What about the Oline??

[DCBoysfan]

Notice how there are not any threads about the Oline. I know it has alot to do with Tony Romo. But last year every third thread it seems, was about the tackles. It feels good to watch a game and not worry about WHEN one of the tackles was going to get beat.

 

[burmafrd]

A nimble QB makes a big difference. BUT they are still below average run blocking and RIvera is getting owned more and more.

 

[dbair1967]

A nimble QB makes a big difference. BUT they are still below average run blocking and RIvera is getting owned more and more.

agree 100%

David

 

[Canadian BoyzFan]

The O-line is no longer our biggest weakness. However, this group is average at best. Our playoff success is in the hands of the Oline and 2 Safety positions.

If they play lights out we can beat anyone.
This team is 1 year away.... imo

 

[DCBoysfan]

The O-line is no longer our biggest weakness. However, this group is average at best. Our playoff success is in the hands of the Oline and 2 Safety positions.

If they play lights out we can beat anyone.
This team is 1 year away.... imo

You could be right, but once the playoffs begin anything can happen on any given Sun.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Rivera is a real problem. I think the rest of the line is good enough to allow this team to be a super bowl contender.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

The O-line is no longer our biggest weakness. However, this group is average at best. Our playoff success is in the hands of the Oline and 2 Safety positions.

If they play lights out we can beat anyone.
This team is 1 year away.... imo

I would say it's as much with the ability of the linebackers to cover guys in the flat and starting d-line to get any sort of pressure what-so-ever on QBs.

 

[Cowboyz88]

I think the O-Line IS still a problem.

If not for Romo's nifty side-steps, he'd be getting nailed - look at Bledsoe. Romo's ability to avoid the pressure masks the fact that there's still way too much pressure.

As mentioned, Rivera is getting owned, and if not for some great spins, jukes and power, Barber wouldn't be getting the yards he's getting. In other words, he's creating yards because the line stinks.

Also, we all know that J Jones usually goes down at first contact which is why his yards are getting fewer, because again, the line stinks.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I think the O-Line IS still a problem.

If not for Romo's nifty side-steps, he'd be getting nailed - look at Bledsoe. Romo's ability to avoid the pressure masks the fact that there's still way too much pressure.

As mentioned, Rivera is getting owned, and if not for some great spins, jukes and power, Barber wouldn't be getting the yards he's getting. In other words, he's creating yards because the line stinks.

Also, we all know that J Jones usually goes down at first contact which is why his yards are getting fewer, because again, the line stinks.

"stinks?"


Wow.


You don't think Bledsore wouldn't turn ANY offensive line into a sack-fest?

This team will be second in the NFL in scoring by the end of tomorrow. I can't accept the "stinks" line of reasoning.

 

[Eddie]

OL ...

Surprised in the play of:
- Colombo
- Gurode

Playing well:
- Kosier

Below expectations:
- Flo

Needs replacement:
- Rivera


I think our immediate goal for 2007 is to find a new RG. We may want to start thinking of Flo's eventual replacement also.

Let's not start any Proctor or McQ threads either. They're nothing but 2nd and 3rd stringers.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

OL ...

Surprised in the play of:
- Colombo
- Gurode

Playing well:
- Kosier

Below expectations:
- Flo

Needs replacement:
- Rivera


I think our immediate goal for 2007 is to find a new RG. We may want to start thinking of Flo's eventual replacement also.

Let's not start any Proctor or McQ threads either. They're nothing but 2nd and 3rd stringers.

I would agree with most of that.

The only two points I would disagree with is the one about Adams. I'm not sure the expectations weren't too high considering the type of injury he was trying to come back from.

And I disagree with the Proctor & McQ thoughts. At the end of 2004 we would have said that Romo was no more than a 2nd or 3rd stringer.

Eddie, the fact is some of these guys needs time to develop. I certainly wouldn't expect someone like McQ to step in out of Montana State and out-play Flozell Adams in his first training camp.

I think we need to be a little patient with both. You can't go out and sign high-priced free agents to fix every position on the team. You have to develop from within.

Last week you were talking about drafting another first day QB to challenge Romo because you obviously felt Romo wasn't going to make it. Well last night he (again) topped the century mark in his passer rating.

Patience Eddie, patience.

 

[Eddie]

And I disagree with the Proctor & McQ thoughts. At the end of 2004 we would have said that Romo was no more than a 2nd or 3rd stringer.

Eddie, the fact is some of these guys needs time to develop. I certainly wouldn't expect someone like McQ to step in out of Montana State and out-play Flozell Adams in his first training camp.

I think we need to be a little patient with both. You can't go out and sign high-priced free agents to fix every position on the team. You have to develop from within.

