Werder: Sources: Pacman offers to cut pay demand for Titans

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sources: Pacman offers to cut pay demand for Titans

By Ed Werder
ESPN.com
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Updated: April 4, 2008, 6:58 PM ET

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While Pacman Jones trade discussions remain stalemated, sources tell ESPN that the Cowboys are convinced that the more than $6 million in guaranteed base salary the Titans are obligated to pay the suspended cornerback over the next three years virtually assures that an eventual trade is Tennessee's only inexpensive solution.

To stimulate a deal, according to sources, Jones has offered to forego money he has earned from and is owed by the Titans if the team drops its insistence he repay a similar amount of signing bonus.

Pacman Jones

Jones

Jones is expected to apply for reinstatement next week following a one-year suspension. Even though Jones had behavioral issues before coming to the NFL that caused some teams to downgrade him or to take him completely off their draft boards, the Titans took him sixth overall in 2005 and agreed to guarantee base salaries of more than $1.2 million for the upcoming season, $1.7 million in 2009 and in excess of $2 million in the final year. The Titans will be responsible for those amounts if Jones is released or kept on the Titans roster. Trading Jones and his contract to another team is the only way to avoid it.

Still, Titans coach Jeff Fisher, in an interview at the NFL owners meetings, told ESPN he has not eliminated the possibility of keeping Jones. That seems unlikely and contradicts other comments he has made about the Titans moving forward without the player arrested six times since beginning his NFL career.

To facilitate a trade to Dallas -- where Jones says he prefers to resume his career -- the player has offered to forego the $1.2 million performance bonus he earned for playing at least 25 percent of the Titans' defensive plays in an attempt to offset the $1.275 million signing bonus the Titans are currently demanding he repay before completing any trade. According to sources, Jones is willing to call it even and walk away. The Titans have not made that compromise.

There remains a less serious difference of opinion between the Cowboys and Titans over draft-pick compensation. The Titans want a fourth-round pick in this month's draft and another pick in 2009. Believing they have leverage, the Cowboys are unwilling to offer two picks.

"If they are serious about what they are asking from us, that's what they should do is keep him," a Cowboys source said.

Ed Werder covers the NFL for ESPN.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3330169

 

[SDogo]

"If they are serious about what they are asking from us, that's what they should do is keep him," a Cowboys source said.

EXACTLY!!!

 

[big dog cowboy]

I gotta ask, what the hell is the Titans problem?

Something that should have been wrapped up in two hours is taking FOREVER.

 

[Woods]

"There remains a less serious difference of opinion between the Cowboys and Titans over draft-pick compensation. The Titans want a fourth-round pick in this month's draft and another pick in 2009. Believing they have leverage, the Cowboys are unwilling to offer two picks.

"If they are serious about what they are asking from us, that's what they should do is keep him," a Cowboys source said."

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The longer the Titans wait, the less they are going to get from the Cowboys.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I gotta ask, what the hell is the Titans problem?

Something that should have been wrapped up in two hours is taking FOREVER.

Bud Adams running an NFL franchise like a used car lot is the problem.

 

[Woods]

I gotta ask, what the hell is the Titans problem?

Something that should have been wrapped up in two hours is taking FOREVER.

I really think they are acting stupidly.

This trade should have been completed weeks ago.

NO ONE is going to give money, a 4th rounder, and another 5th rounder (or so) for PacMan.

I really hope we don't have to trade with these bozos again. What a waste of time for JJ.

 

[The Rawhide Kid]

I gotta ask, what the hell is the Titans problem?

Something that should have been wrapped up in two hours is taking FOREVER.

