We should make a splash with Megatron this offseason

[jterrell]

Great perspective.

Dallas paid 1.1 million dollars for the league's 5th highest rusher.
Passing on a RB as one of the few things Dallas got right last off-season.

Better uses for the draft pick: RB, Back up or even 3rd QB, Safety, WR x3, TE who can catch, CB, LB, DT, DE.
Basically the only thing we really needed less than a RB was Kicker and OL.

 

[jterrell]

good lord man, just

Terrible?

You must not watch a lot of football if you think Jeremy Langford and David Johnson are terrible.

Please stop posting dumb stuff.
Langford who I saw plenty at MSU, is averaging 3.7 yards per carry.
David Johnson may have something but his 3 fumbles in limited carries and inability to win the job before injuries versus spare comp hardly make him a stud.

One rookie is better than McFadden. We never had a remote shot at that guy.
Our running game was so far and away the best asset on offense it isn't even worth discussing in terms of "better".

Most rookies can run, they can't block and all the little nuances coaching staffs demand.
That's why only 3 were in the top 25 of rushers and one of those replaced an injured guy.

 

[robjay04]

good lord man, just


Please stop posting dumb stuff.
Langford who I saw plenty at MSU, is averaging 3.7 yards per carry.
David Johnson may have something but his 3 fumbles in limited carries and inability to win the job before injuries versus spare comp hardly make him a stud.

One rookie is better than McFadden. We never had a remote shot at that guy.
Our running game was so far and away the best asset on offense it isn't even worth discussing in terms of "better".

Most rookies can run, they can't block and all the little nuances coaching staffs demand.
That's why only 3 were in the top 25 of rushers and one of those replaced an injured guy.

Man...it is crazy you are even making this argument. This is the last I will comment on this.

First of all, I agree we did a good job passing on Murray and all of the free agent backs for that matter but when you consider...we have signed several backs throughout the season either due to injuries, ineffectiveness or suspensions should say the front office failed in not picking up a running back to give this team a young player with some upside.

For how good McFadden has been, his better days are behind him. Out of this past draft, we have ONE draft pick that has made an impact(Jones). Gregory could be good but even he is a question mark right now. We could have spent ONE pick on one of the running backs I listed and we would've been a better team with more flexibility going into this offseason.

Duke Johnson has proved to be a good pass catcher in a bad offense, David Johnson/Jeremy Langford have all of the makings of being top 10 backs next season when they get more opportunities and they have performed when they have been called upon. TJ Yeldon has had a stellar season and has been a workhorse. Matt Jones has been stellar as well when he has got the opportunities, he is just sharing the load with a veteran...he is a break out candidate for next season. ONE of these players could have been a better fit and had more of an impact than the half dozen rookies we have that are either inactive or playing special teams.

 

[jazzcat22]

why not, we should've sold the farm for Peterson and squandered that opportunity. Megatron can do to our passing game what Peterson would've done to our running game.

shouldn't let this opportunity pass us up.. i'm with you

And then what, people would whine we have a huge contract with an aging RB, that did not make a difference after Romo and Dez were injured. And we are still are 4-11, and that we nave no 1st or 2nd round draft picks to get a QB of the future?
If McFadden started all year, instead of the wasted Randle experiment, DMC wouldn't be all that far behind AP in rushing yards. And for a heck of a lot less money, as well as keeping our draft picks.

And AP was NEVER an option, he wasn't going to be released, and he wasn't going to be traded.

And no to CJ....just as Minnesota will never ever deal with us involving RB's again, Jerry learned his lesson, he will never deal with Detroit for WR's again...

 

[jterrell]

Man...it is crazy you are even making this argument. This is the last I will comment on this.

First of all, I agree we did a good job passing on Murray and all of the free agent backs for that matter but when you consider...we have signed several backs throughout the season either due to injuries, ineffectiveness or suspensions should say the front office failed in not picking up a running back to give this team a young player with some upside.

For how good McFadden has been, his better days are behind him. Out of this past draft, we have ONE draft pick that has made an impact(Jones). Gregory could be good but even he is a question mark right now. We could have spent ONE pick on one of the running backs I listed and we would've been a better team with more flexibility going into this offseason.

Duke Johnson has proved to be a good pass catcher in a bad offense, David Johnson/Jeremy Langford have all of the makings of being top 10 backs next season when they get more opportunities and they have performed when they have been called upon. TJ Yeldon has had a stellar season and has been a workhorse. Matt Jones has been stellar as well when he has got the opportunities, he is just sharing the load with a veteran...he is a break out candidate for next season. ONE of these players could have been a better fit and had more of an impact than the half dozen rookies we have that are either inactive or playing special teams.

