We should make a splash with Megatron this offseason

[jterrell]

The team has the money, we are actually in excellent cap shape...but I doubt we invest on a receiver when we have 3, maybe 4 OL due for contracts within the next two years.

http://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/ for your data validation purposes.

 

[robjay04]

I can read and comprehend, how about you??

I followed the whole situation closely. Of course the general managers aren't going to say "Oh yeah we are shopping AP but only for the right price" That would be silly.

I know Peterson's agent is quoted saying he will never play for the Vikings again and AP voiced his displeasure with how the organization the entire city treated him versus how Texas treated him.

I also know that none of us really have any idea what was going on in that organization. I do believe Peterson wanted a fresh start in Texas and I do believe the asking price was just too high and eventually AP caved. Acting like you are a Viking's insider because of some quotes you have heard over the same media that you say was fed stories doesn't seem very sensible? Getting irate with fans for thinking Jerry should've made an offer or "sold the farm" to get him isn't sensible either.

For the record, we should've drafted a running back...not traded the farm for AP. Regardless, we have a running back putting up top 5 stats now with the worst passing game in the NFL so Peterson probably wouldn't of meant many more wins assuming we still lose Romo.

 

[Sydla]

Tom Brady probably helps, no? They have had several different offensive coordinators and schemes.

Might also have something to do with the fact they have a real head coach there.

 

[Bleu Star]

For the record, we should've drafted a running back...

This.... epic fail on our part.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I followed the whole situation closely. Of course the general managers aren't going to say "Oh yeah we are shopping AP but only for the right price" That would be silly.

I know Peterson's agent is quoted saying he will never play for the Vikings again and AP voiced his displeasure with how the organization the entire city treated him versus how Texas treated him.

I also know that none of us really have any idea what was going on in that organization. I do believe Peterson wanted a fresh start in Texas and I do believe the asking price was just too high and eventually AP caved. Acting like you are a Viking's insider because of some quotes you have heard over the same media that you say was fed stories doesn't seem very sensible? Getting irate with fans for thinking Jerry should've made an offer or "sold the farm" to get him isn't sensible either.

For the record, we should've drafted a running back...not traded the farm for AP. Regardless, we have a running back putting up top 5 stats now with the worst passing game in the NFL so Peterson probably wouldn't of meant many more wins assuming we still lose Romo.

Good post.

I would STILL rather try and get AP than megaton.

Receivers that were not Cowboys and were never meant to be Cowboys....

Joey Galloway
Roy Williams

Don't add megaton to that list.

 

[jterrell]

This.... epic fail on our part.

The problem with that line of thought is the rookie RBs haven't done much. Only 3 are in the top 25.
Only one has outrushed McFadden and he was taken LONG before we drafted.
My pet cat was Yeldon (a DMC type) and I'd love to have him now but he has just over 4 ypc and there were more misses at RB than hits.

Looks like that RB class was woefully overrated.

 

[robjay04]

No, we are not. We are somewhere around 25th in available cap space entering the off-season. If we want to keep Hardy we are basically even.
We are not hurting but there are ~10 teams with 40m+ to spend.

And we can flip a couple switches, cut a player and be over 40M.

First year cap hit would be about 7 million or less for a huge contract?

I don't think we should spend that kind of money when we just signed Dez to a huge extension but....we could do it if we wanted and be okay. Nothing would surprise me with Jerry Jones coming off a season like this with an aging franchise QB.

I would rather sign 2-3 free agents with that 50 million including Lamar Miller.

 

[Risen Star]

No offense, but your friend is no different from the soothsayers here that stated it was in play. Nothing from the Vikings ever suggested that it was realistic.

Maybe you missed the part that his friend was a huge Vikings fan.

 

[CowboyRoy]

No GM can justify his 24 million dollar cap hit and he's likely to get cut and test the market.

He has a rapport with Linehan, who knows how to use him, and might pick that over learning a new offense at this point in his career.

To me, that would be my number one move this offseason. If Romo and Witten only have 2 or 3 years then we should go for it. I don't think he'll get Dez money at this point in his career (still only 30 by the start of next season) and we could carve a niche for him like the Cardinals have with Fitzgerald. A number 2 WR who does a lot of pseudo TE duties on a lot of downs because you know the front office cannot justify the resources to use a high draft pick on finding Witten's replacement yet and that 2 TE thing really will never jump off for us.

Picture a situation where the base offense is a 3 WR set with Dez and Megatron on the boundary and Bease doing work in the middle. And then on some downs, you can have CJ in the slot and a speedy WR on the outside stretching the defense down the field.

He and Dunbar being back should be enough explosiveness to get our offense back on track and that doesn't count any infusion of talent we would have through the draft.

We have a great offensive line. A healthy Romo, Dez and Megatron could have us competing with Carolina and Arizona.

Yah, I cant agree with that one. If only for what I perceive to be the cost. I would continue to focus on defense and then the run game and a QB on offense. You can get all the receivers we want but if there is no one to get them the ball, we see what happens to all pro receivers.

 

[robjay04]

The problem with that line of thought is the rookie RBs haven't done much. Only 3 are in the top 25.
Only one has outrushed McFadden and he was taken LONG before we drafted.
My pet cat was Yeldon (a DMC type) and I'd love to have him now but he has just over 4 ypc and there were more misses at RB than hits.

Looks like that RB class was woefully overrated.

