Wentz in the Senior Bowl game

[Doomsday101]

reports that scouts felt he did very well, he can't control passes dropped in the game.

 

[texbumthelife]

There is plenty of tape of him not doing this in a offense he played in for 4 or 5 years and not a offense he played in for a few days.

If Wentz had 4-5 years of tape, there would be no questions about him.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

If true (and I'm not sure it is), this is the kind of stuff he would learn while Romo runs the team for 2 or 3 years. Wentz is not a QB ready to play on day 1. Dallas doesn't need that. They need a guy with a high ceiling they can develop. Wentz fits the bill.

This is also a reason why Cleveland may very well pass on him.

I am not sold that Cleveland will draft a QB in the first, not at all. They have spent some significant resources on the position since 2007, 3 1sts and a 3rd. They may not can stomach it again. They may try to go get some pieces for a new QB and fill in the QB void in FA or trade for a QB that has proven he can play in the league. And pick up a development QB in the 3rd or so.. I don't know of course but I can see them passing on a QB in the 1st.

 

[Direwolf63]

I am not sold that Cleveland will draft a QB in the first, not at all. They have spent some significant resources on the position since 2007, 3 1sts and a 3rd. They may not can stomach it again. They may try to go get some pieces for a new QB and fill in the QB void in FA or trade for a QB that has proven he can play in the league. And pick up a development QB in the 3rd or so.. I don't know of course but I can see them passing on a QB in the 1st.

I hope your right. That would give us more options.

 

[gimmesix]

I think you need to re-evaluate how you evaluate players.


Wentz has already put his talent out on tape. These Senior bowls aren't about how they perform in the game.

Wentz has great feet, a rifle for an arm, and by all accounts is a very intelligent guy as far as football goes. That didn't change Saturday.

I'll agree that more has to be looked at than just a limited opportunity in the Senior Bowl, but the things that you love about Wentz were not apparent in his performance. If he had lit it up during his time in the game, then there would be no doubt about his draft standing. I didn't see anything in his performance that helps his position, so I think it's fair to say that. He also didn't do anything to hurt his position, and probably helped it during the week leading up to the Senior Bowl.

 

[Rogerthat12]

I am not sold that Cleveland will draft a QB in the first, not at all. They have spent some significant resources on the position since 2007, 3 1sts and a 3rd. They may not can stomach it again. They may try to go get some pieces for a new QB and fill in the QB void in FA or trade for a QB that has proven he can play in the league. And pick up a development QB in the 3rd or so.. I don't know of course but I can see them passing on a QB in the 1st.

I am pretty sure Hue will draft a QB at #2, he basically has said as much and Manziel is a goner.

I do not think it is a smokescreen either, I think he wants to get it right and he knows he needs a franchise QB to do it properly.

They may groom the pick before he starts but I can see them grabbing their guy at #2.

 

[Bizwah]

He played one quarter....one....So, from one quarter of an all-star game, you are ready to write him off?

Scouts have said time and time again, they don't care about the game as much. They watch the practices more intently. Many go home after the practices.

I don't know the prospect that well. I'm not going to pretend I know how to evaluate QBs. I certainly won't pretend that from a few practice clips and a handful of snaps in an all-star game that I can read him as a prospect.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I have questions on him at #4 overall just based on what I've seen of him game footage on YouTube. He's a very inconsistent QB. He will have a lot of plays where he does everything you can hope to have a QB do, then has plenty of plays where he looks nowhere near ready for the big time.

I think most QB's in college are similar, but he's playing against far weaker competition. Personally, I am still wanting Paxton Lynch over Wentz at this point.






YR

 

[MagicMan]

After the Senior Bowl, my order of QB preference on RD 1 is still Goff, Lynch and then Wentz. I think we have to get one of these guys-----if not, then Jones and Garrett deserve another 4-12 season once Romo goes down again. ................ Oh that reminds me, I need to pickup some peanut brittle before going home tonite.

And yes, Cleveland WILL be going QB at #2 since Manziel is history and the only question with him is will he be traded or released. I actually believe the Wentz love by the FO is to get Cleveland interested in him and then the Boys can pick who they really want------Goff. But do have Wentz as possibly their backup choice.

