What I think went wrong

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What went wrong this yr? It depends on who you ask. But since these are my thoughts this is what i think went wrong.

It started before the season even started, even before the preseason and even before the draft. Dez Bryant's hold out. The teams unwillingness to speed up that process to meet at a mutual point. Hell they didnt even talk for the longest time. They issued a offer it was denied and it just stayed there. And to be fair to the team thats what they were obligated to do. You dont bid against yourself. Dez Bryants representation was a major fail because they went through a merger and the actual guy who was representing him was too busy deciding if he was going to stay with Roc or move on. Which he moved on but im sure that took precedence over Dez contract situation. And then there was Dez himself. Unwilling to budge and take one for the team and push to get it done sooner. This team kept him out of trouble for yrs with the measures they took to protect their investment from himself. If it wasnt for the Jones' Dez wouldve been suspended atleast 1-2 times. Guy was getting out of control until the team said enough and got him babysitters. And he repaid them by saying I want what i want and im not playing until u give it to me. Instead of being a grown up and appreciating what the team did for him like Tyron Smith did. He took less guranteed money but will get more in the long run. Same deal he got the Cowboys tried to give to Dez. But in Dez selfish materialistic view saw it as im going to get screwed by the most honest team in the NFL. Im sure people around Dez were in his ear. All Dez had to do what look at the Cowboys history for himself and he couldve seen that this team takes care of its players. But then you cant fault a player for having that view because so many teams in sports will cut you when they want to these days. But sadly thats not the Jones' style.

So Dez signs and it's supposed to be back to work. And while yes Dez is always in good shape, he was nowhere near NFL game shape. In TC he looked a little sluggish but he's a superstar and his skill is above the norm so he looked like he was back with no problems. Then the hammies started getting strained and so did his time to get in shape. What Dallas probably shouldve done was what they with other players who have not been ready put them on a PUP list during TC. Thats exactly where he shouldve started to get his body right.

Tony Romo, when he went down this team went down with him. Say what you want but this team knew it was over then. I knew it somewhere in my head but my heart kept telling me now. I held out hope but no, deep down i knew the season was over. I didnt think it would be this bad but it is what it is. Then Romo came back too soon. The minimal amount of time to recover because the Cowboys were right in the thick of the race. That bone wasnt healed. Now i will say this about Romo, the guy is a warrior he will sacrifice his body for the team. But he wont dedicate any time in the weight room or some cardio. Romo im sorry to say is one of the sloppiest looking athletes in the NFL. He looks soft from the neck down. When you have guys like Brady and Rodgers who look the part of a athlete in street clothes Romo looks like a avg Joe. I bet if he dedicated a offseason to the weight room and getting in great shape he would be even better then he is now.

The RB position, was taken for granted by everybody. I agree with observations that McFadden just isnt the right type of back for this team. Oakland ran a similar style of blocking scheme and he just wasnt very good. Think his numbers are somewhat respectable in Dallas because the OL is that much better.

The teams inability to create mismatches on offense. Dez, Beasley and Escobar create so many mismatches for opposing teams that it drives me crazy they dont utilize them. Especially with Escobar, to the point that im started to hope Witten will retire soon. This team is going to end up losing a TE who will go to another team and become a probowler. Already happened with Martellus Bennett.

Doug Free, just got old real quick. He's had his ups and downs this yr, but he's probably seen his better days behind him and going forward if hes on the team should be the swing tackle that can jump right in at either tackle spot for a start here and there.

Posistion coaches for WRs and DBs. These have to be some of the worst in the league. both groups just look to be unprepared for the scheme. I know its not all coaches fault but atleast be able to hide some of the weaknesses.

Passrush, I think Dallas is perfectly fine with the players they have its the approach of the scheme.They can add some young horses to the stable. When we see marinelli be aggresive with the blitz and the coverage this defense overall looks nice. But when he goes conservative this team starts out good but then fades. It didnt help that Dallas played the majorty of their games against teams who use these gimmick offenses that use picks and quick reads. You arent going to get sacks playing these teams because thats why they run that offensive style. To eliminate the sack.