Duke Williams, David Johnson, Matt Jones, Thomas Rawls, Jeremy Langford and TJ Yeldon all showed me enough this season to believe they could have made this team better. Just because they are in a timeshare or didn't start all games doesn't mean we didn't drop the ball.

 

[Bleu Star]

The problem with that line of thought is the rookie RBs haven't done much. Only 3 are in the top 25.
Only one has outrushed McFadden and he was taken LONG before we drafted.
My pet cat was Yeldon (a DMC type) and I'd love to have him now but he has just over 4 ypc and there were more misses at RB than hits.

Looks like that RB class was woefully overrated.

I wanted Gurley and he is a major keeper as shown this year. I realize it would have taken an act of epic proportion to get him but we rarely even try. That bothers me.

 

[Bleu Star]

Duke Williams, David Johnson, Matt Jones, Thomas Rawls, Jeremy Langford and TJ Yeldon all showed me enough this season to believe they could have made this team better. Just because they are in a timeshare or didn't start all games doesn't mean we didn't drop the ball.

Great perspective.

 

[TX Cowboy]

Megatron would be a huge feather in the cap of the offense but we'd still have a mega problem at QB
Romo is on last legs!!! if that offensive line doesn't tighten up, get some major relief at the running
back position..Romo is right back to where he was this season so while I like the train of thought
let's focus more on getting Romo's replacement and backup in place before start focusing on the
team around him

 

[jterrell]

And we can flip a couple switches, cut a player and be over 40M.

First year cap hit would be about 7 million or less for a huge contract?

I don't think we should spend that kind of money when we just signed Dez to a huge extension but....we could do it if we wanted and be okay. Nothing would surprise me with Jerry Jones coming off a season like this with an aging franchise QB.

I would rather sign 2-3 free agents with that 50 million including Lamar Miller.

No, we can't. Not without being self-destructive and stupid.
We can get to 25m but it is largely pointless and that is before resigning anyone which means we won't ever really have 25m in space at one time.
The cap is handled in real-time.

If you go to a poker game with 100 bucks and find out everyone else brought 1k you either play out the 100 for fun or go home. You don't take out a 500.00 loan.

Fans on here are terrible financial people. I shutter to see the average persons monthly budget. Why pay cash now when we can finance!!!

 

[jterrell]

Duke Williams, David Johnson, Matt Jones, Thomas Rawls, Jeremy Langford and TJ Yeldon all showed me enough this season to believe they could have made this team better. Just because they are in a timeshare or didn't start all games doesn't mean we didn't drop the ball.

We could have drafted a thousand players that would have made us better. Do they make us better than what e actually drafted??
In most cases no. That list is fairly terrible TBH. Rawls is the one guy who really showed something.
It isn't like those timeshare guys would have been starting here.

 

[EPL0c0]

The Top 5 WRs that changed teams through free agency (per Spotrac) over the last 5 years.

2015: Jeremy Maclin, Torrey Smith, Andre Johnson, Dwayne Harris, Eddie Royal
2014: Eric Decker, Golden Tate, Desean Jackson, Andre Roberts, Emmanual Sanders
2013: Mike Wallace, Greg Jennings, Danny Amendola, Wes Welker, Brandon Gibson
2012: Vincent Jackson, Pierre Garcon, Laurant Robinson, Robert Meachem, Eddie Royal
2011: Santonio Holmes, Sidney Rice, Steve Breaston, Brad Smith, Sam Hurd

 

[coach steele]

Do

Might also have something to do with the fact they have a real head coach there.

is he an offense guru. No doubt he is a HOF coach. We were 12-4 last year with this staff and was expected to finish worst than 8-8

 

[robjay04]

No, we can't. Not without being self-destructive and stupid.
We can get to 25m but it is largely pointless and that is before resigning anyone which means we won't ever really have 25m in space at one time.
The cap is handled in real-time.

If you go to a poker game with 100 bucks and find out everyone else brought 1k you either play out the 100 for fun or go home. You don't take out a 500.00 loan.

Fans on here are terrible financial people. I shutter to see the average persons monthly budget. Why pay cash now when we can finance!!!

The team has the room to do whatever they chose to do. If they wish to resign Martin, Frederick and Collins...they better be careful. It is not really debatable they can't sign Megatron if they wanted to. The cap hit would not be huge the next season.

As I said, I don't think it makes financial sense to allocate that many dollars at one position. I agree with you but you are acting like it is not even possible and shouldn't be discussed.

 

[robjay04]

We could have drafted a thousand players that would have made us better. Do they make us better than what e actually drafted??
In most cases no. That list is fairly terrible TBH. Rawls is the one guy who really showed something.
It isn't like those timeshare guys would have been starting here.

Terrible?

You must not watch a lot of football if you think Jeremy Langford and David Johnson are terrible.

 

[superonyx]

Can you not grasp the basic concept of a player and his agent trying to get his contract re-worked to get more upfront guaranteed money....How clear was that, only mentioned in the media a dozen times, and that is exactly what happened, got his contract re-worked, yet koolaid Cowboy fans thought the viking were going to trade AP instead.....try to keep up, it isn't that difficult to follow, but maybe it is to you...

Haha.... I'm not sure what you are talking about. You speak in absolutes yet you attack another poster for doing the same.

What am I supposed to be keeping up with? Idiot logic?

I'm not even the poster you were debating Peterson with. Can you try to keep up with which person you are replying to? Is this that hard for you?

This thread isn't even about Peterson.

(See how much fun it is too reply to someone in the same style they use reply to others)

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