We will wait too long on a coaching change.

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Again we will play long enough for other teams to pick up new coaching staffs and we will be stuck again.

Don't get me wrong , I don't want us to lose ,but to me it looks like the handwritings on the wall.

With Holmgren looking like he'll be in Cleve, and Shanahan talking to Wash. looks like if we win one playoff game Wade's safe and if not that red headed kid will be HC so more of the same next year.

kinda frustrating.:(
 

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The Cowboys aren't going to make the playoffs, so I don't this will be too much of a problem.
 

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Kaika;3152593 said:
Again we will play long enough for other teams to pick up new coaching staffs and we will be stuck again.

Don't get me wrong , I don't want us to lose ,but to me it looks like the handwritings on the wall.

With Holmgren looking like he'll be in Cleve, and Shanahan talking to Wash. looks like if we win one playoff game Wade's safe and if not that red headed kid will be HC so more of the same next year.

kinda frustrating.:(

Unfortunately, I think that Ground Garrett is already under contract for another year. I saw some comments from him the other day (I don't recall hearing a lot from him in the past) I'll bet we hear from him more in the coming weeks. Just a sick hunch.
 

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Garrett isn't going anywhere.
 

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brickman;3152627 said:
That's too bad. I think we need a purging of him & wade.

Jerry COULD cut him. He would have to pay him 3 million dollars, but That's a lot less than other owners pay to cut head coaches in the middle of their contract. Didn't Shannahan get paid like 9 million dollars by Denver?

That said, I think the big fear will come true. Garrett will become HC, alot of this existing staff will stay, and we will see more of the same next year.
 

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Kaika;3152593 said:
Again we will play long enough for other teams to pick up new coaching staffs and we will be stuck again.

Don't get me wrong , I don't want us to lose ,but to me it looks like the handwritings on the wall.

With Holmgren looking like he'll be in Cleve, and Shanahan talking to Wash. looks like if we win one playoff game Wade's safe and if not that red headed kid will be HC so more of the same next year.

kinda frustrating.:(

Not really sure what it is you want...do you want us to dump the coach today?

Holmgren isnt talking to Cleveland about being their coach, why does he even matter here?
 

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bysbox1;3152643 said:
Jerry COULD cut him. He would have to pay him 3 million dollars, but That's a lot less than other owners pay to cut head coaches in the middle of their contract. Didn't Shannahan get paid like 9 million dollars by Denver?

That said, I think the big fear will come true. Garrett will become HC, alot of this existing staff will stay, and we will see more of the same next year.

We will definitely see more of the same until and/or unless the OL get's a facelift and we add another threat at WR..
 

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Sarge;3152647 said:
We will definitely see more of the same until and/or unless the OL get's a facelift and we add another threat at WR..

and get a defense that can win games by making enough big plays and playing well in crunch time

I dont see the WR issue as much of a problem, the production is there as a group...something needs to change with the OL, totally agree there...gotta totally rebuild the safety position too
 

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dbair1967;3152651 said:
and get a defense that can win games by making enough big plays and playing well in crunch time

I dont see the WR issue as much of a problem, the production is there as a group...something needs to change with the OL, totally agree there...gotta totally rebuild the safety position too

Yep - I coulda went on and on - the real point is, the talent on the team is not only overrated, it is pretty seriously overrated.

BTW - I still think we need help at WR ;)
 

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Sarge;3152657 said:
Yep - I coulda went on and on - the real point is, the talent on the team is not only overrated, it is pretty seriously overrated.

BTW - I still think we need help at WR ;)

Gilyard from Cincy help?:)
 

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I would like a coach that has won something, or has coached under someone that has won something.

Giving Garrett the reigns when he's been in the league less for what, less than 5 years? And under Wade? I don't think there's any way you can justify that promotion.

Get a mentor head coach. Let Jason learn from a GREAT coach and then hand him the reigns. I think he's intelligent enough to be a good coach one day, but not right now. He needs someone to teach him how to prepare for games mentally and strategically. I think we've all seen the potential, but I don't really think he's had anyone there to piece it all together for him.
 

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gmoney112;3152662 said:
I would like a coach that has won something, or has coached under someone that has won something.

Giving Garrett the reigns when he's been in the league less for what, less than 5 years? And under Wade? I don't think there's any way you can justify that promotion.

Get a mentor head coach. Let Jason learn from a GREAT coach and then hand him the reigns. I think he's intelligent enough to be a good coach one day, but not right now. He needs someone to teach him how to prepare for games mentally and strategically. I think we've all seen the potential, but I don't really think he's had anyone there to piece it all together for him.

Not really defending JG here, but he did play a few years under Jimmy Johnson and Norv. Now he was a player then, not a coach, but even then it was reported he was a student of the game and many figured he would go into coaching.

Just something to consider.
 

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Not that I think it's right, but I think Jones is probably biting his fingernails.
 

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Sarge;3152657 said:
Yep - I coulda went on and on - the real point is, the talent on the team is not only overrated, it is pretty seriously overrated.

I dont think its vastly overrated, and we do have several guys that one can easily argue are at the top of the league or very close to the top of the league at their position. We have several people who have underachieved and some holes, but there is enough talent to be better than this IMO.

We got as far as we can go with Wade, he has to be replaced.
 

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Sarge;3152657 said:
Yep - I coulda went on and on - the real point is, the talent on the team is not only overrated, it is pretty seriously overrated.

BTW - I still think we need help at WR ;)

I think we need to get away from the fat, mauling type OL and get more athletic at the position. Also, adding a speedy WR (S. Moss/D. Jackson mold) should be a priority. After that, linebacker and safety should be next.
 

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Smith22;3152680 said:
I think we need to get away from the fat, mauling type OL and get more athletic at the position. Also, adding a speedy WR (S. Moss/D. Jackson mold) should be a priority. After that, linebacker and safety should be next.

We've had two interceptions for the safety position (combined) in something like the last 35 games. There is nothing thats a more pressing issue than getting some people back there that can make a damn play and make easy tackles.
 

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dbair1967;3152678 said:
I dont think its vastly overrated, and we do have several guys that one can easily argue are at the top of the league or very close to the top of the league at their position. We have several people who have underachieved and some holes, but there is enough talent to be better than this IMO.

We got as far as we can go with Wade, he has to be replaced.

I agree with Wade, but I think Sarge is right. Our talent level is WAY, WAY overrated.

Especially at WR.
 

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bysbox1;3152687 said:
I agree with Wade, but I think Sarge is right. Our talent level is WAY, WAY overrated.

Especially at WR.

It's been sufficient to win the last 2 games had we had an appropriate coach.
 

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I don't think Garrett get's the nod. Jerry will want a splash, especially with the Skins getting Shanny.

If he does go with Garrett, Then Romo will be 33 or 34 by the time the new replacement arrives. And everybody will be saying we haven't one a playoff game in 16 years!!!!
 
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