Weddle close to signing with Ravens

garyv

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ohhhhhh can you say welcome back starters. But on a serious side. I've read we may move Byron Jones to
Safety does anyone feel he can play either safety spot free safety or strong safety or better equipped for only one ?
 

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With incentives up to $29M. For a 31 year old safety that wasn't really a game changer in his career, ever.

Way, way too much. But he should help Baltimore for a season or two.

6 mill a year average when Church is making 4.25.

Anyways, only thing that matters is the guaranteed money in 2018-19. Safeties actually play well into their mid 30s.

On the other hand, I thought good teams never spent money in FA.
 

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ohhhhhh can you say welcome back starters. But on a serious side. I've read we may move Byron Jones to
Safety does anyone feel he can play either safety spot free safety or strong safety or better equipped for only one ?

Well, Byron in his second year will be an upgrade at either safety position. Wouldn't have guaranteed he'd be better in his rookie year. He's a smart player and the most athletic player in our secondary. Locked down Gronk one on one for an entire game. I don't want to see Church or Wilcox in a Cowboy uniform ever again.
 

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ilykdrama not much depth there !!! it wouldn't hurt my feelings to pick Ramsey and that other kid from WV Karl Joseph at pick 34....
 

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ilykdrama not much depth there !!! it wouldn't hurt my feelings to pick Ramsey and that other kid from WV Karl Joseph at pick 34....

Would yall like Ramsey and Karl Joseph both in our secondary ?
 

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I was hoping we were sniffing around at Weddle but gee whiz a 4yr ( 26 Mill ) deal for a bloke who is 31 is outrageous and i am glad we stayed away, as there is not much doubt his best football is behind him as he enters his twilight years.

1 year deal with an option for a 2nd heavily incentive based for sure but not 4 years.
 

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6 mill a year average when Church is making 4.25.

Anyways, only thing that matters is the guaranteed money in 2018-19. Safeties actually play well into their mid 30s.

On the other hand, I thought good teams never spent money in FA.

There's no guarantee Church will be here next season.

There's only been one safety that played well into his mid-30s, and that was Ed Reed (Rod Woodson if you count him in his late-career switch). Lets not place Eric Weddle on the Ed Reed pedestal just yet. He hasn't even had half the career of Ed Reed.
 

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There's no guarantee Church will be here next season.

There's only been one safety that played well into his mid-30s, and that was Ed Reed (Rod Woodson if you count him in his late-career switch). Lets not place Eric Weddle on the Ed Reed pedestal just yet. He hasn't even had half the career of Ed Reed.

Charles woodson? Reggie Nelson is turning 33 and he led all safteys in ints.. Church blows.. Cut him and bring nelson. In we need a playmaker
 

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There's no guarantee Church will be here next season.

There's only been one safety that played well into his mid-30s, and that was Ed Reed (Rod Woodson if you count him in his late-career switch). Lets not place Eric Weddle on the Ed Reed pedestal just yet. He hasn't even had half the career of Ed Reed.

So, if a player isn't Ed Reed then they won't be an upgrade? You're a smart guy, you know that's a little ridiculous.

And yeah, maybe "mid-30's" was a bit of an exaggeration, but Weddle turned 31 in January. In all likelihood this is a 2-3 year deal.

There are more than a few examples of safeties playing well for a long time. Charles Woodson was the secondary piece that held that Packers defense together during their SB run and at 39 still played better than Church and Wilcox.. Roman Harper just helped a top 3 defense reach the Super Bowl. Reggie Nelson just had more picks than our entire defense combined. Even Antrel Rolle was having a good over 30 run until he got injured this year.

Those are just guys off the top of my head. I'm not in love with Weddle but if he's even in talks about making another All-Pro team, which he did just the season before last, I don't think anyone's going to say this was some crazy deal when he's not turning 32 until next year.

The only thing that annoys me is this is another example of a "well run organization" that isn't supposed to spend money in FA. No, they don't sign 40mill in FA, but they went and got their guy, like the Patriots and Broncos last year, like every well run organization tends to do.
 

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Charles woodson? Reggie Nelson is turning 33 and he led all safteys in ints.. Church blows.. Cut him and bring nelson. In we need a playmaker

Regardless of opinions, releasing Carr/Church/Wilcox could have gotten us

Mario Williams/Robert Ayers + Reggie Nelson.

Nelson and Jones at safety and a legitimate DE. Sounds nice. Best thing about Nelson, a 1-2 year deal, if you bring in Ramsey it's a seamless transition.

We just resigned Mo for 3 mill who had a comparable, if not better, season than Carr before he got injured. You can find a player that can't make plays, and has record FF days set against him by top tier opposing wideouts when he has to man up. A CB who's weak to crossing routes, can't find the call, and needs help over the top isn't too hard to find. But instead, we just wait on Carr to give us permission to make a decision, after he leveraged us against a wall last year.
 

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Charles woodson? Reggie Nelson is turning 33 and he led all safteys in ints.. Church blows.. Cut him and bring nelson. In we need a playmaker

Charles Woodson spent like 1-2 years as a safety in GB to help out but has largely played CB throughout his entire career.

Interceptions are not the end-all-be-all for safety play, but when you're talking 30+ safeties, Reggie Nelson IS the kind of player I would spend Weddle's money on - would have no issues with that signing.
 

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Would yall like Ramsey and Karl Joseph both in our secondary ?

It might be an ugly 1st year, but can't be worse than lately. Then beginning next year it could start becoming really good.
 
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