Wade sure can't pick a staff... B. Stewart, B. Read, who else?

[igtmfo]

I like Wade a lot, but I was thinking tonight, man he can't pick a staff very well.

Brian Stewart flamed out. Bruce Read flamed out. That's two out of three "coordinators." Both were Wade's hires.

Wade didn't get to pick an offensive coordinator, Jerry did that for him. So he didn't fail 100 percent. (Could Jerry have kept Sparano as OC by giving him another huge raise ????, I can't remember the facts of how it played out ... .)

Defending Wade ... I'm sure it's a year-by-year thing based on need if you are hiring coaches... so you need a coach ... well this guy isn't under contract, or you look at whole staffs that got left go in the offseason .. "Hm, I worked with him in 1988, he was pretty good ... so I'll hire him ... "

Wade's D really improved when he took over the reins from Stewart.

But I'm thinking tonight ... it's bad enough with Jerry as GM picking players in the draft, coaches, trainers and scouts .. Despite Wade's proven ability and experience as a DC with x's and o's, is it possible he doesn't have such a great insight on talent, whether it be coaches or players?

I'm on my hands and knees ... please God, bring the Cowboys a real GM who gets it ...

 

[theogt]

And yet the one coordinator who had the biggest failure last year wasn't picked by him.

 

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

I like Wade a lot, but I was thinking tonight, man he can't pick a staff very well.

Brian Stewart flamed out. Bruce Read flamed out. That's two out of three "coordinators." Both were Wade's hires.

Wade didn't get to pick an offensive coordinator, Jerry did that for him. So he didn't fail 100 percent. (Could Jerry have kept Sparano as OC by giving him another huge raise ????, I can't remember the facts of how it played out ... .)

Defending Wade ... I'm sure it's a year-by-year thing based on need if you are hiring coaches... so you need a coach ... well this guy isn't under contract, or you look at whole staffs that got left go in the offseason .. "Hm, I worked with him in 1988, he was pretty good ... so I'll hire him ... "

Wade's D really improved when he took over the reins from Stewart.

But I'm thinking tonight ... it's bad enough with Jerry as GM picking players in the draft, coaches, trainers and scouts .. Despite Wade's proven ability and experience as a DC with x's and o's, is it possible he doesn't have such a great insight on talent, whether it be coaches or players?

I'm on my hands and knees ... please God, bring the Cowboys a real GM who gets it ...

dont hold ya breathe

we wont have a real gm until jerry steps down and that isnt going to be any time soon. hes not firing himself and neither is he going to bring in another gm who might suddenly bring us sucess thus making him look like he was incapable of doing said job.

were going to have to win jerrys way and hope things work out or dont win at all. thats the options

 

[dadymat]

And yet the one coordinator who had the biggest failure last year wasn't picked by him.

I know you arent saying that Stewart and Reid had a better season than Garrett...

 

[Beast_from_East]

I really dont know what other moves a GM could have made different from what Jerry has already done this offseason.

Jerry basically got rid of all the malcontents and troublemakers from TO, Tank, Roy, Pacman, ect....

We signed solid guys in free agency to decent contracts, like Igor and Brookings.

I really like the way Jerry has handled the offseason so far and I really cant think of what else another GM could have done different.

What more do you guys want???

 

[Monster Heel]

I know you arent saying that Stewart and Reid had a better season than Garrett...

Considering what he had to work with...

He was definitely worse than Stewart, but probably not as bad as Read.

 

[igtmfo]

.. Hm and I wonder .... how much say do coaches have in FA signings and draft picks nowadays ...

Jerry's absolute downfall was firing his awesome college scouting staff back in spring 1993, after their first Super Bowl win under the JJs. Why? Because Jerry could save money by letting his coaches do the scouting. Jerry always quotes his encounter with Sam Walton, who said: "Always understaff." (This was Jerry's response the other day to the question: why don't you hire a GM?) ... Boy highdee Jerry, it's done you a lot of good!

Now I wonder ... after this experiment failed with coaches giving the last word in scouting in the 90s and early 00's ... how much authority do coaches have in scouting nowadays? .... Considerable. .... From my understanding, when a pick is about to be made, the position coach has to come to the "head of the war room" and justify that pick, based on need/scheme but most of all, that coach's evaluation of that player .. when their evaluation, is based mostly on a bunch of scouts' evaluation of that player. So why not bring all the scouts into the room instead of the less-informed position coach, to really argue for that player?

Does this seem pretty idiocracy to any of you out there? ... So the RB coach, who two years ago was just trying to make a player pass his exams at UCLA or somewhere, has to step up and give closing arguments to Jerry, while Jerry is on the clock with a minute left in the third round, exactly why this RB is a third-round talent? And the regional and local scouts aren't anywhere to be seen in the draft room, who graded the guy?

To backtrack, if coaches may give the deciding word on who to draft, or who to sign as a FA ... has Wade (much less Jerry) hired the right coaches to make these arguments?