The Titans are looking like complete idiots. They proclaim their desire to ostricize him from their organization, then, when a team desires to trade for him, they get all high and mighty about how much he's worth. He's worth what we're willing to give up. He's a great CB, but no where near what Moss was worth. I don't believe we could be making a deal with a more incompetent team. (We would never trade w/ the Commanders. )

 

[Big Dakota]

Sources: Pacman offers to cut pay demand for Titans

By Ed Werder
ESPN.com
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Updated: April 4, 2008, 6:58 PM ET

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While Pacman Jones trade discussions remain stalemated, sources tell ESPN that the Cowboys are convinced that the more than $6 million in guaranteed base salary the Titans are obligated to pay the suspended cornerback over the next three years virtually assures that an eventual trade is Tennessee's only inexpensive solution.

To stimulate a deal, according to sources, Jones has offered to forego money he has earned from and is owed by the Titans if the team drops its insistence he repay a similar amount of signing bonus.

Pacman Jones

Jones

Jones is expected to apply for reinstatement next week following a one-year suspension. Even though Jones had behavioral issues before coming to the NFL that caused some teams to downgrade him or to take him completely off their draft boards, the Titans took him sixth overall in 2005 and agreed to guarantee base salaries of more than $1.2 million for the upcoming season, $1.7 million in 2009 and in excess of $2 million in the final year. The Titans will be responsible for those amounts if Jones is released or kept on the Titans roster. Trading Jones and his contract to another team is the only way to avoid it.

Still, Titans coach Jeff Fisher, in an interview at the NFL owners meetings, told ESPN he has not eliminated the possibility of keeping Jones. That seems unlikely and contradicts other comments he has made about the Titans moving forward without the player arrested six times since beginning his NFL career.

To facilitate a trade to Dallas -- where Jones says he prefers to resume his career -- the player has offered to forego the $1.2 million performance bonus he earned for playing at least 25 percent of the Titans' defensive plays in an attempt to offset the $1.275 million signing bonus the Titans are currently demanding he repay before completing any trade. According to sources, Jones is willing to call it even and walk away. The Titans have not made that compromise.

There remains a less serious difference of opinion between the Cowboys and Titans over draft-pick compensation. The Titans want a fourth-round pick in this month's draft and another pick in 2009. Believing they have leverage, the Cowboys are unwilling to offer two picks.

"If they are serious about what they are asking from us, that's what they should do is keep him," a Cowboys source said.

Ed Werder covers the NFL for ESPN.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3330169

A big SCREW YOU to Bud Adams and the Titans organization. :laugh2:

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

As I've stated all along as the draft approaches, the Titans will come down off their asking price because they'll surely release Pacman after the draft. Jerry Jones should wait until after the draft anyways. The key is patience, something Jerrah doesn't have!

 

[Woods]

The Titans are looking like complete idiots. They proclaim their desire to ostricize him from their organization, then, when a team desires to trade for him, they get all high and mighty about how much he's worth. He's worth what we're willing to give up. He's a great CB, but no where near what Moss was worth. I don't believe we could be making a deal with a more incompetent team. (We would never trade w/ the Commanders. )

"Incompetent" is definitely the right word.

JJ's running possibly the richest NFL franchise (well, it will be after the stadium is completed), building one of the top stadiums in the WORLD, and here's the Titans screwing around with a trade for a suspended player for several weeks.

Personally, I hope JJ told the Titans that at the current asking price he has no interest. If they change their minds to something more reasonable, to give him a call. End of discussion.

 

[Aven8]

I think the Titans are realizing what we are. Man, this kid is pretty freakin good! There just trying to stir up more interest for him. Put it in this perspective.....If Ware went nuts and got arrested and suspended, would we just say see ya? He's a special talent and they do realize what they are losing.

 

[Dallas]

As I've stated all along as the draft approaches, the Titans will come down off their asking price because they'll surely release Pacman after the draft. Jerry Jones should wait until after the draft anyways. The key is patience, something Jerrah doesn't have!

Which makes perfect sense since he has already traded for Pacman.


WAIT!! What?


Yeah you make no sense w/ this. Are you just saying that because????????

