What Ever Happened To The Two TE Offense?

[Doomsdayblitz]

For the life of me, I don't get it. Isn't that why we spent a very valuable 2nd rd. pick for Anthony Fasano? When I first read about the two TE offense, it just made sense. So, what happened to it?

Here is why I feel it is critical to reinstate the two TE offense:

Running Game-The TE can go in motion on every play to open up the running game. He can stop at or near the OC for between the OT plays, or go wider to block for wider runs. He can even act like he's going to stop at the OC, then, at the snap, spin around toward the way the play is going, and go wide the opposite direction he was motioning toward. Putting the TE in motion not only creates doubt in the defense, it gives him additional momentum going into his blocks.

Passing Game- By going in motion, the TE can stop at mid-line & stuff any stunts or blitzs coming up the middle, (which every team in the NFL knows is the place to go!). He can also back up at the snap, and cover more area in his blitz protection. Going in motion also frees him up from LBs hitting him in the 5 yd. area, knocking him off his route.

This team has got to find a way to protect its QB. The first & best way is a potent running game. The second way is to have an extra player, (the TE) in on passing downs, protecting the middle of the line. Another way would be to start rotating offensive linemen who have not been doing their job. If they see someone else coming in for them half the time, maybe they will find a way to hold their blocks more than a millisecond. Also, maybe they will block the last guy at the end of the line of scrimmage, if they are an OT-Marc Columbo!

I hope enough of you saw that it makes little difference who the QB is when the OL allows a jail break every other play. It is what forced DB to throw ints. & it is what forced TR to do the same thing. I swear, if you change the uniforms, you would have thought you were watching tapes of the Iggles game. It will be the same scenario next game unless we find a way to stop it. A two TE system could be a start.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

This is a gimmick offense - nothing more. It is used by teams that don't have WR depth, so instead of playing a 3-WR/1-TE sets, they play 2-WR/2-TE stes. When your WRs are average at best and you have no depth then the 2-TE set is your best chance.

Defensive secondaries are at an advantage when you run a 2-TE set because they can double-cover both WRs - the 2 TE's are lft for the LBs to cover.

But if you have 3 WRs (and we do in T.O. Glenn and Crayton) then why use a 2nd TE as part of your base offense, giving hte secondary the advantage in taking away both T.O. and Glenn?

Have you noticed also that in the last tow games we have had some good scoring drives? Have you also nitced that part of those drives involved Crayton making passes? That's because on those drives we went away from the 2-TEs back to 3 WRs and the secondaries dodn't know who to cover.

Also, many may think that we were running 2-TEs to hewlp Bledsoe, but it was Bledsoe throwing TDs when we went with 3 WRs in the Houston game. And even Romo struglled with the passing offense until we went away from 2 TEs to 3 WRs. So based on that the argument that the 2 TE offense was installed to help an imoble QB does not hold. It is a sub-par offense, and the couches should have known better than to install it - putting more empahsis on a green rookie TE (Fassano) over an emerging veteran, who happens to be a better all around WR (Crayton).

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[kTXe]

This is a gimmick offense - nothing more. It is used by teams that don't have WR depth, so instead of playing a 3-WR/1-TE sets, they play 2-WR/2-TE stes. When your WRs are average at best and you have no depth then the 2-TE set is your best chance.

Hmmm...the Colts and their 2 TE offense seem to disagree.

 

[Rampage]

good move releaseing our fullback. our backs couldn't block lastnight either

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

This is a gimmick offense - nothing more. It is used by teams that don't have WR depth, so instead of playing a 3-WR/1-TE sets, they play 2-WR/2-TE stes. When your WRs are average at best and you have no depth then the 2-TE set is your best chance.

Defensive secondaries are at an advantage when you run a 2-TE set because they can double-cover both WRs - the 2 TE's are lft for the LBs to cover.

But if you have 3 WRs (and we do in T.O. Glenn and Crayton) then why use a 2nd TE as part of your base offense, giving hte secondary the advantage in taking away both T.O. and Glenn?

Have you noticed also that in the last tow games we have had some good scoring drives? Have you also nitced that part of those drives involved Crayton making passes? That's because on those drives we went away from the 2-TEs back to 3 WRs and the secondaries dodn't know who to cover.

Also, many may think that we were running 2-TEs to hewlp Bledsoe, but it was Bledsoe throwing TDs when we went with 3 WRs in the Houston game. And even Romo struglled with the passing offense until we went away from 2 TEs to 3 WRs. So based on that the argument that the 2 TE offense was installed to help an imoble QB does not hold. It is a sub-par offense, and the couches should have known better than to install it - putting more empahsis on a green rookie TE (Fassano) over an emerging veteran, who happens to be a better all around WR (Crayton).

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I beg to differ. For one thing, with a TE in motion, it gives him an even greater advantage against the LB. Secondly, once the secondary sees the LBs getting burned constantly by the TEs, then they will lay off one of the WRs, and guard the motion TE with a Safety.

By the way, I also remember that Bledsoe & Romo also got creamed & threw a ton of ints. while we were using the 3 WR set.

There is no way we can continue to use the 3 WR set with an offensive line as offensive as ours. Man, we are so bad that the ball got hit while DB was trying to throw after a flea-flicker!! Now, that's BAD protection!!!

Owens was wide open on that play, but what good does it do if you can't get him the ball?? If we would have had two TEs in there, it would have been easier to sell the flea-flicker, because it would have actually looked like a run.

 

[AdamJT13]

This is a gimmick offense - nothing more. It is used by teams that don't have WR depth, so instead of playing a 3-WR/1-TE sets, they play 2-WR/2-TE stes. When your WRs are average at best and you have no depth then the 2-TE set is your best chance.

Hello? The second tight end doesn't replace a receiver, he replaces a fullback. Instead of two WR, one TE, one FB and one RB, it's two WR, two TE and one RB. The TE can line up like a fullback and block or line up like a WR and go out for a pass, or he can line up like a TE and do either one.

And in case nobody noticed, our offense has been very successful this season when we haven't been throwing interceptions. We're No. 5 in points per game, yards per game, first downs per game, rushing yards per game and time of possession, No. 4 in third-down conversions, No. 8 in yards per rush, No. 1 in rushing touchdowns and No. 4 in passing touchdowns. If we'd quit throwing interceptions that cost us points, give the other teams points or both, we'd be one of the best offenses in the league.

 

[proline]

Hello? The second tight end doesn't replace a receiver, he replaces a fullback. Instead of two WR, one TE, one FB and one RB, it's two WR, two TE and one RB. The TE can line up like a fullback and block or line up like a WR and go out for a pass, or he can line up like a TE and do either one.

And in case nobody noticed, our offense has been very successful this season when we haven't been throwing interceptions. We're No. 5 in points per game, yards per game, first downs per game, rushing yards per game and time of possession, No. 4 in third-down conversions, No. 8 in yards per rush, No. 1 in rushing touchdowns and No. 4 in passing touchdowns. If we'd quit throwing interceptions that cost us points, give the other teams points or both, we'd be one of the best offenses in the league.

Don't confuse everybody with facts, Adam....

 

[Cowboy4ever]

I think with TR in the game, you saw more of what the 2 TE set can bring. The reason it hasn't been effective that much was we were leaving the TE in to block. With Romo, it frees up the TE to release, because of his mobility. Now make no mistake about it, if Romo stays the starter,, it will be a tough year ahead.. but at least it will be fun.

 

[big dog cowboy]

good move releaseing our fullback. our backs couldn't block lastnight either

He rarely played.