31smackdown
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Just wanted to open up the Weeden vs Cassel debate. I honestly can find no reason to continue to start Weeden given what he has shown the past 3 weeks. The only real argument for Weeden that I have heard is that he does not turn the ball over and Cassel is an unknown and might have more turnovers.
I don't know a ton about Cassel, but just watching a few clips of him play here and there you can see that he does things that Weeden has not shown any ability or willingness to do.
For example:
His pocket presence, mobility and movement is much better than Weeden and he will actually step up in the pocket or roll from pressure while looking downfield and he can even scramble for a few yards if he has to.
His play fakes, look like play fakes and he can drop back from under center, take his drop and throw with timing
He looks to push the ball down the field and will give his receivers a chance to make a play 1 on 1. Definitely not looking to check down.
He will throw over linebackers and can throw the back shoulder throw.
In simple terms he looks like he is running the offense and not constantly checking down or skipping progressions because he is not comfortable with reading a defense.
Some potential issues:
He gets into trouble trying to squeeze the ball in to short underneath routes against zone and sometimes does not see all of the LB traffic. Better in the 8-15 yard range.
Can have issues in scramble drill by the endzone not seeing underneath defenders as players are running across the back of the endzone. These are cases where Weeden would have already just thrown randomly to his predetermined read or have been sacked so this is something Weeden doesn't even get to in a normal play.
He sometimes over estimates his arm and comes up 3 yards short on 40+ yard throws.. the good news is that he actually throws them and give the play time to develop.
I don't know a ton about Cassel, but just watching a few clips of him play here and there you can see that he does things that Weeden has not shown any ability or willingness to do.
For example:
His pocket presence, mobility and movement is much better than Weeden and he will actually step up in the pocket or roll from pressure while looking downfield and he can even scramble for a few yards if he has to.
His play fakes, look like play fakes and he can drop back from under center, take his drop and throw with timing
He looks to push the ball down the field and will give his receivers a chance to make a play 1 on 1. Definitely not looking to check down.
He will throw over linebackers and can throw the back shoulder throw.
In simple terms he looks like he is running the offense and not constantly checking down or skipping progressions because he is not comfortable with reading a defense.
Some potential issues:
He gets into trouble trying to squeeze the ball in to short underneath routes against zone and sometimes does not see all of the LB traffic. Better in the 8-15 yard range.
Can have issues in scramble drill by the endzone not seeing underneath defenders as players are running across the back of the endzone. These are cases where Weeden would have already just thrown randomly to his predetermined read or have been sacked so this is something Weeden doesn't even get to in a normal play.
He sometimes over estimates his arm and comes up 3 yards short on 40+ yard throws.. the good news is that he actually throws them and give the play time to develop.
