Washington name change?

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There is a lot of talk on extremeskins about the skins getting their name changed. You always knew it was gonna comeup, with all the pansy liberals we got.
 

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RW31 said:
There is a lot of talk on extremeskins about the skins getting their name changed. You always knew it was gonna comeup, with all the pansy liberals we got.


Agree, this is an old argument they have....they should leave the name alone...

David
 

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RW31 said:
There is a lot of talk on extremeskins about the skins getting their name changed. You always knew it was gonna comeup, with all the pansy liberals we got.
pansy liberals?

I'm just gonna make one comment on this because I don't want to get in a big race thing.

But speaking as a black man... I know I'd be more than offended if there was a sports team out there with the name of "Alabama Black Faces".
 

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cowheel said:
pansy liberals?

I'm just gonna make one comment on this because I don't want to get in a big race thing.

But speaking as a black man... I know I'd be more than offended if there was a sports team out there with the name of "Alabama Black Faces".


Or New York N******. That slur is a lil more applicable. Liberal or not some stuff is just wrong regardless of how "used to it" you are...
 

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pansy liberals? Their name is a derogatory racial slur. It's like calling them the washington crackers or washington darkies. It should be changed... but I doubt it will.
 

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dbair1967 said:
Agree, this is an old argument they have....they should leave the name alone...

David

Exactly... George Preston Marshall changed the name in 1932 to the Boston Commanders in honor of the team's head coach, William "Lone
Star" Dietz, who was an American Indian...

Someone is again offended by something taken out of context...

Cowboys vs. Senators just won't have the same effect...
 

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cowheel said:
pansy liberals?

I'm just gonna make one comment on this because I don't want to get in a big race thing.

But speaking as a black man... I know I'd be more than offended if there was a sports team out there with the name of "Alabama Black Faces".
but what does Commanders mean?

than u have activist complaining about the Cowboys name, save the whale, bears, eagles, Chiefs. Why not just be Dallas with no nicknames :mad:

Just leave it alone
 

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cowheel said:
pansy liberals?

I'm just gonna make one comment on this because I don't want to get in a big race thing.

But speaking as a black man... I know I'd be more than offended if there was a sports team out there with the name of "Alabama Black Faces".
The thing is, it isn't even native americans making the argument.
 

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trickblue said:
Exactly... George Preston Marshall changed the name in 1932 to the Boston Commanders in honor of the team's head coach, William "Lone
Star" Dietz, who was an American Indian...

In 1932 they were the Boston Braves and shared a stadium with the city's baseball team of the same name.... In 1933 they became the Boston Commanders when they relocated to Fenway Park. William "Lone Star" Dietz did become their head coach, but I somehow doubt the name change was in his honor, as it was his first year, and was changed from meaning a native american warrior to offensive slang for native american.
 

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natedawg said:
In 1932 they were the Boston Braves and shared a stadium with the city's baseball team of the same name.... In 1933 they became the Boston Commanders when they relocated to Fenway Park. William "Lone Star" Dietz did become their head coach, but I somehow doubt the name change was in his honor, as it was his first year, and was changed from meaning a native american warrior to offensive slang for native american.

Actually he DID name it for Lone Star Ditz... check the history...
 

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trickblue said:
Exactly... George Preston Marshall changed the name in 1932 to the Boston Commanders in honor of the team's head coach, William "Lone
Star" Dietz, who was an American Indian...

Someone is again offended by something taken out of context...

Cowboys vs. Senators just won't have the same effect...
So if the Mavs changed their name to the Dallas wetbacks in HONOR of former Mav Najera that would make it alright?

MY high school was called the Apaches and changed their name to some other crap years after I left. I was agianst that because Apache is a tribe. Commander is a slur.

What is deemed offensive does change over time.
 

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The thing is, it isn't even native americans making the argument.
YES, it is.

Attend a Commander game at Texas stadium some time.

The game is picketed by American Indians every year.
 

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YES, it is.

Attend a Commander game at Texas stadium some time.

The game is picketed by American Indians every year.


Indians where I live would be upset if they changed the name.

Everybody has an opinion...
 

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jterrell said:
So if the Mavs changed their name to the Dallas wetbacks in HONOR of former Mav Najera that would make it alright?

MY high school was called the Apaches and changed their name to some other crap years after I left. I was agianst that because Apache is a tribe. Commander is a slur.

What is deemed offensive does change over time.

Not the same thing... my point is that it wasn't named to be a slur...

Quite frankly if you take most names in sports you could make the case for someone being offended...
 

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Just to add to this
Calling native americans "Indians" is an insult also
Columbus at least had an excuse in that he just honestly did not know where he was. You do not
 

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You know what, your right. Commanders just might be offensive to someone. We are a country completely wrapped up in political correctness and making sure we don’t offend anyone. But be careful, football is violet, and violence is offensive to a lot more people than the word “Commander”, so lets just do away with football. Sound crazy? Don’t be so sure.
 

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RW31 said:
The thing is, it isn't even native americans making the argument.


That isn't true. Vine Deloria is one of the most known scholarly Native American authors. He devotes a chapter to it in God is Red. A friend of mine, born in DC is a Native American. He won't stop talking about how offensive he finds the name.

It is a shame when Americans who speak up for the dignity of a smaller group of Americans are branded "pansy liberals". Sounds more like integrity than weakness to me. It would be much easier for these folks to avoid the conflict and do something self-interested with their time. But that wouldn't be the American thing to do.
 

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RedLine said:
You know what, your right. Commanders just might be offensive to someone. We are a country completely wrapped up in political correctness and making sure we don’t offend anyone. But be careful, football is violet, and violence is offensive to a lot more people than the word “Commander”, so lets just do away with football. Sound crazy? Don’t be so sure.

we'll name your team the Red Herrings.
 

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RedLine said:
You know what, your right. Commanders just might be offensive to someone. We are a country completely wrapped up in political correctness and making sure we don’t offend anyone. But be careful, football is violet, and violence is offensive to a lot more people than the word “Commander”, so lets just do away with football. Sound crazy? Don’t be so sure.

PC is BS.

Everyone needs to get over it.
 
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