Theres other issues here and there but IMO these are the top issues with this team. Ill post something else in a day or two to voice a little of what i think would help.
 
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Agree with most of this. Whether or not Dez signed well before camp, I still believe that he would have not been in game shape by week one. He would have sat out with the rest of the starters in camp cupcake II IMO.

The RB was a mess to start with. I wanted Murray to stay for one reason: continuity and chemistry. Dallas tried to fix what wasn't broke :(
 

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Agree with most of this. Whether or not Dez signed well before camp, I still believe that he would have not been in game shape by week one. He would have sat out with the rest of the starters in camp cupcake II IMO.

The RB was a mess to start with. I wanted Murray to stay for one reason: continuity and chemistry. Dallas tried to fix what wasn't broke :(

40mil is why he's gone. Philly is paying the price now. Glad them and not the Cowboys are. I bet if they let turbin be the lead back for the remainder of the yr u will see better results. Not Murray results but sustained drives.
 

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These sort of contract disputes happen so regularly I have a hard time faulting that. What happened this year is Romo got hurt and the coaching staff's lack of ability has been exposed. It's that simple. Sure, there are any number of other factors, but if you want the single biggest issue, that's it.
 

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These sort of contract disputes happen so regularly I have a hard time faulting that. What happened this year is Romo got hurt and the coaching staff's lack of ability has been exposed. It's that simple. Sure, there are any number of other factors, but if you want the single biggest issue, that's it.

And here we have Jerry doubling down on his coaches and talking about them being as good as there is . . . . . . . . with scheme and X's & O's
 

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40mil is why he's gone. Philly is paying the price now. Glad them and not the Cowboys are. I bet if they let turbin be the lead back for the remainder of the yr u will see better results. Not Murray results but sustained drives.

For sure too much money. I would have tagged DeMarco and signed Dez early to give this thing one more shot. This isn't retrospect from me, said it at the end of last season. They finally had an identity through the run game and it was gone in a flash.

Should have brought in a better type back to begin with. I also think Turbin can be a factor if given the opportunity.
 

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For sure too much money. I would have tagged DeMarco and signed Dez early to give this thing one more shot. This isn't retrospect from me, said it at the end of last season. They finally had an identity through the run game and it was gone in a flash.

Should have brought in a better type back to begin with. I also think Turbin can be a factor if given the opportunity.

You're still stuck in that tree? Call a tow truck!
 

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Now i will say this about Romo, the guy is a warrior he will sacrifice his body for the team. But he wont dedicate any time in the weight room or some cardio. Romo im sorry to say is one of the sloppiest looking athletes in the NFL. He looks soft from the neck down. When you have guys like Brady and Rodgers who look the part of a athlete in street clothes Romo looks like a avg Joe. I bet if he dedicated a offseason to the weight room and getting in great shape he would be even better then he is now.

Is it about looks or actual physical shape and ability because Romo is just short of being a professional golfer and by all accounts is a phenomenal basketball player as well. If that doesn't say athlete then I don't know what does. Just because he doesn't look like a body builder doesn't make him less of an actual athlete.. sorry. My guess is, without trying to sound like a keyboard warrior, that Romo could out-athlete 90% of us... maybe more. Your argument in this area is flawed. Sorry.
 

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What went wrong this yr? It depends on who you ask. But since these are my thoughts this is what i think went wrong.

It started before the season even started, even before the preseason and even before the draft. Dez Bryant's hold out. The teams unwillingness to speed up that process to meet at a mutual point. Hell they didnt even talk for the longest time. They issued a offer it was denied and it just stayed there. And to be fair to the team thats what they were obligated to do. You dont bid against yourself. Dez Bryants representation was a major fail because they went through a merger and the actual guy who was representing him was too busy deciding if he was going to stay with Roc or move on. Which he moved on but im sure that took precedence over Dez contract situation. And then there was Dez himself. Unwilling to budge and take one for the team and push to get it done sooner. This team kept him out of trouble for yrs with the measures they took to protect their investment from himself. If it wasnt for the Jones' Dez wouldve been suspended atleast 1-2 times. Guy was getting out of control until the team said enough and got him babysitters. And he repaid them by saying I want what i want and im not playing until u give it to me. Instead of being a grown up and appreciating what the team did for him like Tyron Smith did. He took less guranteed money but will get more in the long run. Same deal he got the Cowboys tried to give to Dez. But in Dez selfish materialistic view saw it as im going to get screwed by the most honest team in the NFL. Im sure people around Dez were in his ear. All Dez had to do what look at the Cowboys history for himself and he couldve seen that this team takes care of its players. But then you cant fault a player for having that view because so many teams in sports will cut you when they want to these days. But sadly thats not the Jones' style.