Let me reiterate: I pray that Jerry cedes his kingdom to an apostle who knows what he's doing. Maybe that's Stephen ...

 

[NextGenBoys]

And yet the one coordinator who had the biggest failure last year wasn't picked by him.

Yeah because the guy who got fired wasn't the biggest failure.

It was the guy who's offense I believe finished top 3 in yards per game with Romo at the helm, and also top 10 in points per game with Romo at the helm.

 

[yentl911]

Read was on the staff from Parcells tenure.....

 

[WG5516]

Read was on the staff from Parcells tenure.....

AHHHH I was coming in here to say that. ******.

 

[Alexander]

Read was on the staff from Parcells tenure.....

No, he wasn't.

 

[Alexander]

What more do you guys want???

A real head coach.

 

[dbair1967]

And yet the one coordinator who had the biggest failure last year wasn't picked by him.

Take away the 3 games Romo missed and the averages in total yds and pts would have been good for 4th overall and 9th overall. How is that a big failure?

And Romo was never right after the injury either. Then when you factor in all the guys either out or playing at far less than 100%, it isnt anywhere near the "failure" some of you continue to harp on.

 

[Alexander]

Take away the 3 games Romo missed and the averages in total yds and pts would have been good for 4th overall and 9th overall. How is that a big failure?

And Romo was never right after the injury either. Then when you factor in all the guys either out or playing at far less than 100%, it isnt anywhere near the "failure" some of you continue to harp on.

The biggest failure was the structure of the offense and the completely foolish personnel decision to keep Brad Johnson. It should not have been rocket science to figure out our vertical downfield passing game was a bad fit for Johnson and he should never have been the backup QB. Still, it cost us perhaps one game at most.

We lost seven games last year. Not all can be laid at the feet of Jason Garrett, even though it is fashionable around here to do so.

 

[jterrell]

Wade's coaching hires have never been sexy. That's been one of his biggest downfalls as HC. He was always taking over mid-stream for an Offensive coach and never had a really good staff in place. He could definitely learn from BP in that regard.

But in the Dallas stop Wade ended up with Stewart after his previous 2 DC choices went kaput. He also tried to get Dan Reeves in here as an offensive staff member but Jerry couldn't get that deal done.

Wade is a nice guy and knows a ton of coaches but his staffs have undoubtedly sucked. Coaches love working for and with the guy as Sparano mentioned so not sure why he has had such a hard time building a decent staff.

I will say this ST coach and his attempted Reeves hire to me were excellent coaching moves.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Parcells left pretty late in the game when most of the best assistant coaches had already been hired somewhere else.

Wade needed someone who knew his system and could help relay it to the players. Stewart turned out to be a miss, but you can the reasoning in hiring him. But even then, he wasn't Wade's first choice.

Read is a different case IMO. It seemed like they had to beat the bushes for any kind of special teams coach with any experience, and he was all they could come up with. I'm not sure they ever even thought he was that good a coach. Decamillis will be a huge upgrade over him.

I think most people would agree that Parcells is good at picking coaches, and even he had to fire the first OL coach and offensive coordinator he hired here. It happens.

 

[Alexander]

Read is a different case IMO. It seemed like they had to beat the bushes for any kind of special teams coach with any experience, and he was all they could come up with. I'm not sure they ever even thought he was that good a coach. Decamillis will be a huge upgrade over him.

Read had direct ties to Mike Riley at Oregon State, who coincidentally was a Jason Garrett mentor. I don't see anything that indicated he had a thing to do with Wade Phillips. Part of the problem we had was that Phillips has always undervalued special teams. We had a quality coach here in DeHaven, but since there was the issue from the Music City Miracle, he wasn't retained.

Let us not all forget though that this is not all Phillips' staff. Houck was not his choice. It was Garrett's. Phillips wanted Solari and was overruled by our GM. That is part of the problem when you have a powerless head coach who really isn't fully in charge.

 

[theogt]

Take away the 3 games Romo missed and the averages in total yds and pts would have been good for 4th overall and 9th overall. How is that a big failure?

And Romo was never right after the injury either. Then when you factor in all the guys either out or playing at far less than 100%, it isnt anywhere near the "failure" some of you continue to harp on.

And the reason Romo missed 3 games (and suffered multiple injuries) was he was getting the **** kicked out of him constantly because our O-line was crap. That lays directly on Garrett's shoulders.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Let us not all forget though that this is not all Phillips' staff. Houck was not his choice. It was Garrett's. Phillips wanted Solari and was overruled by our GM. That is part of the problem when you have a powerless head coach who really isn't fully in charge.

I keep reading that, but it's not like he didn't have knowledge of Houck before bringing him on. They both worked together in San Diego, so the connection isn't all Garrett or Phillips.

 

[Alexander]

I keep reading that, but it's not like he didn't have knowledge of Houck before bringing him on. They both worked together in San Diego, so the connection isn't all Garrett or Phillips.

The simple fact of the matter is Houck wasn't his first choice. A head coach should always be allowed to build his staff how he chooses.