Were we going to draft RB Allen or Davis in 4th round?

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There didn't seem to be a sense of urgency to move up and get a guy, which tells me they didn't think any of them were too special or they didn't think RB was a huge need. Look at last year's draft. DE was a huge need and they felt that Lawrence was the last guy left of the DEs who could be a good player. So they traded up to the early 2nd, giving up their 3rd, to get him. And people complained that, "We gutted our draft." (No lie. I actually read a comment Friday before the 2nd round started when rumors were swirling that we gonna trade up, someone said, "Great! Let's gut our draft two years in a row"). Well, no RB was worth trading up for, and no RB available when it was our turn to pick was the highest rated player on our board.
 

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I'm afraid to go into the 4000 page Peterson thread. I'm wondering if we are still trying to make a oaky for him or is that over.
 

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I'd rather have Gordon/Gurley/Yeldon for McFadden, Coleman of Ajayi for Randle, Davis/Duke Johnson for Williams and Langford/Abdullah for Dunbar.

Odds are you are right on some, and so are the Cowboys are as well but you see the tide, it will all come out in the wash.
 

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Most of you seem to be overlooking the fact that an overwhelming number of scouts believed this was the strongest draft for running backs we've had in a long time. There were at least 12 running backs that have the potential to be major NFL contributors, many of them starters or even stars. The Cowboys dropped the ball. We can revisit the issue at the end of next season and see how things play out.
 

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Most of you seem to be overlooking the fact that an overwhelming number of scouts believed this was the strongest draft for running backs we've had in a long time. There were at least 12 running backs that have the potential to be major NFL contributors, many of them starters or even stars. The Cowboys dropped the ball. We can revisit the issue at the end of next season and see how things play out.

An overwhelming number of scouts had Chaz Green rated as a 5th/6th rounder. We are either much smarter than everyone else, or
 

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I liked Buck Allen and do think he would have been a great pick in the 4th, but the team seemed set on letting the picks fall to them. If Wilson is as good as Hitchens, I have no problem with how it played out - and I do like Buck Allen.
 

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The Cowboys brass obviously disagrees. I'm siding with them.

They also thought Mo Claiborne was the second coming as well...........................point is that their decisions are not automatically correct.


If they think McFadden and Randle are better than any RB in this draft outside of Gurley and Gordon.................that is a mistake, whether they want to admit it or not.
 

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An overwhelming number of scouts had Chaz Green rated as a 5th/6th rounder. We are either much smarter than everyone else, or

Valid point.

It could come down to offensive linemen having two grades... One for zone blocking and one for man blocking.

Green looks like he would be a total blank in a man blocking scheme. He simply doesn't have the power.

But as a zone blocker, he has the mobility and the intelligence. And that's what Dallas was looking at.
 

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An overwhelming number of scouts had Chaz Green rated as a 5th/6th rounder. We are either much smarter than everyone else, or

The draft media ranking are not very accurate historically. They really don't know how to rank players with injury or character issues.
 

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That RB from Boise was the last RB they like but I think they wanted him cheap.
 

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The draft media ranking are not very accurate historically. They really don't know how to rank players with injury or character issues.

I know some said they would've had Green as a 3rd rounder but took into consideration his many injury issues at Florida. We're gambling he'll stay healthy whereas he has yet to prove he can. I think there were quite a few better options at that spot, but we shall see.
 

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Valid point.

It could come down to offensive linemen having two grades... One for zone blocking and one for man blocking.

Green looks like he would be a total blank in a man blocking scheme. He simply doesn't have the power.

But as a zone blocker, he has the mobility and the intelligence. And that's what Dallas was looking at.

He would fit our system better than others. My concern is value in the 3rd based on his injury issues.
 

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He would fit our system better than others. My concern is value in the 3rd based on his injury issues.

Agreed.

But third round picks are... third round picks... Guys chosen in that round are going to have "warts".

For the Cowboys to take the kid that early... well maybe they know something.

We'll see how it pans out.
 

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I haven't heard any mention of this - wondering if anybody heard a comment on this. IMO, we took for granted that a RB would be there in the round we projected them, and we kept missing. HUGE MISTAKE to miss out on a RB when this was the richest crop of RB an NFL draft has seen in many years.

I would have gladly given up a 7th to move up a few spots in the 4th and get Buck Allen.

Yes it was a huge mistake to get any back in this years draft. Now we are stuck with Mcfadden and some other scrubs. That will drive fear in the hearts of the defense (sarcasm alert).
 

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Exactly. We have 4 RB in which three were drafted by various teams. I take my chances that one of them will pan out behind this line.

Actually we have 3, Dunbar hasn't signed his tender yet, not that I seen anyway.
But I understand what you are saying. I wish we would have drafted a RB, but understand why they didn't.

I don't think after the 3rd or 4th round, there was a RB that could offer anything more than what we have now. So I agree, take a chance on on we have .besides,,we got another LB out of the draft that way...lol....
 

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I liked Buck Allen and do think he would have been a great pick in the 4th, but the team seemed set on letting the picks fall to them.
Yes, it sure did. And if Allen and Davis don't come off the board on the two picks before us, then we probably get one of them.
 

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I haven't heard any mention of this - wondering if anybody heard a comment on this. IMO, we took for granted that a RB would be there in the round we projected them, and we kept missing. HUGE MISTAKE to miss out on a RB when this was the richest crop of RB an NFL draft has seen in many years.

I would have gladly given up a 7th to move up a few spots in the 4th and get Buck Allen.

I think Coleman and Duke Johnson were in the plays at the end of the 2nd but they couldn't pass on Gregory. That was unexpected, but I'd never blame them for taking that player.

As for trade ups in the middle rounds...you can't just dial someone up and say that you want a trade and they're obligated to make it. Takes two, as you know. We only had one tradable 7th (I think, not sure). That was probably not enough to move up if those teams liked who they were getting ready to draft.

Have to admit, I suspect they would have taken one of those backs in the 4th. To have both go the two picks before you is tough. I think I'd have taken Ajayi there anyway....or maybe even David Cobb.

I don't at all consider it a "huge" mistake, but I can see why some might see it that way.
 

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Most of you seem to be overlooking the fact that an overwhelming number of scouts believed this was the strongest draft for running backs we've had in a long time. There were at least 12 running backs that have the potential to be major NFL contributors, many of them starters or even stars. The Cowboys dropped the ball. We can revisit the issue at the end of next season and see how things play out.

You can try to backdoor to criticism using generalizations but it doesn't posit much. In rounds 1-4 all the backs rated for that round were gone by the late 20s of said round.
 
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