We've only drafted 3 QB's since 1991?

Teague31

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Stolen from the mother ship. I couldn't believe it when I read it. Just crazy!

1991- bill musgrave
2001- Quincy carter
2009- Stephen McGee.
 

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Teague31;5038419 said:
Stolen from the mother ship. I couldn't believe it when I read it. Just crazy!

1991- bill musgrave
2001- Quincy carter
2009- Stephen McGee.

That's pretty remarkable. That's a long time!
 

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Thats ridiculous.

QB's are so valuable to have. You draft a guy and develop him for yourself, or trade him for a draft pick or two.

Teams will give up picks for QB's. Thank you Cleveland for trading us a 1st for Brady Quinn.
 

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funkytown;5038434 said:
Thats ridiculous.

QB's are so valuable to have. You draft a guy and develop him for yourself, or trade him for a draft pick or two.

Teams will give up picks for QB's. Thank you Cleveland for trading us a 1st for Brady Quinn.
It's not ridiculous in Jerry's world. it's all ways about the now with him. the hell with what happens down the line to his team. it's all about now.so he holds on to the same rag tag team and gets for the most part the same results every year.
 

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cowboyvic;5038444 said:
It's not ridiculous in Jerry's world. it's all ways about the now with him. the hell with what happens down the line to his team. it's all about now.so he holds on to the same rag tag team and gets for the most part the same results every year.

:horse:
 

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I kind of like the way the packers took a few guys over the span of 2006 and 2008 even if they had already taken Rodgers.

I think the team should take a guy low round every draft. Keep one guy on the roster and the other on the practice squad. You have 2 years to show enough improvement to avoid getting bumped off by the next guy coming in.
 

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Teague31;5038419 said:
Stolen from the mother ship. I couldn't believe it when I read it. Just crazy!

1991- bill musgrave
2001- Quincy carter
2009- Stephen McGee.

Although I think there are reasons behind this (such as development time), Dallas clearly needs to address the position in the draft.

I would certainly have no problem with a QB being taken in the later half of this draft. Groomed for a couple of years in the third role and then elevated to the primary backup while another quarterback is drafted for the third role.
 

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Hoofbite;5038453 said:
I kind of like the way the packers took a few guys over the span of 2006 and 2008 even if they had already taken Rodgers.

I think the team should take a guy low round every draft. Keep one guy on the roster and the other on the practice squad. You have 2 years to show enough improvement to avoid getting bumped off by the next guy coming in.

They've drafted qbs for a while. Brunell, hassleback, brooks, ect.
 

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Teague31;5038419 said:
Stolen from the mother ship. I couldn't believe it when I read it. Just crazy!

1991- bill musgrave
2001- Quincy carter
2009- Stephen McGee.

The QB position is not that important :D
 

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why did you pick 91, why not since 89 then you could see we drafted both walsh and aikman. I have to believe that drafting a QB is high risk, high reward and this front office cannot evaluate qb talent good enough to risk high draft picks.
 

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jrumann59;5038490 said:
why did you pick 91, why not since 89 then you could see we drafted both walsh and aikman. I have to believe that drafting a QB is high risk, high reward and this front office cannot evaluate qb talent good enough to risk high draft picks.

This front office can't evaluate anything well enough. Welcome to the problem.
 

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jrumann59;5038490 said:
why did you pick 91, why not since 89 then you could see we drafted both walsh and aikman. I have to believe that drafting a QB is high risk, high reward and this front office cannot evaluate qb talent good enough to risk high draft picks.

It's still unacceptable even if you do include those draft picks.
 

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Double Trouble;5038491 said:
What Cowboys topic hasn't been :horse: ?

None.

It wasn't about the topic. I would have quoted the OP if that were the case.
 

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Look at our track record at drafting qbs. No wonder why we signed tony until he's almost 40. Damn.
 

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JonJon;5038515 said:
It's still unacceptable even if you do include those draft picks.

Why isn't it acceptable? We see a few teams (two that I can think of) that had success in drafting back up QBs-- The Packers and Patriots. The funny thing is that success is counted as SPENDING a valuable draft pick, USING resources to develop that pick and then trade the player to get a better draft pick. That is a lot of work and time to HOPE to get a net gain in the draft.

How often has this happened across the league since 1991? Across all 32 teams? What is the actual success rate for doing this? It's pretty low, I can tell you that.

My thinking is that picking a QB when you have your QB locked in stone for over is a waste of time and resources. If a great talent has somehow dropped in the draft significantly, I can see the reasoning behind it (increased odds), but that doesn't happen too often. If it's not the case, then why WASTE a pick when we could get a player that could do well for us?

The people complaining that we don't draft enough QBs are the same complaining that we wasted a pick on McGee. Can't have it both ways and the truth is that MOST QBs taken in the later rounds fail. Some may argue that we need to do better at evaluating and then draft a QB who will be successful. How dense do you have to be to think that's an easy job? It's got to be some sort of blindness to think that only the Cowboys have trouble projecting QBs and the other teams have it down.

Here's a list of the Steeler's QB picks since 1991. They have picked more QBs than anyone over that time.

2008 (5) Dennis Dixon 2008 = Failed
2006 (5) Omar Jacobs = Failed
2004 (1) Ben Roethlisberger = Success
2003 (5) Brian St. Pierre = Failed
2000 (5) Tee Martin = Failed
1996 (6) Spence Fischer = Failed
1995 (2) Kordell Stewart = Success
1994 (6) Jim Miller = Failed
1993 (8) Alex Van Pelt = Failed
1992 (12) Cornelius Benton =Failed

That's 8 out of 10 wasted draft picks. Only Rothlisberger and Stewart can be considered successes for the Steelers. Aside from those two, only Jim MIller and Alex Van Pelt even played for a reasonable time in the NFL. Both were cut by the Steelers...they got NOTHING out of them.

We have needs on this team. This year, QB is not one of them.
 

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I don't know about using first round picks on QBs anymore unless you know they will be a starter relatively soon. Especially in recent years where practically all first rounders have started within the first year or two. We just weren't in the QB market till the early 2000s when Troy Aikman was here. Then we haven't really been in looking for a QB since Romo took over 6 or so years ago.
 

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jrumann59;5038490 said:
why did you pick 91, why not since 89 then you could see we drafted both walsh and aikman. I have to believe that drafting a QB is high risk, high reward and this front office cannot evaluate qb talent good enough to risk high draft picks.

I think that the point was, since we drafted Aikman with a high pick, we've done little in terms of replenishing the position? Jerry has never had a long-term plan for this team and has hung on to the two talented QB's others have brought him, with death-grip urgency for over 20 years. Rather than plan for their replacements, he holds (will hold) onto them past their expiration date, seldom wasting assets on their replacement while he could win big or at least keep people buying tickets in the current season.
 

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funkytown;5038434 said:
Thats ridiculous.

QB's are so valuable to have. You draft a guy and develop him for yourself, or trade him for a draft pick or two.

Teams will give up picks for QB's. Thank you Cleveland for trading us a 1st for Brady Quinn.

Anybody can draft quarterbacks...Commanders prove that.

1990 Cary Conklin
1992 Chris Hakel
1994 Heath Shuler
1994 Gus Frerotte
2000 Todd Husak
2001 Sage Rosenfels
2003 Gibram Hamdan
2005 Jason Campbell
2007 Jordon Palmer
2008 Colt Brennan
2012 Robert Griffin III
2012 Kirk Cousins

It's drafting the RIGHT quarterback and having the coaching and players to help that QB develop that's important.
 
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