We will "rue the day" that we let Garrett go

[theogt]

Now you're being daft again. The very post after I stated in four or five very specific places where we can absolutely, positively know that Garrett has particular weaknesses, and where I very specifically take issue with a very confined argument someone has made, you assert that I'm implying something completely at odds with the explicit statements I've made, simply because you've "been there, done that", whatever that can be taken to mean.

We can know a great many things wrong with Garrett, but saying "Cowboys + Garrett + Sparano = 13-3 and Cowboys + Garrett = 9-7 CASE CLOSED!" is about the most embarrassingly inferior argument that could possibly be put forth on the subject.

Did you not even read my last post?

 

[Venger]

What has he done other than back up Troy and graduate from Princeton?

If he'd gone to, say, Oklahoma State and looked like Brad Childress, would people be saying how great he is based on what he's produced as a pro coach?

Serious question.

Was making the same point today in a conversation about the Cowboys. What makes this guy ready to be a head coach? He's got to go somewhere and get his coaching chops working in a quality program and have some sustained success as a coordinator or assistant before I'd give him the reins.

 

[Joe Realist]

I remember someone started a thread a while back about what does "rue the day" mean?

Well here ya go.


If Garrett goes elsewhere... HE WILL have much success and many will flip flop.


For me... I hope he stays. The guy is quality. The guy is premium. The guy is top shelf.

I concur. He needs to stay

 

[Batman]

I hope Garrett stays. Sure he has made some mistakes but name me one offensive coordinator who has not made a mistake. Garrett has some real upside and I would hate to lose him. But if we takes a head coaching job somewhere else who could blame him? He has a chance to make a name for himself somewhere and he will have far more control as a coach for another team than he would with King Jerra.

 

[MWILL]

I remember someone started a thread a while back about what does "rue the day" mean?

Well here ya go.


If Garrett goes elsewhere... HE WILL have much success and many will flip flop.


For me... I hope he stays. The guy is quality. The guy is premium. The guy is top shelf.

I usually agree with alot of stuff you say, but I have to dissagree on this one.

Garrett didn't use this offense well at all. He should of used his RB's better. It's troubling to see the rookies not play a bigger role earlier in the season.

He can't design GOOD plays for his WR's. Can someone pease explain why Steve Smith is making big play after big play for Carolina, but our WR's don't get many opportunities to make a play. Same goes for Arizona, EVERYBODY KNOWS Arizona is passing the ball and they still make plays.

He should've picked a backup QB. Speaking of QB's..... did Romo's game take a dive? Even if Romo didn't say publicly " we were exposed" he was thinking it. Question is how long was he thinking this?

Sorry if i'm comments are all over the place. I'm still not over my Cowboys NOT making the playoffs.

P.S. Nice Halle pick.

 

[NextGenBoys]

I remember someone started a thread a while back about what does "rue the day" mean?

Well here ya go.


If Garrett goes elsewhere... HE WILL have much success and many will flip flop.


For me... I hope he stays. The guy is quality. The guy is premium. The guy is top shelf.

Well put sir. People fail to realize that the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I am sorry, but Coach Tecmo does not get a pass.

When Ray Lewis is standing at the line calling out the play to his defense before the ball is even snapped.....Thats on Garrett.

When opposing players tell the media after the game that our offense is the most basic, simple offense in the NFL.....Thats on Garrett.

When we need 5 yards for a first down and all the receivers are running go routes........Thats on Garrett.

When our receivers have to be told by the QB where to line up almost every freaking play........Thats on Garrett.

When the franchise QB says that opposing defenses have figured out the offensive scheme and that it took until the 4th quarter for us to figure out what the other team is doing......Thats on Garrett.

I could go on, but I think we all get the point that Tecmo is in way over his head and anybody that thinks these problems I just mentioned are going to be magiacally fixed in the offseason are being naive in my opinion.

 

[KingintheNorth]

I am sorry, but Coach Tecmo does not get a pass.

When Ray Lewis is standing at the line calling out the play to his defense before the ball is even snapped.....Thats on Garrett.

When opposing players tell the media after the game that our offense is the most basic, simple offense in the NFL.....Thats on Garrett.

