We need to fix our short yardage offense

Biggems

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before the postseason. it will be our undoing, if we do not.

on a positive note, our opponent next week is just as pitiful as us on 3rd or 4th and 1 conversions.
 

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i think its barber more than anything... to much hesitation and not enough burst
 

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yeah, & we had better do it fast; good grief...

call a play-action every once in awhile...

run to a different side every once in awhile...

put choice in every once in awhile...

string garrett up every once in awhile; oops...scratch that last one.
 

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its time to trade away MBIII - maybe BParcells will give us a third rounder for him

then draft some one that can get a yard
 

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thssanders;3176932 said:
i think its barber more than anything... to much hesitation and not enough burst


it's garrett and wade for keeping Barber in there. use felix, anderson, choice, or a QB sneak. how about playaction to a TE or WR. how about a screen.

dont run the same play over and over if it continues to fail....
 

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well i don't blame the playcalling in this one. We came out with the most basic gameplan this week, which hopefully we've got a couple wrinkles for the next two weeks.

You shouldn't have to do any special calls for a few inches though. Is there any doubt felix runs with more power than barber? He should not be the goalline and short yardage back
 

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Biggems;3176952 said:
it's garrett and wade for keeping Barber in there. use felix, anderson, choice, or a QB sneak. how about playaction to a TE or WR. how about a screen.

dont run the same play over and over if it continues to fail....

Serious question: have we run a single QB sneak this season??
 

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UnoDallas;3176944 said:
its time to trade away MBIII - maybe BParcells will give us a third rounder for him

then draft some one that can get a yard


there is this kid from Stanford that comes to mind
 

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Thatkidbob;3176985 said:
Serious question: have we run a single QB sneak this season??

Don't recall one; pretty sad you can't do one only needing an inch.

Barber looks a step slow.
 

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I bet felix gets a lot more carries in the playoffs. Kinda like what we did a couple years back with barber. Barber didn't start all year except the game julius was hurt, but then at the last minute we find out he's starting against the giants in the playoffs.

Maybe we are trying to catch the eagles by surprise in the playoffs. They would have to play us differently with felix getting the majority of the snaps.

I hope this is what's going to happen. Everyone sees that barber is hurting us out there. If we all see it the coaches HAVE to see it. We shall see though.
 

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Its called running QB sneaks.

None of the other backs is going to do anything different when the defense knows exactly what is coming.
 

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thssanders;3176932 said:
i think its barber more than anything... to much hesitation and not enough burst

Yep, that's what I think.

Barber and Roy are helping to hold this offense back.

Choice needs to be the short-yardage guy.
 

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Remember the halfback dive? You'd take the ball and launch across the line? MB3 has the lift of a residual boulder and simply runs into the pile. We need someone to hit the line quick, and if it is stopped up, take flight over the pile to get that yard. MB3 has NOTHING.
 

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thssanders;3177026 said:
I bet felix gets a lot more carries in the playoffs. Kinda like what we did a couple years back with barber. Barber didn't start all year except the game julius was hurt, but then at the last minute we find out he's starting against the giants in the playoffs.

Maybe we are trying to catch the eagles by surprise in the playoffs. They would have to play us differently with felix getting the majority of the snaps.

I hope this is what's going to happen. Everyone sees that barber is hurting us out there. If we all see it the coaches HAVE to see it. We shall see though.
i used to believe that ivy-league garrett was setting people up for the playoffs...but that never really happened. i think maybe he catches up on his sleep for the playoffs...
 

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thssanders;3176983 said:
well i don't blame the playcalling in this one. We came out with the most basic gameplan this week, which hopefully we've got a couple wrinkles for the next two weeks.

You shouldn't have to do any special calls for a few inches though. Is there any doubt felix runs with more power than barber? He should not be the goalline and short yardage back

yes, felix has much better leg drive than barber does and it's not even close. They just don't let him try.

It's kind of like that fresh new red porsche that really wants to go fast but the owner is afraid to get it scratched.
 

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Cochese;3177036 said:
Its called running QB sneaks.

None of the other backs is going to do anything different when the defense knows exactly what is coming.

I really can't remember the last time we ran a sneak.
 

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Chief;3177052 said:
Yep, that's what I think.

Barber and Roy are helping to hold this offense back.

Choice needs to be the short-yardage guy.

i agree with all 3 points.

Flo is also a problem but that will have to wait until next year.
 

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Biggems;3176920 said:
before the postseason. it will be our undoing, if we do not.

on a positive note, our opponent next week is just as pitiful as us on 3rd or 4th and 1 conversions.

Not sure what the cure is. The guys just get no push in short yardage plays.

Probably the best fix if they want to run in short yardage is to spread the field and run from the shotgun. That seems to be the play that works best because the defense cant stack 8 or 9 guys so close together. The other answer is just quit running it.
 

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Eskimo;3177087 said:
I really can't remember the last time we ran a sneak.


Its not in the playbook, something like a QB sneak isnt complex enough for Ivy League to consider.
 
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