of-24 passing for 89 yards and an interception.
August 13: Wentz skips throwing at practice, but Pederson claims it was just soreness. Hours later, the team announced the rookie suffered a hairline fracture in his ribs. That redshirt year is looking more and more like a reality.
August 27: Bradford completes 17-of-27 passing for 162 yards, two TDs and an interception (which was blamed on Nelson Agholor) in the third preseason game, a.k.a. "the dress rehearsal."
August 29: Wentz is still in pain, NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reports, and misses the final three games of the preseason -- valuable reps for a quarterback in need of growing.
September 2: Heading into the season, Bradford is set to start, Daniel the veteran backup in case of injury, and Wentz will spend the season hold a clipboard, learning about Philly Cheesesteaks and correcting his footwork during practices.
September 3: #Breaking EAGLES TRADE BRADFORD TO VIKINGS. Days after Vikings quarterbackTeddy Bridgewater went down with a catastrophic injury, Roseman squeezes a first-round pick in 2017 and a fourth-rounder in 2018 from Minnesota for a semi-disgruntled quarterback (let's be honest, those feelings never 100 percent dissipated) that was likely gone next year.
Daniel likely will take over the starting gig to open the season, but jettisoning Bradford means we're far more likely to see Wentz on the field this season than we were a day ago. The Eagles might have wanted to give their rookie a full season to learn, but he'll probably see the field in 2016.
What a journey it's been for Howie. The twists and turns have been sharp and sudden for the returned GM. Perhaps the Eagles offense is slightly worse with Daniel than Bradford. Perhaps.
We haven't even played a meaningful game and the 2016 quarterback timeline in Philadelphia is insane. Who knows what will happen next week.
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Let me know what I'm missing here:
* Rams #1 pick in the 1st round of the 2010 draft
* Eagles trade Nick Foles & give a 2015 fourth-round pick, and a 2016 second-round pick (received a 5th round pick from the Rams too)
* Vikings give a 2017 first round pick and a 2018 4th round pick
So in total, teams have spent the following (in total) on Bradford:
2 firsts
1 second
2 fourths
Nick Foles
minus the fifth (not sure how to factor that in)
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Really? I bet that will turn out real well. I think the kids going to be the best quarterback in the draft for years to come, but he simply has no experience but for about 10 min. in the preseason. I can't believe that.
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And a whole lotta cash.
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I can't see that happening… You're not taking into consideration what division the Eagles play in. They still have a good defense, and defensive coordinator. I can see them winning 6 or 7 which would be anywhere from 10 to 15 draft slot.
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are you kidding? the Eagles will be lucky to win 4 to 5 games, you can make the argument that cleveland might win more than Philly
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haha really?! that would be awesome. hope this turns into a bigger train wreck than it already is!
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He was probably hoping that all he would do this season was carry a clipboard. Now he has to actually earn his paycheck by playing.
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apparently he is upset because wentz was named the starter.
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Behind that OL...
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With 4 SB losses it's resulted in some crazy trades for Minn trying to win a championship. Giving up a #1 for Bradford sounds crazy but if it led to a championship it would end up being a brilliant move. Minn is in a very tough spot right now they have a SB contending team and they just lost their starting QB for the season. That's usually a death sentence for the upcoming season regardless how good your team is but with the experience Bradford has paired with the talent the Vikings have this could work out for them. They have little chance with Shaun Hill but they have a real shot with Bradford.
He had some excellent games last season including against us in week 9. He shredded us completing almost 70% of his passes for 295 yards and tossed a 41 yard TD in OT on Philly's first possession. For any other team giving up a #1 for Bradford wouldn't make much sense but with the solid team the Vikings have and with Bridgewater's future unclear it makes sense for them. Every season is precious and when you're fortunate enough to have assembled a championship caliber team, the window doesn't always stay open very long and you need to take advantage of it while you have the parts in place.
If the Vikings 2016 season goes down the drain with Shawn Hill and whatever other QBs they have to use and Bridewater isn't the same player next year, the window may slam shut on Minn as they search for a QB. Peterson is going to decline eventually so if I were in Minn shoes with the team they have, I would probably give up a #1 for Bradford because they're not going to get far with the QB situation they have. If Washington could win a SB with Doug Williams, Minn could win one with Sam Bradford.
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Told same as @caplannfl: It's the Carson Wentz show in Philly when he's healthy. Source says Chase Daniel not happy.
Told same as @caplannfl: It's the Carson Wentz show in Philly when he's healthy. Source says Chase Daniel not happy.
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The guy was crazy enough to go sign there... what did he think was going to happen? They paid a metric **** ton of picks to get Wentz, it didn't take a great leap of logic to figure they were going to play the guy.
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Have you seen how bad Chase Daniels had been in the preseason?
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