We will face the Packers Not Giants

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I honestly believe this. The Seahawks are a shell of themselves right now.

Seattle is the toughest venue in the NFL. They have a solid defense and a team full of playoff veterans that have enjoyed success. Maybe they aren't as good as they've been but they are still a good team at home.

Meanwhile Detroit has been mauled several times this past month.
 

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Their offense is hot but their defense is still atrocious, people act like the Packers & Falcons are going to play by make it take it rules.

Lots of injures, but a good defense coordinator.
 

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I agree. I don't care how good their d is. Their offense is trash. They will not outscore gb.
 

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Detroit barely has a puncher's chance. They don't stick out in any one category. Stafford is a good QB, but they don't really have any one player to hang their hat on. While GB's defense isn't great, I think they will make more plays than Detroit's defense.

Not only that (about Stafford), but dude has a jacked up throwing hand. They do have Golden Tate. But Stafford has noticeably regressed since his injury. They still have a shot, with Thomas out, but Stafford will need to chuck the ball. Their running game is abysmal.

Oh, how glorious it would be to face DET in the divisional round.
 

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Detroit will beat Seattle

Very doubtful, but it would be awesome.

If Detroit goes to Seattle and beats them it wont be the same team which played us 2 weeks ago.

Even then they went toe to toe in the 1st half , before defense woke up.

I dont think we should take any NFC playoff opponent likely. JG needs to play pedal to metal , cautious playing not to lose will not cut it.
 

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We all know that the Giants have a great defense and a weak offense, and the Packers are pretty much the opposite.

So I took a moment to ask how the Packers have performed against superior defenses. In their 6 week hot streak they've done this:
-Scored 21 on Houston (#1 defense)
-Scored 38 on Seattle (#3)
-Scored 38 on Vikings (#5)

Then I ask...can the Giants score big on mediocre defenses? Answer: They don't seem to score big on anyone aside from Cleveland. Working backwards down the schedule:
19, 19, 17, 10, 14, 22, 21...

Unless Manning totally changes form or they suddenly get a running game...I can't see New York scoring more than 17...maybe 21. And the Packers should have enough to cover that.

Also this: Lambeau field

Another strand in the rope: look at the average margin of victory for the Giants in what have often been low scoring games. 8 of their 11 wins are by 7 points or less.
 

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Detroit will beat Seattle



If Detroit goes to Seattle and beats them it wont be the same team which played us 2 weeks ago.

Even then they went toe to toe in the 1st half , before defense woke up.

I dont think we should take any NFC playoff opponent likely. JG needs to play pedal to metal , cautious playing not to lose will not cut it.

Because we blew the Lions out in the 2nd half, people want to overlook it was tied 21-21 at half time. SIX first half TD's. They started really hot and then Marinelli made adjustments to the defense and we shut them out in the second half while scoring 3 more TD's ourselves for a 42-21 victory.

Yes, the Lions do have a shot at beating Seattle, especially since Seattle has not been playing all that well lately.
 

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Detroit is my bet. Seattle anemic offense will be their doing. With the loss of Lockett they just lost a big weapon not only on offense but special teams. I hear that they signed Hestor which should help on special teams.
 

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I agree. I don't care how good their d is. Their offense is trash. They will not outscore gb.

I'm coming around to this line of thinking. That's field is SO tricky when it's that cold too. The Pack knows how to play on it, especially offensively.
 

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I think Detroit really does have at least a small chance of being victorious. There has been a number of real stinker games from Seattle this year even before they lost some key players.

I think they have a fairly good chance of winning, Seattle's offense is mediocre at best and their defense aren't the world beaters they once were. The Lions may be able to score 21 points and that might be enough.
 

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Hypothetical: We are facing the Packers in the division round. We are up 40-38 at the GB 47 with 1:45 remaining. It's 4th and 2. Both offenses have run up and down the field. Dallas has the ball. Would you: A) Punt it and likely have Rodgers win them the game with at minimum a FG. B) Go got it and likely clinch with a 1st down.
 

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Because we blew the Lions out in the 2nd half, people want to overlook it was tied 21-21 at half time. SIX first half TD's. They started really hot and then Marinelli made adjustments to the defense and we shut them out in the second half while scoring 3 more TD's ourselves for a 42-21 victory.

Yes, the Lions do have a shot at beating Seattle, especially since Seattle has not been playing all that well lately.

The Lions benefited, greatly, from a running game -- out of blithering nowhere -- in that first half (Zenner).
 