Last week you were talking about drafting another first day QB to challenge Romo because you obviously felt Romo wasn't going to make it. Well last night he (again) topped the century mark in his passer rating.

Patience Eddie, patience.

I agree we should show patience in developing Proctor and McQ ... but the fact remains, we're going to need immediate help in 2007. I don't think we need to go the high priced FA route. Perhaps there may even be some serviceable FA's available for a decent price as the young guns develop.

I also think drafting an OG an OT wouldn't be a bad idea. Nothing wrong with bringing in young talent.

As for the QB, I think if a decent one falls to us, we should bite in the draft. Look at Delhomme. Two years ago, he was the talk of the town in Pantherland. Word has it, he won't be back next year ... whether due to injury or lack of production. They're left with Chris Weinke to man the ship.

I think we need out butts covered in the QB area. Romo is all we have. The ship is sunk if he's hurt for an extended period of time. If BP brings in Vinny T next year, I'm going to flip a major conniption.

 

[sago1]

One of the first orders of business once the playoffs are over is to resign those Cowboy players we wish to retain: At OL we need to resign Gurode (he's only 26) whose been our best OL in his first full season at center and also Colombo has done pretty good at RT & he's also finishing out his first full season as a starting RT. Riveria has not been the player we hoped for & his injuries/age hasn't helped. Hopefully his 07 cap hit will still allow us to sign a good young FA RG who can step in immediately & bring improved play to that side of the OL. In 07 Adams will be in last year of his 5 year contract & no doubt returns as our starting LT but we must ensure we have a viable successor on board to replace him. Hopefully Cowboys will draft an OT on the first day (rather then wait til last round) who looks decent in TC. We also need make sure that we have viable backups. Apparently backup OG Proctor isn't good enough to replace Riveria, so we need an upgrade there as well. Frankly I'd like to see some serious attention given by this team to the OL & significant players brought in.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I agree we should show patience in developing Proctor and McQ ... but the fact remains, we're going to need immediate help in 2007. I don't think we need to go the high priced FA route. Perhaps there may even be some serviceable FA's available for a decent price as the young guns develop.

I also think drafting an OG an OT wouldn't be a bad idea. Nothing wrong with bringing in young talent.

As for the QB, I think if a decent one falls to us, we should bite in the draft. Look at Delhomme. Two years ago, he was the talk of the town in Pantherland. Word has it, he won't be back next year ... whether due to injury or lack of production. They're left with Chris Weinke to man the ship.

I think we need out butts covered in the QB area. Romo is all we have. The ship is sunk if he's hurt for an extended period of time. If BP brings in Vinny T next year, I'm going to flip a major conniption.

Hey, I have no problems covering our rears. But I think there are more pressing issues at this point (draft wise). NT, WR depth and Corner is starting to be a pressing issue for me. Not too mention another pass rusher seems necessary.

I could see us drafting a QB in day 2... but not day 1.

And I agree another O-lineman after round 1 would be find by me.

 

[canters]

OL ...

Surprised in the play of:
- Colombo
- Gurode

Playing well:
- Kosier

Below expectations:
- Flo

Needs replacement:
- Rivera


I think our immediate goal for 2007 is to find a new RG. We may want to start thinking of Flo's eventual replacement also.

Let's not start any Proctor or McQ threads either. They're nothing but 2nd and 3rd stringers.

Nice post...I predict Marco is gone after the season. IF Flo can regain his pre-injury status, and we can get a good FA signee (Steinbach will be too expensive ), we will be better off.

Kosier is better in the run game than the pass game, but an upgrado over LA.

 

[Jimz31]

Romo, with his mobility is masking our weaknesses on the o-line.

We are still terrible at run-blocking.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Romo, with his mobility is masking our weaknesses on the o-line.

We are still terrible at run-blocking.

I disagree with that Jimz.


I see one back out there finding holes and making yards.


I see another out there that doesn't move to the hole and instead consistently finds "the pile" and like a "body magnet" launches himself into it and falls down.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

A nimble QB makes a big difference. BUT they are still below average run blocking and RIvera is getting owned more and more.

Are they getting pushed too far back and allowing Tony's passes to be tipped?

 

[jrumann59]

Our secondary does need help depth wise but a good pass rush will help our good secondary. Everyone expects our DB's to cover all day long while opposing QB's sit back there and eat a sandwich while waiting for a guy to come open.

 

[Jimz31]

I disagree with that Jimz.


I see one back out there finding holes and making yards.


I see another out there that doesn't move to the hole and instead consistently finds "the pile" and like a "body magnet" launches himself into it and falls down.

We have a line that CAN'T block between the 20's. Even when Barber gets some carries between the 20's he's not as effetive as he is when we are closer to the o-line. All line's run-block better closer to the goal line. Ours does NOT run-block good outside of the 20. Go and look at the tape.