What has happened with Carpenter this offseason

[nathanlt]

How has Carpenter looked in the preseason games? Is he doing ok?

 

[SultanOfSix]

1st round bust. Cut him now!!!

From what little I've seen of him, I just don't think he has "it".

 

[roughneck266]

1st round bust. Cut him now!!!

From what little I've seen of him, I just don't think he has "it".

:laugh2:

 

[Rack]

He's ok, but he just doesn't have enough moxie.

 

[The Realist]

He's a bust like Roy, Newman and James and Burnett were at one time or another if you ask the bedwetters.

 

[Wood]

lets not forget drafting Carpenter was seen by many analyst as a "safe" pick by dallas. Meaning he doesn't possess dominate skills but rather should be steady and productive. I think some are waiting for him to "explode" on the scene and I just dont think that is going to happen. Carpenter was not dominate at Ohio State. I think you will see him play more later in the year and should be steady for years to come.

 

[The30YardSlant]

If only he had Quincy's poise, Chutch's awareness, and Ryan Leaf's attitude and desire, THEN we'd have ourselves a Hell of a player

Wait.....

 

[theogt]

Greg Ellis.

 

[EastDallasCowboy]

As was said above, he wasn't thought to be a stud in the draft. He was seen as above average, but not amazing. He's not a Demarcus Ware type where the sky is the limit, but he's a Greg Ellis type that should be solid.

 

[Manster68]

Look folks,

Carpenter is learning a new position as he was moved inside. He was moved inside because it looks as if the Ellis project is working very nicely.

Remember, Bradie James is in his fourth season and Akin Ayodele is in his fifth. Both of those players have significant experience playing inside and they have been very productive.

One last thing to remember - the better this team gets, the harder it is for first year players to crack the starting lineup. So Carpenter not starting is actually a very good sign that the quality of talent on this team is vastly improving.

When it is imperative that your draft picks MUST start right away should tell you that your favorite team isn't very good.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

3-4 is built on the LB's. You can never have enough quality LBs to run this scheme. Parcells is simply adding to that. I dont think he foresaw Ellis being as good as he has been at OLB, and last year, that was a position of concern for us. The opposition knew that Ware was coming every time, and that sort of defeats one of the main reasons to run the 3-4 in the first place (hide the 4 rusher).

Carpenter was not flashy in what I saw of him at Ohio State. And I also don't think he will be flashy at this level, but if he is above average, and does his job, chipping in with a few big plays here and there that's good enough. He's not a DeMarcus Ware/Merriman type guy. Those dudes are rare.

Considering how many 1st round picks amount to nothing, if we get solid or "safe" production from him, that's not half bad. The Pats had alot of above average LBs when they were winning, guys who didn't make mistakes, came up with big plays every so often, and went about their business. Offense is execution, defense is discipline.

 

[JackMagist]

How has Carpenter looked in the preseason games? Is he doing ok?

Ellis developed at the OLB spot so well that we no longer needed Carpenter for that spot. Also, Parcells realized that Carpenter was better suited for the inside than the outside (something many scouts had said before the draft) so he moved him inside. We already had James inside at the Mike and had already brought in a FA (Ayodele) to play the Jack position so Carpenter finds himself at the number two spot behind Ayodele. He is playing in nickel situations and a few special packages.

 

[ZeroClub]

Look folks,

Carpenter is learning a new position as he was moved inside. He was moved inside because it looks as if the Ellis project is working very nicely.

Is that the whole story? Ellis played a role, but my impression of reports from training camp were that Carpenter didn't look as good playing outside LB as inside LB. I could be wrong though.

Remember, Bradie James is in his fourth season and Akin Ayodele is in his fifth. Both of those players have significant experience playing inside and they have been very productive.

One last thing to remember - the better this team gets, the harder it is for first year players to crack the starting lineup. So Carpenter not starting is actually a very good sign that the quality of talent on this team is vastly improving.

When it is imperative that your draft picks MUST start right away should tell you that your favorite team isn't very good.

I think that's a great point.

 

[JackMagist]

Look folks,

Carpenter is learning a new position as he was moved inside. He was moved inside because it looks as if the Ellis project is working very nicely.

Remember, Bradie James is in his fourth season and Akin Ayodele is in his fifth. Both of those players have significant experience playing inside and they have been very productive.

One last thing to remember - the better this team gets, the harder it is for first year players to crack the starting lineup. So Carpenter not starting is actually a very good sign that the quality of talent on this team is vastly improving.

When it is imperative that your draft picks MUST start right away should tell you that your favorite team isn't very good.

I agree with your post and they are all excellent points. One thing though...didn't Ayodele play outside for the Jags? He is also learning a new position. But of course he still has far more experience and is a more mature Pro Football player in general than Carpenter. Nothing against Carpenter; I think he will have that job soon enough.

 

[Mash]

from what ive seen and heard.....Carpenter is doing okay.....I expected more from a 1st round draft pick in all honesty but it seems our LB position is loaded.

Give him a few years before we lable it a bad pick.

 

[Luther]

Ellis and Ware are going to get some sacks this year. Quite a few. And we're probably going to get burned a couple of times.

But the many drive-stopping sacks that we get will be more helpful than the few long plays we give up.

 

[Manster68]

I agree with your post and they are all excellent points. One thing though...didn't Ayodele play outside for the Jags? He is also learning a new position. But of course he still has far more experience and is a more mature Pro Football player in general than Carpenter. Nothing against Carpenter; I think he will have that job soon enough.

I though he played both Jack.

 

[JackMagist]

I though he played both Jack.

He may have; I don't pay a lot of attention to the Jags except when we play them. But I've only ever heard them talk about him on the outside...maybe because that was what he was playing last year.

 

[Qwickdraw]

Everyone here seems to be responding sarcastically but so far, he's been invisible.

 

[JackMagist]

Everyone here seems to be responding sarcastically but so far, he's been invisible.

I wouldn't say invisible but he certainly hasn't exploded on the scene. I still think he will be a good player for us for a long while to come once he gets it rolling. I think he will be kinda like Bradie James; I was ready to dump him after two years but he has come around and made a pretty good player for us.