What happened to Butler?

[SLATEmosphere]

He gets a few snaps and makes the most of it.

Yet he is MIA.

What the hell is going on?

 

[CCBoy]

Maybe, he has to first earn the starting position to get more time....and pulling for a 'rook' doesn't mean he has to earn it. Three plays were great, but that hardly means he should be there in crunch time unless the starters need rotation....he's still a role player. Probably will be for two to three years.

 

[Ichill2]

I agree Butler should be getting more time..Barbie Carpenter has been there for years and still stinks. Butler has made big plays this year than Barbie. It doesn't matter if you are a rookie..If you can make plays you should be on the field..

 

[heir]

As well as Spencer is playing, you really want him off the field for Butler?

 

[Hostile]

No one learns from the Troy Hambrick lessons. I can't figure out why that is. Guy makes a play or two and people are convinced he is the 2nd coming of Greg Lloyd. He'll develop. At the team's own speed. Good grief.

 

[Kilyin]

At this point he's just a third down pass rusher, but he has made some impact plays with the small amount of snaps he's gotten.

 

[dmq]

So he makes an impact or he is MIA?

 

[Doomsay]

A Fathead could outplay barbie right now - so it's a valid question regarding Butler... Butler.... Butler... or any other warm body on the bench.

Think that he was injured a few games ago.

 

[Bach]

Better yet: Where's Jason Williams? I thought I heard he was going to be a force before the year was out. It just doesn't add up. I mean, Jerry refuses to draft WR's early because they supposedly can't contribute right away. But apparently we can draft LB's and other positions who don't contribute right away, if at all. hmmm.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

A Fathead could outplay barbie right now - so it's a valid question regarding Butler... Butler.... Butler... or any other warm body on the bench.

Think that he was injured a few games ago.

Butler in for Carpenter does not work because they play different LB positions.

Butler has been getting some ST time, did people forget he was the one that had the holding call during a return?

I would imagine He will get his time down the road if he continues to do well.

 

[iceberg]

No one learns from the Troy Hambrick lessons. I can't figure out why that is. Guy makes a play or two and people are convinced he is the 2nd coming of Greg Lloyd. He'll develop. At the team's own speed. Good grief.

hey - choice had a great game last december - so he's ready to roll now, ya know?

it's the IGS syndrome. what they last saw it all it can ever be.

very annoying.

 

[JBond]

No one learns from the Troy Hambrick lessons. I can't figure out why that is. Guy makes a play or two and people are convinced he is the 2nd coming of Greg Lloyd. He'll develop. At the team's own speed. Good grief.

I have no idea why people believe Butler can handle all the responsibilities an OLB has and do as well as Spencer does on an every down basis. Butler appears to be a one trick pony at this point. Not that he can't be very good with time, but it kind of reminds me of people wanting to start RB's that can't block. We need sound fundamentals play after play. Spencer is the better player if you consider the big picture, in my opinion.

 

[JBond]

Better yet: Where's Jason Williams? I thought I heard he was going to be a force before the year was out. It just doesn't add up. I mean, Jerry refuses to draft WR's early because they supposedly can't contribute right away. But apparently we can draft LB's and other positions who don't contribute right away, if at all. hmmm.

We can't draft LB's? Care to rethink that statement?

 

[Bach]

We can't draft LB's? Care to rethink that statement?

Care to re-read my post?

 

[zrinkill]

We can't draft LB's? Care to rethink that statement?

Its Bach ..... he will say anything to discredit Jerry.

 

[JBond]

But apparently we can draft LB's and other positions who don't contribute right away, if at all. hmmm.

We can't draft LB's? Care to rethink that statement?

Care to re-read my post?

Drafted by the Cowboys and started early in their career. James, Ware and Spencer. Are you only singling out the past draft? What about all the starting LB's we drafted? Did you just forget about them?

Oh well.

 

[Bach]

Drafted by the Cowboys and started early in their career. James, Ware and Spencer. Are you only singling out the past draft? What about all the starting LB's we drafted? Did you just forget about them?

Oh well.

It's been repeated said over the last few years by Jerry that we don't draft WR's high because they can't contribute immediately.

But where's Jason Williams this year? Bradie James who you mentioned took 2-3 years to develop, how about Carpenter?

All my point was is that we don't negate drafting LB's if some don't start and contribute immediately, so why have we done that with the WR position?

 

[JBond]

It's been repeated said over the last few years by Jerry that we don't draft WR's high because they can't contribute immediately.

But where's Jason Williams this year? Bradie James who you mentioned took 2-3 years to develop, how about Carpenter?

All my point was is that we don't negate drafting LB's if some don't start and contribute immediately, so why have we done that with the WR position?

productivity vs cost. Simple really. Go back and look at all the WR's drafted in the top 15 (not that we draft that low often) but the boom vs bust leans heavily to the bust side. Not so much at some other positions. At least that is my understanding of it.

 

[Bach]

productivity vs cost. Simple really. Go back and look at all the WR's drafted in the top 15 (not that we draft that low often) but the boom vs bust leans heavily to the bust side. Not so much at some other positions. At least that is my understanding of it.

But it's not just the first round. From 1994-present, we've drafted ONE WR in round one or two. That was Antonio Bryant late in the 2nd round in '02. There's only been 1 or 2 drafted during that time period in the 3rd round.

But I've seen plenty of WR's drafted in the first three rounds over the last 15 years that have excelled. I've also seen plenty of players at positions other than WR who have become busts. Busts aren't exclusive to WR. It's just odd to say WR can't be drafted on day one because they may become a bust or not contribute early, yet we can draft guys at other positions who take 1-2 years or longer, if ever, to develop and contribute.

 

[JBond]

But it's not just the first round. From 1994-present, we've drafted ONE WR in round one or two. That was Antonio Bryant late in the 2nd round in '02. There's only been 1 or 2 drafted during that time period in the 3rd round.

But I've seen plenty of WR's drafted in the first three rounds over the last 15 years that have excelled. I've also seen plenty of players at positions other than WR who have become busts. Busts aren't exclusive to WR. It's just odd to say WR can't be drafted on day one because they may become a bust or not contribute early, yet we can draft guys at other positions who take 1-2 years or longer, if ever, to develop and contribute.

I am all for drafting a WR early if that is the best player available and there is a least some need. For example, I am not sure we need to draft a WR next year over an O-lineman or corner in the first couple of rounds. Every year that is going to change. Have to admit the one WR since 1994 stat is interesting if accurate.