When we need 5 yards for a first down and all the receivers are running go routes........Thats on Garrett.

When our receivers have to be told by the QB where to line up almost every freaking play........Thats on Garrett.

When the franchise QB says that opposing defenses have figured out the offensive scheme and that it took until the 4th quarter for us to figure out what the other team is doing......Thats on Garrett.

I could go on, but I think we all get the point that Tecmo is in way over his head and anybody that thinks these problems I just mentioned are going to be magiacally fixed in the offseason are being naive in my opinion.

I know a lot of people don't like negative posts but this post brings up questions I would like answers to. Garrett is just as accountable as anyone else. What the heck happened to him? Why did his playcalling become such a liability for us last year (along with other things)??

 

[FLcowboy]

The 2007 Dallas Cowboys were one of the most prolific offenses in franchise history and among the more efficient, explosive and dangerous passing offenses in NFL history. Overshadowed by an embarrassing playoff loss and the record-setting New England Patriots, the productivity of that squad was remarkable.

The value of a young coordinator that oversaw and assisted in orchestrating that kind of offense merits a good bit of thoughtfulness about how quickly you want to cut ties.

But then we got to watch how he did this year, and he couldn't put together a game plan to thwart a defensive scheme planned by the Ravens and Eagles. This same coach was stymied by the likes of St. Louis. Yes, he did really well last year, but he wasn't for crap this year.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Garrett started to concern me when he couldn't find ways to get Felix "Holy **** every time I touch the ball I about break one" Jones the football.

And his inability to make adjustments. That really hurt us, seems we got predictable. Very predictable.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Jason has not demonstrated he can be a leader of men, period. Jason should of handled the offensive issues and divisiveness, it simply became a team distraction. Wade was helpless but so was Jason.

WE all know that he leaned on Sporano last year, clearly that was the case.

He may eventually hold some offensive promise but if this season was any indication, he has a long way to go.

The head coaching question is much more than offensive possibilities, given this team's make-up, we need a voice of authority that commands respect.

Bill was too old and hard, Wade is too vanilla and soft and Jason is no leader of men.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

I feel like Jerry understands this too. He may have to fire wade to keep him. I do now see us letting Garrett walk away so easily.

 

[Bach]

Actually, I do not believe he is very good at rueing. The fans are better at rueing.

He tends to regret things after the fact, like he is claiming he regrets not giving Chan Gailey the same "continuity" treatment he is affording to Wade Phillips right now.

Is that rueing?

I doubt he regrets the Gailey deal. That's just him justifying keeping Wade.

 

[Hostile]

I doubt he regrets the Gailey deal. That's just him justifying keeping Wade.

I bet he does regret firing Chan Gailey because he hired Dave 5'11" Campo.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I bet he does regret firing Chan Gailey because he hired Dave 5'11" Campo.

Campo was that tall??










































:laugh2:

 

[JordanTaber]

I really don't know what Garrett has shown that should be taken as impressive.

Yes, the cumulative numbers for the 2007 offense exceeded those of 2006, but if you really analyze them, they were basically what the 2006 offense would have been had Romo started the full season. Just as a reminder, Garrett was not on the staff that season.

Romo's totals through 10.5 games in 2006 put him on pace for 4424 yards passing, along with 29 TDs and 20 INTs, for a 16 game season.

Yards per pass attempt was 8.6, which actually exceeded what he did the following season (8.1).

If this team wants to win now, which based on the Roy Williams trade it's obvious they do (giving up so much for a guy who likely would've been a free agent in the off-season)...hell, they already blew the "The Time Is Now" season THIS year. If they don't win next year, it's probably time to tear most of it down and rebuild.

Keeping Jason Garrett around, hoping he can "continue to grow" (or regress) isn't going to cut it.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I certainly won't be flip flopping. Unless the guy does a complete turn around, as an HC, from what I saw of him as the OC this year without someone around to hold his hand, I can't see any reason I'll be upset he's gone.

And even if he does turn it around, and turn out good, I won't feel bad about having wanted him gone because we don't have the Garrett that is any good. Will he be someday? Possibly but right now he's not and I think there is too much talent on this team to be wasted by waiting for a guy to turn out good just because they might one day be good.