Week 2 vet adds

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Am I crazy or does it make sense to add a vet or two after week 1 to shore up the defense until some players get healthy?

Would a player like a Tommy Kelly really be worse than what we have? There are only so many youth growing pains you can deal with at once. Having even just a middle of the road to solid vet could help.

I know they are trying get younger and let the young guys develop but at what point do you just need someone who knows what they are doing if it's clear the young guys are not able to be get the job done or be consistent.

It will be interesting to see who is released on the cut down to 53. I suspect there will be several players that would fit this scenario.
 

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Am I crazy or does it make sense to add a vet or two after week 1 to shore up the defense until some players get healthy?

Would a player like a Tommy Kelly really be worse than what we have? There are only so many youth growing pains you can deal with at once. Having even just a middle of the road to solid vet could help.

I know they are trying get younger and let the young guys develop but at what point do you just need someone who knows what they are doing if it's clear the young guys are not able to be get the job done or be consistent.

It will be interesting to see who is released on the cut down to 53. I suspect there will be several players that would fit this scenario.

The problem is that the top focus this season should be to develop players for next year. If you add more vet DL, you don't leave room for any young developmental players. I would only be in favor of adding a vet DL if they cut Hayden to add the new guy.
 

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I would give Tommy Kelly and James Harrison one year deals. Both are agressive and they can provide some much needed experience on the Dline. One year deals wouldn't hurt and we need players that can produce at any level on our trenches.

I get the whole we need to get young sentiment, but we also need to get better and put out 4 lineman that won't get pushed back on majority of snaps.
 

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Scratch Kelly....just signed with the Cards. They need a body after losing Dockett.
 

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The problem is that the top focus this season should be to develop players for next year. If you add more vet DL, you don't leave room for any young developmental players. I would only be in favor of adding a vet DL if they cut Hayden to add the new guy.

Agreed. We're not going anywhere this year. And a vet guy available at week 2 isn't going to make or break our season. If you're gonna sign someone, go for a young guy or a younger veteran with something to prove. Gotta think long term here.
 

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Am I crazy or does it make sense to add a vet or two after week 1 to shore up the defense until some players get healthy?

Would a player like a Tommy Kelly really be worse than what we have? There are only so many youth growing pains you can deal with at once. Having even just a middle of the road to solid vet could help.

I know they are trying get younger and let the young guys develop but at what point do you just need someone who knows what they are doing if it's clear the young guys are not able to be get the job done or be consistent.

It will be interesting to see who is released on the cut down to 53. I suspect there will be several players that would fit this scenario.
In this particular case, I think you add the older vets only if you think they are the difference in making it into the playoffs. Once you get into the playoffs, anything can happen. Would a couple of wily vets make the difference in our case? I think it's very possible, but I don't get paid the big bucks, so what do I know?
 

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Am I crazy or does it make sense to add a vet or two after week 1 to shore up the defense until some players get healthy?

Would a player like a Tommy Kelly really be worse than what we have? There are only so many youth growing pains you can deal with at once. Having even just a middle of the road to solid vet could help.

I know they are trying get younger and let the young guys develop but at what point do you just need someone who knows what they are doing if it's clear the young guys are not able to be get the job done or be consistent.

It will be interesting to see who is released on the cut down to 53. I suspect there will be several players that would fit this scenario.

Kelly was picked up by Cards
 

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Jason Garrett made acomment in his PC a few days ago.
That they sat down 3 years ago, and decided what direction they wanted to go. And that was to build through the draft, and FA's when they could.
To get younger, and build a team to be proud of long term. But yet still try to keep a winnig team now.

So I don't think we will see too many vets being brought in, unless they are a true differnece maker for now and the next several years.

I do expect some moves, but not older vets.

We seen them foloow this plan, as many of the older, overpaid, under acheiving players are gone. They went with what 29 rookies into the OTA's, mini camps, and TC, other than a few vet moves. A few because of injuries, like McClain, because of Lee. But it seems they wil live & die with the youth.

Kind of like Jimmy in the 90's. But he also brough in many vets, but they could do both back then, he was in a win / win situation. now a team can't be open as much.
 

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In this particular case, I think you add the older vets only if you think they are the difference in making it into the playoffs. Once you get into the playoffs, anything can happen. Would a couple of wily vets make the difference in our case? I think it's very possible, but I don't get paid the big bucks, so what do I know?

I think all teams look to add players after cuts have been made to help shore up areas of need. I don't know many teams who enter a season without having aspirations of making the playoffs.
1 or 2 players can make a world of difference.
 

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I think all teams look to add players after cuts have been made to help shore up areas of need. I don't know many teams who enter a season without having aspirations of making the playoffs.
1 or 2 players can make a world of difference.

I don't disagree with you one bit. I guess I was just thinking that if a team is truly rebuilding, and recognized that going into the season, they might be hesitant to bring in "progress stopper" players. I do not think JG is thinking that way.
 

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The issue for me with week 2 guys is we need a guy(or 3) week 1.
We get our own guys back in Spencer and DLaw.
If we aren't getting the help for no what's the point.

I get the non-guaranteed money part but if a guy can play he can play.
 

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I don't disagree with you one bit. I guess I was just thinking that if a team is truly rebuilding, and recognized that going into the season, they might be hesitant to bring in "progress stopper" players. I do not think JG is thinking that way.

I think defensively Dallas will be rotating guys in and out quite a bit and they are trying to win, if a guy is showing progress in practice he will see more time on the field if not then they are not going to play him as much as someone who is showing something and helping the team. I don't buy into the progress stopping I think if a player can go out during the week and show himself as a legit player he will see time if not then he won''t
 

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The problem is that the top focus this season should be to develop players for next year. If you add more vet DL, you don't leave room for any young developmental players. I would only be in favor of adding a vet DL if they cut Hayden to add the new guy.

If none of these young players can beat out Hayden, anyways, I don't know if they have enough talent to worry about losing them.
 

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Am I crazy or does it make sense to add a vet or two after week 1 to shore up the defense until some players get healthy?

Would a player like a Tommy Kelly really be worse than what we have? There are only so many youth growing pains you can deal with at once. Having even just a middle of the road to solid vet could help.

I know they are trying get younger and let the young guys develop but at what point do you just need someone who knows what they are doing if it's clear the young guys are not able to be get the job done or be consistent.

It will be interesting to see who is released on the cut down to 53. I suspect there will be several players that would fit this scenario.

How often have we added players for Week 2 in the last 10 years? I honestly can't think of any
 

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I think Vonte Leach will be added after week 1

Leach isn't worth much. He is a 3 time pro bowl player because the probowl hasn't updated to include positions that get more snaps (2nd TE, h-back, 3rd Wr).
 

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The issue for me with week 2 guys is we need a guy(or 3) week 1.
We get our own guys back in Spencer and DLaw.
If we aren't getting the help for no what's the point.

I get the non-guaranteed money part but if a guy can play he can play.

There are probably non-vested players that will get cut that the Cowboys could sign without the guaranteed money issue.
 
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