Wentz in the Senior Bowl game

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I wasn't that impressed. Stares down receivers a lot. Looks to run more than throw. I'm not getting a warm and fuzzy about him at #4. Dax looked more game aware.

Hype seems to have died down a bit on him after that game at least. Good for us if we still plan on taking him at #4. Perhaps it will keep Cleveland from taking him. Bad for us if we were never planning on taking him and wanted Goff instead ( who Cleveland probably takes now ). Doesn't matter one way or the other if we don't plan on taking a QB at all.
 

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I wasn't that impressed. Stares down receivers a lot. Looks to run more than throw. I'm not getting a warm and fuzzy about him at #4. Dax looked more game aware.

It's not wise to put much stock into how players perform in the "All-Star" games, good or bad. They only practice a couple of days and are playing in an unfamiliar system with players/coaches that they've never played with before. The best way to evaluate all of these college players is by looking at their entire body of work from their collegiate careers. Same goes for combines and pro days...they are semi-useful evaluating tools, but no replacement for 2-4 years of actual games.
 

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These games are much more about what you do during the week than in the game. But It's also not about stats. What scouts look at is poise, decisions, and physical ability to make the throws when it comes to qb's. Also how well the deal with all the things thrown at them during the week to learn
 

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It's not wise to put much stock into how players perform in the "All-Star" games, good or bad. They only practice a couple of days and are playing in an unfamiliar system with players/coaches that they've never played with before. The best way to evaluate all of these college players is by looking at their entire body of work from their collegiate careers. Same goes for combines and pro days...they are semi-useful evaluating tools, but no replacement for 2-4 years of actual games.


You have to just flat out not want him to say you don't want him based on the Senior Bowl.


He threw 2 passes down field. 1 was under pressure. The rest of his throws were shorter checkdown stuff and his receivers were dropping passes.

He looks to run? Yeah because he was flushed from the pocket.


I'm a Prescott fan but I was a fan before the Senior Bowl and the Senior Bowl wouldn't have changed my mind. Just like Wentz.
 

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I wasn't that impressed. Stares down receivers a lot. Looks to run more than throw. I'm not getting a warm and fuzzy about him at #4. Dax looked more game aware.

He's fat.

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You have to just flat out not want him to say you don't want him based on the Senior Bowl.


He threw 2 passes down field. 1 was under pressure. The rest of his throws were shorter checkdown stuff and his receivers were dropping passes.

He looks to run? Yeah because he was flushed from the pocket.


I'm a Prescott fan but I was a fan before the Senior Bowl and the Senior Bowl wouldn't have changed my mind. Just like Wentz.

Yep. I'm not reading anything at all into a QB taking off on a run or missing a receiver in this type of game. It's almost sandlot football where one is just trying to survive/make a play any way possible. At the same time, I'm not getting hyped up over a great performance, either. All that said, a good performance is better than a bad one but I'm not putting much weight on either outcome.
 

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He should have been 8-10. If you weren't impressed, you were probably looking for reasons not to be.

Ok, then I was impressed at how mediocre a potential franchise QB looked. Better?

Since I had not seen him play, maybe I was expecting more. But I was like, that's it?
 

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Ok, then I was impressed at how mediocre a potential franchise QB looked. Better?

Since I had not seen him play, maybe I was expecting more. But I was like, that's it?

I highly doubt scouts paid any attention to his stats in this game, especially behind a line he did not know, a system he picked up in three days and throwing to unfamiliar receivers.

If you need more information and need to see how he plays, you are better off watching his full game cutups.

Look him up at draftbreakdown.com.
 

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Where did you get "stares down receivers from", considering he didn't stare down receivers?
 

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Where did you get "stares down receivers from", considering he didn't stare down receivers?

From the field camera behind the QB. Wentz would look to the side where he would eventually throw, snap the ball and his head never turns away from that side until he either throws or takes off and tries to run. Which he seems to do a lot in some of the game tape I've seen.
 

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Ok, then I was impressed at how mediocre a potential franchise QB looked. Better?

Since I had not seen him play, maybe I was expecting more. But I was like, that's it?


I think you need to re-evaluate how you evaluate players.


Wentz has already put his talent out on tape. These Senior bowls aren't about how they perform in the game.

Wentz has great feet, a rifle for an arm, and by all accounts is a very intelligent guy as far as football goes. That didn't change Saturday.
 

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From the field camera behind the QB. Wentz would look to the side where he would eventually throw, snap the ball and his head never turns away from that side until he either throws or takes off and tries to run. Which he seems to do a lot in some of the game tape I've seen.


There is plenty of tape of him not doing this in a offense he played in for 4 or 5 years and not a offense he played in for a few days.
 

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There is plenty of tape of him not doing this in a offense he played in for 4 or 5 years and not a offense he played in for a few days.

Yup.......the 1st Sound/ Behind the Pylon breakdown says exactly the opposite. Showed him going thru progressions in very nice fashion
 

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I thought he looked good. 1st possession they ran on 2nd and 3rd down. Second possession he hit the WR in the hands on a very difficult throw and the WR dropped it on 3rd down.. He moved up in the pocket well and was on target with almost all of his throws. There was not a lot to see there but there was nothing at all to say that he looked bad. I am pretty sure they had one replay of the pass to the TE down the seam where he looked off the safety as well.
 

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He should have been 8-10. If you weren't impressed, you were probably looking for reasons not to be.

He didn't throw for a TD.... You think he will against an NFL defense?

We have the 4TH OVERALL PICK! This guy is not worth it. Maybe in the second round.
 
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I highly doubt scouts paid any attention to his stats in this game, especially behind a line he did not know, a system he picked up in three days and throwing to unfamiliar receivers.

If you need more information and need to see how he plays, you are better off watching his full game cutups.

Look him up at draftbreakdown.com.

There's a reason most of the scouts leave town before the game is ever played. They want to see them practice, then go back to start looking at game film. There is almost no value to the game itself.
 
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From the field camera behind the QB. Wentz would look to the side where he would eventually throw, snap the ball and his head never turns away from that side until he either throws or takes off and tries to run. Which he seems to do a lot in some of the game tape I've seen.

If true (and I'm not sure it is), this is the kind of stuff he would learn while Romo runs the team for 2 or 3 years. Wentz is not a QB ready to play on day 1. Dallas doesn't need that. They need a guy with a high ceiling they can develop. Wentz fits the bill.

This is also a reason why Cleveland may very well pass on him.
 

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To me, the real question is how did he do in the classroom studying the offense with the coaches. This is where they will know if he is a 4th pick or not. Everyone knows his physical ability. There is no question he has the tools. Whether or now we Draft him is solely dependent on how he did at practice and in the film reviews. I am glad Hogan was on the team as well. I am not opposed to passing on QB in the first in a good trade down and picking up Hogan later in the draft. I don't think he is as good as the top 3 today but I think after a few years learning, he will be a stud in the NFL.
 
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