First, thank you for the intelligent post; and not some question over my football watching acumen.

Let me explain as best I can.
Dallas was 9th in rushing yards. That is good but not great... except they were 29th in passing yards. So they were 9th with ZERO pass threat. That is VERY impressive.

McFadden is here next year, cheap and with zero draft pick cost. He is the 5th highest rusher in the league. Any thoughts he is "washed" have been most certainly disproven.

Dallas had Randle here and Randle had running talent aplenty also at the right cost. He clearly has a 2 cent brain and is now gone so the situation changes but last year Dallas had no real desperate reason to be RB shopping unless they could get Gurley.

At the end of the day RB is just not that big a deal for this team right now. It is the rare position in the game with more legit options than there are jobs and running in Dallas is easier than most places with this OL/TE group.

If a value pick is there so be it but the Cowboys have holes all over that require more immediate concern.

After Gurley there isn't a single back I'd want more than Randy Gregory. Even is he is just a 2 down rush type end he has more value than any of those remaining RB.
We took Chaz Green in 3 and who knows with him. We need him to hit because RT is wide open but who knows how an injured guy whose done nothing makes out. Still as of today would I rather have Chaz Green, unknown RT or David Johnson? Give me Green. I always feel I can go go find a RB with little to no effort. I have McFadden here and can re-sign Dunbar as my 3rd down back. I can cycle through low cost options for that 3rd RB role but it may well be be Turpin who runs very hard and has some size.

I just think you are far overrating the importance of the RB depth chart and especially the importance of having a 2nd or 3rd tier RB in place as a back up behind DMC.

We have an entire draft and free agency before it matters again and if we do nothing but resign Dunbar we still have a top 10 RB group in 2016.

 

[Fredd]

And then what, people would whine we have a huge contract with an aging RB, that did not make a difference after Romo and Dez were injured. And we are still are 4-11, and that we nave no 1st or 2nd round draft picks to get a QB of the future?
If McFadden started all year, instead of the wasted Randle experiment, DMC wouldn't be all that far behind AP in rushing yards. And for a heck of a lot less money, as well as keeping our draft picks.

And AP was NEVER an option, he wasn't going to be released, and he wasn't going to be traded.

And no to CJ....just as Minnesota will never ever deal with us involving RB's again, Jerry learned his lesson, he will never deal with Detroit for WR's again...

I agreed with your entire post until the Jerry part at the end....CJ would be the shiny penny for JJ

 

[jterrell]

And then what, people would whine we have a huge contract with an aging RB, that did not make a difference after Romo and Dez were injured. And we are still are 4-11, and that we nave no 1st or 2nd round draft picks to get a QB of the future?
If McFadden started all year, instead of the wasted Randle experiment, DMC wouldn't be all that far behind AP in rushing yards. And for a heck of a lot less money, as well as keeping our draft picks.

And AP was NEVER an option, he wasn't going to be released, and he wasn't going to be traded.

And no to CJ....just as Minnesota will never ever deal with us involving RB's again, Jerry learned his lesson, he will never deal with Detroit for WR's again...

Basically this.
Dallas wasn't going to spit in Peterson's face and pretend he wasn't good but they did not have cap space nor were they trading high picks for him.
If Minny would have caved to his demands AND he would have played a season or two cheap he might have gotten 2k yards here. But we weren't ever a real factor.

 

[jazzcat22]

I agreed with your entire post until the Jerry part at the end....CJ would be the shiny penny for JJ

Yeah, after I posted that, I thought...well, Jerry usually doesn't learn, but Stephen would step in this time and steal his dad's penny and buy him a JWB gumball.

 

[superonyx]

The Top 5 WRs that changed teams through free agency (per Spotrac) over the last 5 years.

2015: Jeremy Maclin, Torrey Smith, Andre Johnson, Dwayne Harris, Eddie Royal
2014: Eric Decker, Golden Tate, Desean Jackson, Andre Roberts, Emmanual Sanders
2013: Mike Wallace, Greg Jennings, Danny Amendola, Wes Welker, Brandon Gibson
2012: Vincent Jackson, Pierre Garcon, Laurant Robinson, Robert Meachem, Eddie Royal
2011: Santonio Holmes, Sidney Rice, Steve Breaston, Brad Smith, Sam Hurd

All better than T Williams.
Get someone in here....anyone. Haha

 

[hornitosmonster]

He is getting pretty washed so pass. We have a legit #1 in Dez

 

[jterrell]

All better than T Williams.
Get someone in here....anyone. Haha

WR and Safety are two positions where Dallas is far below league average IMHO.
QB of the future and those 2 really seem like ideal targets.
If you let Carr AND Mo walk you gotta put CB up there too... which is why I am more likely to keep Mo than most anyone else.

