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Troy Aikman is a Hall of Fame QB because of his accuracy, ability and rings, but also because he had one of the best running games to rely on during most of his career.

It's nice to see Romo finally benefiting from a running game that is not just an afterthought.

Now, if only this defense can prove to be near as good as the early 1990s defenses. ... Maybe Romo can get one of those rings, too.
 

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Troy Aikman is a Hall of Fame QB because of his accuracy, ability and rings, but also because he had one of the best running games to rely on during most of his career.

It's nice to see Romo finally benefiting from a running game that is not just an afterthought.

Now, if only this defense can prove to be near as good as the early 1990s defenses. ... Maybe Romo can get one of those rings, too.

I agree. Troy unlike QB of that time was not being asked to put up 300 yard games like Kelly, Marino, Young, Moon and Favre he had a complete team with an outstanding running game and used that running game to his and the teams benefit
 

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Troy Aikman is a Hall of Fame QB because of his accuracy, ability and rings, but also because he had one of the best running games to rely on during most of his career.

It's nice to see Romo finally benefiting from a running game that is not just an afterthought.

Now, if only this defense can prove to be near as good as the early 1990s defenses. ... Maybe Romo can get one of those rings, too.

This is not completely accurate. When you abandon the running game by checking out of running plays you never find out if you have a running game.
 

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And when you pretend you have the slightest idea what's going on in the huddle from the comfort of your couch, you embarrass yourself.

When you pretend like he didn't do it to the detriment of the team the you..... Well you know...

Favre used to do it and throw ints... You would see him walking back to sidelines and Holmgren was LIVID!!
 

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This is not completely accurate. When you abandon the running game by checking out of running plays you never find out if you have a running game.

I agree to an extent. If defense is coming up with safeties pulled up giving me man coverage on the outside then I expect Tony to attack it and if the defense refuses to back off the OL then continue to attack them they will back those safeties up. Does not mean I would not run the ball at all in those situation but yes I will throw more than run if defense wants to stack the line. In my view they have picked their poison and that was to die quickly. lol
 

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When you pretend like he didn't do it to the detriment of the team the you..... Well you know...

Favre used to do it and throw ints... You would see him walking back to sidelines and Holmgren was LIVID!!

Again, you don't know anything about how the plays are designed to work, you don't know the play calls and you don't know anything about football either. The QB read the defense and made the adjustment because it's part of the offense. It didn't have anything to do with "abandoning the run" or whatever it is some of you are on now that we've got the best running game in the history of the NFL after 4 games. Romo just made a crappy throw.
 

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This is not completely accurate. When you abandon the running game by checking out of running plays you never find out if you have a running game.

Really? You're going to lay the lack of a running game at Romo's feet?

That's a new twist on Romo blame. Even if he did change some runs to passes based on defensive alignment, I doubt it would have been enough for us to find out if we have a running game.

I will say, though, I'm not in favor of giving any QB too many options with the play-calling. They have enough decisions to make without also having to figure out the best play to run. You have a coordinator for the express purpose of examining defenses and picking plays and audibles that are best to run against that defense.

Of course, with Garrett calling his plays (and then calling them through Callahan), that didn't necessarily happen.
 

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Really? You're going to lay the lack of a running game at Romo's feet?

That's a new twist on Romo blame. Even if he did change some runs to passes based on defensive alignment, I doubt it would have been enough for us to find out if we have a running game.

I will say, though, I'm not in favor of giving any QB too many options with the play-calling. They have enough decisions to make without also having to figure out the best play to run. You have a coordinator for the express purpose of examining defenses and picking plays and audibles that are best to run against that defense.

Of course, with Garrett calling his plays (and then calling them through Callahan), that didn't necessarily happen.

I think most QB have the option to check out of plays when need be. Either that are you end up taking lots of negative plays or being forced to call timeout
 

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I agree. Troy unlike QB of that time was not being asked to put up 300 yard games like Kelly, Marino, Young, Moon and Favre he had a complete team with an outstanding running game and used that running game to his and the teams benefit

Just the threat of a real running game opens so much more up to a QB with linebackers and safeties having to cheat toward the line to stop it. And the fact that we still ran over the Saints despite their focus on the run should continue to open things up for Romo and the receivers.
 

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Just the threat of a real running game opens so much more up to a QB with linebackers and safeties having to cheat toward the line to stop it. And the fact that we still ran over the Saints despite their focus on the run should continue to open things up for Romo and the receivers.

