Were we going to draft RB Allen or Davis in 4th round?

[Awakened]

You can try to backdoor to criticism using generalizations but it doesn't posit much. In rounds 1-4 all the backs rated for that round were gone by the late 20s of said round.

Your logic makes no sense. When the Cowboys want a guy, they have demonstrated that they are more than willing to pick them a round or two early. I'm willing to accept that they kept thinking one of the backs they had targeted were going to drop to them in a certain round, but that is poor execution of the draft. They just didn't take their need at RB seriously enough, nor did they take the wealth of talent available seriously enough either. They gambled and lost.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Your logic makes no sense. When the Cowboys want a guy, they have demonstrated that they are more than willing to pick them a round or two early. I'm willing to accept that they kept thinking one of the backs they had targeted were going to drop to them in a certain round, but that is poor execution of the draft. They just didn't take their need at RB seriously enough, nor did they take the wealth of talent available seriously enough either. They gambled and lost.

RBs were taken early each round.

We would have had to jump 12 spots in round 1. Trading up 6 in round 2 for Abdullah would have cost us Gregory and picks. We would have had to move up 15 slots in round 3 to get Duke and 21 spots for Coleman.

Like I said you are trying to backdoor generalizations to justify your whine. When you look at what actually happened your notion that it would have been easy and worth it to trade up us false. If you prefer Cooper, Jennings or whoever ahead of Green then fine but VR clearly had him ranked higher than the cottage industry.

 

[big dog cowboy]

They also thought Mo Claiborne was the second coming as well.......

So did the rest of the league. He was considered the best defensive player in that draft by everyone not just the Cowboys.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The Cowboys dropped the ball.

I still don't get this. We could have traded up or down to get a RB and we choose not to. That isn't dropping the ball it's not seeing any RB better than what we already have that was worth making a move for.

 

[Awakened]

RBs were taken early each round.

We would have had to jump 12 spots in round 1. Trading up 6 in round 2 for Abdullah would have cost us Gregory and picks. We would have had to move up 15 slots in round 3 to get Duke and 21 spots for Coleman.

Like I said you are trying to backdoor generalizations to justify your whine. When you look at what actually happened your notion that it would have been easy and worth it to trade up us false. If you prefer Cooper, Jennings or whoever ahead of Green then fine but VR clearly had him ranked higher than the cottage industry.

OK, you want specifics? I would have jumped up a few spots in the 4th round to take Buck Allen. Would have cost very little. Or I would've taken Jeremy Langford at the end of the third. They had Allen in for a visit, so they were clearly interested in him. They got beat on draft day - didn't get it done. Other teams beat them to the punch.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

OK, you want specifics? I would have jumped up a few spots in the 4th round to take Buck Allen. Would have cost very little. Or I would've taken Jeremy Langford at the end of the third. They had Allen in for a visit, so they were clearly interested in him. They got beat on draft day - didn't get it done. Other teams beat them to the punch.

Langford is a spare. Sounds like any warm body will do for you.

 

[Awakened]

I still don't get this. We could have traded up or down to get a RB and we choose not to. That isn't dropping the ball it's not seeing any RB better than what we already have that was worth making a move for.

Well, if your theory is that they just weren't that interested in any RB's after the top two, then in that case they didn't drop the ball. But they had 5 backs in for official visits, and one of them wasn't taken until the fourth round. I think they kept waiting for one of their choices to fall to them in the round they had him slotted for, rather than going and getting a guy they liked. Poor execution.

 

[mattjames2010]

We should have moved up in the 4th and grabbed Buck Allen, everything on film shows he is a perfect fit for our offensive scheme. No surprise the Ravens drafted him, they have an eye for talent and will get the best out of him. Sadly, we went for yet another LB. I didn't like Ajayi in the second or third round, but in the late fourth? He was absolutely worth it over a small LB.

There is no question, in my mind, that the Cowboys made a mistake in the second and fourth rounds passing on the RB position.

 

[Awakened]

Langford is a spare. Sounds like any warm body will do for you.

Notice you didn't comment on Buck Allen. Lots of people like Langford, but Allen's the guy I wanted if we couldn't get Coleman.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Notice you didn't comment on Buck Allen. Lots of people like Langford, but Allen's the guy I wanted if we couldn't get Coleman.

I liked Dave Johnson. I'm still not trading picks and being desperate for him.

 

[Awakened]

I liked Dave Johnson. I'm still not trading picks and being desperate for him.

The bottom line is that if they REALLY thought we needed a back, they would've gotten one they liked. It wasn't a priority. Many people, myself included, think that was a mistake. We shall see. I can honestly say I hope I'm wrong. But I'm really frustrated they sat on their hands and didn't get a back who could help this team next season.

 

[Va_BoysFan4 Life]

I personally like the idea of not grabbing a back after Coleman was gone. Just think they have 2 first rounders on the roster at the position Do you think any of the lower round backs could actually unseat them. They must feel strongly about Williams to sign him to a two year contract. I'm comfortable with rb by committee.

 

[mattjames2010]

I personally like the idea of not grabbing a back after Coleman was gone. Just think they have 2 first rounders on the roster at the position Do you think any of the lower round backs could actually unseat them. They must feel strongly about Williams to sign him to a two year contract. I'm comfortable with rb by committee.

Ryan Williams was a second rounder, but even then, hasn't had a productive season since he was a freshman in college. Darren McFadden is considered a bust by many, never came close to living up to his top 5 selection. Both are incredibly injury prone.

So, do I think a 4th round RB can unseat them? Yes, because neither McFadden or Williams are true first/second round talents.

 

[Kaiser]

So did the rest of the league. He was considered the best defensive player in that draft by everyone not just the Cowboys.

Claiborne also had a solid rookie season, something not many CBs do. People always forget that.

 

[Va_BoysFan4 Life]

Ryan Williams was a second rounder, but even then, hasn't had a productive season since he was a freshman in college. Darren McFadden is considered a bust by many, never came close to living up to his top 5 selection. Both are incredibly injury prone.

So, do I think a 4th round RB can unseat them? Yes, because neither McFadden or Williams are true first/second round talents.

Correction on Williams draft status ........ I believe the change of location, the quality of the line and more so the success of the offense, McFadden can and will have a success season. No he's not going to give 1800 yards, however if healthy ( remember Murray never could stay healthy either) he is capable of being a feature back with Randle and William as viable complementary back ups. I am just saying, the team is not in dire straights as some think.

 

[Awakened]

Ryan Williams was a second rounder, but even then, hasn't had a productive season since he was a freshman in college. Darren McFadden is considered a bust by many, never came close to living up to his top 5 selection. Both are incredibly injury prone.

So, do I think a 4th round RB can unseat them? Yes, because neither McFadden or Williams are true first/second round talents.

Exactly. Bottom line is I think there were several backs in this draft better than anybody on our roster. Apparently the Cowboys didn't think so. Or, if they did, they screwed up and didn't get one of them. Either way, we'll see how this plays out.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Guys, there will be backs available to us in FA if we want to sign somebody. We let the draft come to us and I think that was wise. I would have liked to have drafted a few of these backs but it didn't happen. It's not the end of the world.