 

[jterrell]

Yeah, after I posted that, I thought...well, Jerry usually doesn't learn, but Stephen would step in this time and steal his dad's penny and buy him a JWB gumball.

Jerry has his shiny penny at WR in Dez. Doubt we have any worry there.
And Jerry is making about zero personnel impact these days.
Whatever he says we seem to do the opposite.
He's either gotten really good with smoke signals or he isn't a primary decision maker.
If Stephen and McClay vote together we know that's what really happens.
Jerry is the tie-breaker or coin flip guy.

 

[khiladi]

I would rather spend that money on Alshon Jeffery from Chicago. He is in the prime of his career and worthy of being a number 1. Plus he is a free agent.

Man, he destroyed us in 2013...

 

[khiladi]

Another 'Roy Williams' like move to try and bail out the struggles in this offense...

If defenses know where your going with the ball, the defense is more often than not, going to win the match-up despite your talent.

Is it always about plug-and-play as some sort of solution to the offensive woes? This second WR issue goes way back...

 

[StarBoyz83]

Not really a point in getting him. We won't have a decent qb to throw to him for the next few years.

 

[bevo11]

Lol...and then trade for Tom Brady huh? Megatron will be a raider. We have bigger problems than WR.

 

[birdwells1]

First, thank you for the intelligent post; and not some question over my football watching acumen.

Let me explain as best I can.
Dallas was 9th in rushing yards. That is good but not great... except they were 29th in passing yards. So they were 9th with ZERO pass threat. That is VERY impressive.

McFadden is here next year, cheap and with zero draft pick cost. He is the 5th highest rusher in the league. Any thoughts he is "washed" have been most certainly disproven.

Dallas had Randle here and Randle had running talent aplenty also at the right cost. He clearly has a 2 cent brain and is now gone so the situation changes but last year Dallas had no real desperate reason to be RB shopping unless they could get Gurley.

At the end of the day RB is just not that big a deal for this team right now. It is the rare position in the game with more legit options than there are jobs and running in Dallas is easier than most places with this OL/TE group.

If a value pick is there so be it but the Cowboys have holes all over that require more immediate concern.

After Gurley there isn't a single back I'd want more than Randy Gregory. Even is he is just a 2 down rush type end he has more value than any of those remaining RB.
We took Chaz Green in 3 and who knows with him. We need him to hit because RT is wide open but who knows how an injured guy whose done nothing makes out. Still as of today would I rather have Chaz Green, unknown RT or David Johnson? Give me Green. I always feel I can go go find a RB with little to no effort. I have McFadden here and can re-sign Dunbar as my 3rd down back. I can cycle through low cost options for that 3rd RB role but it may well be be Turpin who runs very hard and has some size.

I just think you are far overrating the importance of the RB depth chart and especially the importance of having a 2nd or 3rd tier RB in place as a back up behind DMC.

We have an entire draft and free agency before it matters again and if we do nothing but resign Dunbar we still have a top 10 RB group in 2016.

Man, I usually don't agree with you but you're right on with this one. McFadden probably did as good of a job as Murray would have, if you can't pass then it's going to be hard to run and last year with the threat of our passing game Murray flourished. Some people say that we miss Murray but I just don't see where, McFadden didn't even start the season and is now 5th in the NFL in rushing? That's pretty good to me. Lets not forget that the 2014 year was the only year Murray out up those numbers, I think that got a bargain with McFadden and I'd give the fo kudos for that one.

 

[EPL0c0]

All better than T Williams.
Get someone in here....anyone. Haha

Agree, I think TWill can be replaced, but I don't agree with having to spend a boatload of money to do it.

the WR field in the 2016 draft should be fairly deep. There should be quality guys available in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th rounds.

it's a stretch, but I would definitely not mind if Dallas drafted Braxton Miller. 6'1 215, athletic, raw but big potential IMO.

 

[jazzcat22]

Jerry has his shiny penny at WR in Dez. Doubt we have any worry there.
And Jerry is making about zero personnel impact these days.
Whatever he says we seem to do the opposite.
He's either gotten really good with smoke signals or he isn't a primary decision maker.
If Stephen and McClay vote together we know that's what really happens.
Jerry is the tie-breaker or coin flip guy.

I would like Jerry to be Mr. Irrelevant....

 

[Joe Realist]

Yes and trade for Peyton too!