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We have a hard time getting to the SB because of draft position

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Verdict, Jan 14, 2020.

  1. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    that’s pretty funny right there
     
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  2. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    style of management a weakness?

    can’t be

    Jerry tells everybody it is a strength

    :D
     
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  3. jsb357

    jsb357 Well-Known Member

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  4. buybuydandavis

    buybuydandavis Well-Known Member

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    Garrett was always very determined to win those end of the season meaningless games. Improves his resume.
     
  5. CowboyRoy

    CowboyRoy Well-Known Member

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    Well when they got a top 5 pick, they didnt go out and draft a RB. They were smart enough to take the top defensive player on the board.
     
  6. CowboyRoy

    CowboyRoy Well-Known Member

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    LOL........Ok buddy. Whatever you say.
     
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  7. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    The NFCE is every bit as "bad" as the AFCE. If the Patriots were a bumbling 8-8 or 9-7 team like Dallas and Philly over the past decade, the two division would likely be identical.
     
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  8. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Moderator

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    Never stopped the Patriots.
     
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  9. Cowboysheelsreds053

    Cowboysheelsreds053 Well-Known Member

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    We dropped 7 spots, would have been 10th. Red did this too us more often than not with another meaningless win. He can't even loss right.
     
  10. atlantacowboy

    atlantacowboy Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm.........hasn't hampered the Patriots. Drafting near the top every year is no guarantee of success. Just ask Cleveland.

    Its worked in SF b/c they have great coaches and John Lynch might be the best GM in the NFL.
     
  11. Verdict

    Verdict Well-Known Member

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    No. It’s not even close.
     
  12. Aven8

    Aven8 Well-Known Member

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    Why does everyone have to keep kicking JG while he’s down?? ;)
     
  13. Big_D

    Big_D Well-Known Member

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    Too many gambles. Stop with the injured players and those who drop for off the field issues. Trading that first rounder for a year and a half of service? It's not that difficult to make smarter decisions. Yet they elude this team. Stay put and take the best available.
     
  14. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    well there’s your misguided belief and then there’s how much each had won over the past decade.
     
  15. EJK24

    EJK24 Well-Known Member

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    I think your part about constantly drafting middle of the pack makes sense in terms of not getting those high picks with blue chip players almost guaranteed to fall into your lap.

    The other part about the skins though? Listen no one wants to fall down in the draft, me included, but what was the option there? Losing because we dont want the skins drafting a better player would never ever happen. Teams tanking for their own good pick is one thing but trying to lose so someone else doesnt pick a better player? How do you play the game with the message that hey we gotta lose so the skins dont get too good of a player? Ideally they never get great players but the draft isn't always guaranteed. When they got RG3 I think alot of people said we are gonna be dealing with a nightmare for a long time to come. Didnt exactly work out that way.
     
  16. Verdict

    Verdict Well-Known Member

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    We couldn’t throw the game VS the skins because we had no way of knowing the Eagles wouldn’t lose. But I get your point.

    I am just saying that game cost us several draft spots which will invariably change our draft considerably.

    There have been times when we won a meaningless game. That’s not very strategically smart.

    Draft position matters, if you know what to do with it. There is a reason bad teams get to draft first. Because it is an advantage. If a team fails to take advantage of that, then it’s really on them.
     
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  17. Verdict

    Verdict Well-Known Member

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    The AFC has been consistently worse than the NFC for years on average. The AFC East has been perennially bad.
     
  18. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    Tell me more, but this time inject more of your opinion.
     
  19. Buzzbait

    Buzzbait Well-Known Member

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    Eagles - Andy Reid
    In 2011 and 2012, went 8-8 and 4-12 respectively, and Reid was fired.

    Chiefs - Andy Reid
    In 2013...... 11-5
    In 2014...… 9-7
    In 2015...….11-5
    In 2016...….12-4
    In 2017...….10-6
    In 2018...…..12-4
    In 2019...…..12-4

    In 2012 the Eagles identified Reid as the problem. But the Eagle's lack of confidence in Reid didn't hamper Reid's ability to produce a winner at KC, as the numbers above show.

    McCarthy has proven he can win both regular and post season, including a Super Bowl, plus years of experience, and he produced a lot better record at GB than Garrett did here. It shouldn't be too tough to beat Garrett's HC record.
    There's no reason not to give McCarthy a fair chance.
    I'm certainly not going to count the guy out before he even gets started.
     
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  20. Cowboysheelsreds053

    Cowboysheelsreds053 Well-Known Member

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    The Pats are not a good example, when you have the best coach ever and then the GOAT at QB and then the weakest division for years, there you go. Most teams don't have that.
     

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