NO did not stack the line all night, they had a single high safety and another safety on Dez along with the CB which is why Dez did not get many balls coming his way. Now when NO did bring up the safeties Dallas was able to go to Dez and T Williams a lot more. I think running game means a lot it keeps defense off balance. If a defense wants to go all out in stopping the run they can but it comes at a big price and a big risk.
 

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I think most QB have the option to check out of plays when need be. Either that are you end up taking lots of negative plays or being forced to call timeout

Didn't mean to say they didn't, just that few have the play-calling completely put into their hands. Their job is hard enough without having to handle the play-calls from play to play. Few go out there with the option of calling whatever they want, but all of them have given audibles for each play.
 

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Didn't mean to say they didn't, just that few have the play-calling completely put into their hands. Their job is hard enough without having to handle the play-calls from play to play. Few go out there with the option of calling whatever they want, but all of them have given audibles for each play.

You got to, defense comes in with different packages and alignments that sometimes the initial play being called works against the offense and you got to change it up. Ryan especially likes moving guys around quite a bit so the QB has to be able to see what is happening and check off to a play that has a better chance of success
There is not a lot of option normally 2 plays coming into the huddle
 

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Again, you don't know anything about how the plays are designed to work, you don't know the play calls and you don't know anything about football either. The QB read the defense and made the adjustment because it's part of the offense. It didn't have anything to do with "abandoning the run" or whatever it is some of you are on now that we've got the best running game in the history of the NFL after 4 games. Romo just made a crappy throw.

Again. Favre did it. Romo does it.
You don't want to understand that. That is on you.
More than one coach, one comes to mind, Jimmy Johnson, said sometimes you run the ball even if it isn't totally effective. You can't just go shotgun every time they stack the line. Sometimes a line has to win its battle.

I will defer to nfl coaches and not you.

Things look better now.
Happy day!
 

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I think most QB have the option to check out of plays when need be. Either that are you end up taking lots of negative plays or being forced to call timeout

You are right. People also need to remember that oftentimes the QB only has the option to change the run play from one side of the line to the other, or the pass play from one pass play to another. The options available aren't always from run to pass or pass to run. Also, the headset communication between QB and play caller is turned off after 15 seconds, if I'm not mistaken. Defenses can and do change alignments well after communication is lost, so it is often on the QB to make the decision on whether to audible. For anyone to suggest that they know any QB audibled at all is silly. They don't know unless they were in the huddle.
 

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You are right. People also need to remember that oftentimes the QB only has the option to change the run play from one side of the line to the other, or the pass play from one pass play to another. The options available aren't always from run to pass or pass to run. Also, the headset communication between QB and play caller is turned off after 15 seconds, if I'm not mistaken. Defenses can and do change alignments well after communication is lost, so it is often on the QB to make the decision on whether to audible. For anyone to suggest that they know any QB audibled at all is silly. They don't know unless they were in the huddle.

True, just because you check out of a run say off guard does not mean the check out is to pass it could be a check to a sweep to the outside.
 

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Again. Favre did it. Romo does it.
You don't want to understand that. That is on you.
More than one coach, one comes to mind, Jimmy Johnson, said sometimes you run the ball even if it isn't totally effective. You can't just go shotgun every time they stack the line. Sometimes a line has to win its battle.

I will defer to nfl coaches and not you.

Things look better now.
Happy day!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe even Garrett has thrown Romo under the bus by saying he has checked out of run plays.
 

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I agree. Troy unlike QB of that time was not being asked to put up 300 yard games like Kelly, Marino, Young, Moon and Favre he had a complete team with an outstanding running game and used that running game to his and the teams benefit
IDK Kelly and Young had pretty good running games and had complete teams too.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe even Garrett has thrown Romo under the bus by saying he has checked out of run plays.


Correct... But...
It doesn't fit the "I know everything about football" posters... Or telling someone "you don't know anything about football" crowd.

Why did you post this?

Lmao
 

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I honestly don't understand how/why people talk as is they know about our audibles, play calling, ect; When you're talking about that stuff, you're just completely talking out of your rear end. I guess unless you're secretly Jason Garret, Tony Romo, Scott Linehan, ect; Which in all honestly would be pretty hilarious.

I mean could you imagine if @ufcrules1 was secretly Jason Garret just slamming Romo any chance he got, man would that be something. :laugh:
 
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