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We all know that the Giants have a great defense and a weak offense, and the Packers are pretty much the opposite.

So I took a moment to ask how the Packers have performed against superior defenses. In their 6 week hot streak they've done this:
-Scored 21 on Houston (#1 defense)
-Scored 38 on Seattle (#3)
-Scored 38 on Vikings (#5)

Then I ask...can the Giants score big on mediocre defenses? Answer: They don't seem to score big on anyone aside from Cleveland. Working backwards down the schedule:
19, 19, 17, 10, 14, 22, 21...

Unless Manning totally changes form or they suddenly get a running game...I can't see New York scoring more than 17...maybe 21. And the Packers should have enough to cover that.

Also this: Lambeau field
I just dont want to face a Hot Aaron Rodgers.
 

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We all know that the Giants have a great defense and a weak offense, and the Packers are pretty much the opposite.

So I took a moment to ask how the Packers have performed against superior defenses. In their 6 week hot streak they've done this:
-Scored 21 on Houston (#1 defense)
-Scored 38 on Seattle (#3)
-Scored 38 on Vikings (#5)

Then I ask...can the Giants score big on mediocre defenses? Answer: They don't seem to score big on anyone aside from Cleveland. Working backwards down the schedule:
19, 19, 17, 10, 14, 22, 21...

Unless Manning totally changes form or they suddenly get a running game...I can't see New York scoring more than 17...maybe 21. And the Packers should have enough to cover that.

Also this: Lambeau field

I'll grant that the Vikings game was compelling.

Seahawks defense, though, took a dark turn when they lost Earl Thomas.

Texans? Sure they're good, but 21 points isn't exactly jaw dropping.

NYG gets their fairly typical 20-27 points, and I see them limiting the Packers to about that. But I have GB scoring more FGs (5) than TDs (1). They'll move the ball, but won't get in. And I still believe the GB defense is greater liability to their cause than the NYG offense is to their cause. Almost cliche' to say it, but this is the kind of game you look for one turnover or special teams play to turn the game's final result.

NYG 24
GB 22
 
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Hypothetical: We are facing the Packers in the division round. We are up 40-38 at the GB 47 with 1:45 remaining. It's 4th and 2. Both offenses have run up and down the field. Dallas has the ball. Would you: A) Punt it and likely have Rodgers win them the game with at minimum a FG. B) Go got it and likely clinch with a 1st down.

First you try to get them to go offsides with a hard count, then you go for it by putting a FB in front of Zeke with Witten next to Free telegraphing it's a handoff going to the right...but it's really not!

Nope...it's a QB option going to the left, with Tyron and Leary blocking in front of Dak going for the sideline marker.

Maybe Zeke or Smith can sell it more by jumping over the pile. :D
 

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I'll grant that the Vikings game was compelling.

Seahawks defense, though, took a dark turn when they lost Earl Thomas.

Texans? Sure they're good, but 21 points isn't exactly jaw dropping.

NYG gets their fairly typical 20-27 points, and I see them limiting the Packers to about that. But I have GB scoring more FGs (5) than TDs (1). They'll move the ball, but won't get in. And I still believe the GB defense is greater liability to their cause than the NYG offense is to their cause. Almost cliche' to say it, but this is the kind of game you look for one turnover or special teams play to turn the game's final result.

NYG 24
GB 22

Green Bay should be strong in red zone. Montgomery has been a revelation for them. They can hit the Giants with their fullback. Rogers can sting with his arm or his feet and has strong receiving core.

The loss of Thomas took the 'hawk defense from five pro bowlers to four. Putting 38 on them was extremely impressive, no matter how you parse it.

21 points isn't impressive against the #1 league defense (houston)? Careful.

Dak and our offense faced top 5 defenses 3 times this year with point totals of 19, 17, 7. Had we scored 21 we would have beat the Giants in both of those losses.
 

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Hypothetical: We are facing the Packers in the division round. We are up 40-38 at the GB 47 with 1:45 remaining. It's 4th and 2. Both offenses have run up and down the field. Dallas has the ball. Would you: A) Punt it and likely have Rodgers win them the game with at minimum a FG. B) Go got it and likely clinch with a 1st down.

If our defense has already given up 38 points, then the odds of keeping GB out of FG range is not very good. So I go for the first down to seal the game with my offense. I am not punting and watching Rogers take the Pack right down the field and kick a FG to beat us at the buzzer.
 

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I can't believe we are talking about GB in the playoffs after that bad start. Never can count them out.
 
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