 

[Dallas]

I think the Titans are realizing what we are. Man, this kid is pretty freakin good! There just trying to stir up more interest for him. Put it in this perspective.....If Ware went nuts and got arrested and suspended, would we just say see ya? He's a special talent and they do realize what they are losing.

This is not even an argument. The titans front office and head coach are on record SAYING they wanted to move on w/o the player.

Now all of the sudden they want to re-evaluate it all? Well tell the damn coach to shut his pie whole and stop wasting peoples time.


Fischer and Adams look rediculous right now.

 

[Big Dakota]

I think the Titans are realizing what we are. Man, this kid is pretty freakin good! There just trying to stir up more interest for him. Put it in this perspective.....If Ware went nuts and got arrested and suspended, would we just say see ya? He's a special talent and they do realize what they are losing.

Throw it against the wall...................

 

[Woods]

I think the Titans are realizing what we are. Man, this kid is pretty freakin good! There just trying to stir up more interest for him. Put it in this perspective.....If Ware went nuts and got arrested and suspended, would we just say see ya? He's a special talent and they do realize what they are losing.

No one other than the Cowboys have any serious interest in PacMan.

And if the Titans don't really want to trade him, they should quit wasting everyone's time (JJ's).

But basically, it appears to me they keep changing the asking price on a weekly basis. Which is fine, but there is NO OTHER interest than the Cowboys. We are only bidding against ourselves, and JJ knows this. Which is why he's stepped away for the time being.

 

[Aven8]

This is not even an argument. The titans front office and head coach are on record SAYING they wanted to move on w/o the player.

Now all of the sudden they want to re-evaluate it all? Well tell the damn coach to shut his pie whole and stop wasting peoples time.


Fischer and Adams look rediculous right now.

Well what else are they doing?? They're stalling for more interest. I think the real reason is they don't want Pac to come here and be contending for a superbowl, and be on the big stage with us. It is kind of like a reward for him to play for Da'Boys!

 

[TheCount]

I'm starting to think what the Titans really want is an excuse to let him play for them.

"Hey, we tried to trade you, you weren't worth much. Might as well suit up, see you at camp."

They probably also feel jilted that Pacman is basically in love with the Cowboys, and showed almost no interest in returning to that team.

 

[Dallas]

Well what else are they doing?? They're stalling for more interest. I think the real reason is they don't want Pac to come here and be contending for a superbowl, and be on the big stage with us. It is kind of like a reward for him to play for Da'Boys!

I think they really don't want to look like they are rewarding him w/ a move to Dallas. A shot in the eye to them and that franchise.

It probably has some to do with it.

I still see this deal happening sometime. It is nice to see JJ and Stephen sticking to the guns and basically telling them to sit on it then.

 

[Woods]

Well what else are they doing?? They're stalling for more interest. I think the real reason is they don't want Pac to come here and be contending for a superbowl, and be on the big stage with us. It is kind of like a reward for him to play for Da'Boys!

From the Titans perspective, it's definitely better that he comes to Dallas than joins the Pats or Miami, AFC rivals, for example.

But there is no other interest for PacMan. Both the Pats and Lions, for example, have nixed it.

I'm telling you, the closer we come to the Draft, the more the Titans are going to want to unload PacMan. If we end up drafting Talib, Jenkins, etc. in Round 1, I DOUBT we are going to give up 2 draft picks for PacMan.

The closer we approach the draft, whatever leverage the Titans think that they have, becomes less.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I gotta ask, what the hell is the Titans problem?

Owner = Bud Adams.


This is the same guy who couldn't keep the Oilers in Houston, the largest city is a football hungry state. The same guy whose team has had serious cap problems for years and when they get well under the cap this year, they don't spend any money in FA. The same owner whose team refused to let Steve McNair work out despite his long time service to the team. The same owner who drafted Vince Young because he was from Houston and wanted to spite Houston fans. The same owner who also allowed Pacman to be drafted in the first place.


Any more questions?






YAKUZA