 

[tm1119]

If Wentz had 4-5 years of tape, there would be no questions about him.

Lack of tape is 1 of the best things going for Wentz I think. The more tape you have the more opportunity for scouts to pick apart and dissect. A lot harder to find those flaws when you're only looking at a grand total of 600 throws against 1-AA competition over the past 2 years.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Hype seems to have died down a bit on him after that game at least. Good for us if we still plan on taking him at #4. Perhaps it will keep Cleveland from taking him. Bad for us if we were never planning on taking him and wanted Goff instead ( who Cleveland probably takes now ). Doesn't matter one way or the other if we don't plan on taking a QB at all.

He isnt 2016 ready. Cleveland needs a 2016 starter and I think they look to Goff. Lynch is a wild card because I feel he has more upside then both, but he is in the same boat as Wentz IMO. Lynch may be more readt then Wentz, Wentz has some habits he needs to work out or else he is gonna kill himself in the pros

 

[HellCrowe]

I'd be worried with starting a QB with the #4 pick but that is not the case with our team. He's not expected to come in and lead our team to the superbowl. He's expected to take the A.Rodgers route. If we didn't have Romo then I'd take Goff. But if you are talking about our situation I don't think you take Goff over Wentz.

 

[texbumthelife]

Lack of tape is 1 of the best things going for Wentz I think. The more tape you have the more opportunity for scouts to pick apart and dissect. A lot harder to find those flaws when you're only looking at a grand total of 600 throws against 1-AA competition over the past 2 years.

Great points. It's wonderful for him, terrible for scouts and us.

 

[tm1119]

Great points. It's wonderful for him, terrible for scouts and us.

That's why it cracks me up seeing all of these people slobbering over Wentz. Even if you're a good internet scout (oxymoron, I know) you've probably only seen him make 250-300 throws on tape. Take out the check downs, bubble screens, throw aways, ect. and you're talking about 175-200 throws against 1AA competition. And people are so sure about him?? Boggles my mind.

And I'm not saying whether he will or won't be a good NFL QB either, just saying that myself and everyone else here has no clue.

 

[texbumthelife]

That's why it cracks me up seeing all of these people slobbering over Wentz. Even if you're a good internet scout (oxymoron, I know) you've probably only seen him make 250-300 throws on tape. Take out the check downs, bubble screens, throw aways, ect. and you're talking about 175-200 throws against 1AA competition. And people are so sure about him?? Boggles my mind.

And I'm not saying whether he will or won't be a good NFL QB either, just saying that myself and everyone else here has no clue.

Well if you've read anything I have posted, we seem to be in exactly the same boat. His hype train has no breaks and eventually it's going to come to a significant turn.

 

[windward]

He didn't throw for a TD.... You think he will against an NFL defense?

We have the 4TH OVERALL PICK! This guy is not worth it. Maybe in the second round.

So? It's the freaking Senior Bowl, a glorified exhibition.

 

[texbumthelife]

I have questions on him at #4 overall just based on what I've seen of him game footage on YouTube. He's a very inconsistent QB. He will have a lot of plays where he does everything you can hope to have a QB do, then has plenty of plays where he looks nowhere near ready for the big time.

I think most QB's in college are similar, but he's playing against far weaker competition. Personally, I am still wanting Paxton Lynch over Wentz at this point.






YR

My sentiments exactly, YR

 

[kevm3]

What exactly is the source of the wentz hype? I remember he was a 2nd rounder or possibly a mid to late 1st rounder just a few months ago and now he's a top 5 pick. What has he done to justify moving up so fast?

 

[Silverstar]

What exactly is the source of the wentz hype? I remember he was a 2nd rounder or possibly a mid to late 1st rounder just a few months ago and now he's a top 5 pick. What has he done to justify moving up so fast?

Most of the mock drafts or big boards I look at don't even have Wentz in the top 10.

DraftCountdown - 26
CBSSports - 11
HuddleReport - 13
FootballsFuture - 15
NFLDraftGeek - 22
Mel Kiper - 22
Todd McShay - 30

 

[jobberone]

He looks like a guy we have except he's faster. We can't know the cerebral aspects of either's game.