So Dez signs and it's supposed to be back to work. And while yes Dez is always in good shape, he was nowhere near NFL game shape. In TC he looked a little sluggish but he's a superstar and his skill is above the norm so he looked like he was back with no problems. Then the hammies started getting strained and so did his time to get in shape. What Dallas probably shouldve done was what they with other players who have not been ready put them on a PUP list during TC. Thats exactly where he shouldve started to get his body right.

Tony Romo, when he went down this team went down with him. Say what you want but this team knew it was over then. I knew it somewhere in my head but my heart kept telling me now. I held out hope but no, deep down i knew the season was over. I didnt think it would be this bad but it is what it is. Then Romo came back too soon. The minimal amount of time to recover because the Cowboys were right in the thick of the race. That bone wasnt healed. Now i will say this about Romo, the guy is a warrior he will sacrifice his body for the team. But he wont dedicate any time in the weight room or some cardio. Romo im sorry to say is one of the sloppiest looking athletes in the NFL. He looks soft from the neck down. When you have guys like Brady and Rodgers who look the part of a athlete in street clothes Romo looks like a avg Joe. I bet if he dedicated a offseason to the weight room and getting in great shape he would be even better then he is now.

The RB position, was taken for granted by everybody. I agree with observations that McFadden just isnt the right type of back for this team. Oakland ran a similar style of blocking scheme and he just wasnt very good. Think his numbers are somewhat respectable in Dallas because the OL is that much better.

The teams inability to create mismatches on offense. Dez, Beasley and Escobar create so many mismatches for opposing teams that it drives me crazy they dont utilize them. Especially with Escobar, to the point that im started to hope Witten will retire soon. This team is going to end up losing a TE who will go to another team and become a probowler. Already happened with Martellus Bennett.

Doug Free, just got old real quick. He's had his ups and downs this yr, but he's probably seen his better days behind him and going forward if hes on the team should be the swing tackle that can jump right in at either tackle spot for a start here and there.

Posistion coaches for WRs and DBs. These have to be some of the worst in the league. both groups just look to be unprepared for the scheme. I know its not all coaches fault but atleast be able to hide some of the weaknesses.

Passrush, I think Dallas is perfectly fine with the players they have its the approach of the scheme.They can add some young horses to the stable. When we see marinelli be aggresive with the blitz and the coverage this defense overall looks nice. But when he goes conservative this team starts out good but then fades. It didnt help that Dallas played the majorty of their games against teams who use these gimmick offenses that use picks and quick reads. You arent going to get sacks playing these teams because thats why they run that offensive style. To eliminate the sack.

Theres other issues here and there but IMO these are the top issues with this team. Ill post something else in a day or two to voice a little of what i think would help.

Gotta disagree 100% on Dez. He signed July 15th and probably has negative body fat. I watched his offseason workout videos and he was in shape. The foot injury was a fluke. Was Edelman not in game shape when it happened to him?

The season ended in Philly when Hicks landed on Romo's shoulder.
 

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Teams figured out this offense after one season. we used to be able to Dunkin dunk pass at 3 yards and then run 10 yards after the catch, the running lanes for murray were wide open. Now everybody's playing us tight and challenging us to go deep, we don't have a quarterback that the capable of this. we either have to change our offense or get somebody to throw the ball down the field. It's that simple.
 

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What happened you say? Simple it is. Hurt Romo was for most of season. Horrible front office was at selecting backup QB. Team not talented enough to win without aging Jedi. More you must know?
 

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There are really just a few problems, and they have little to do with Dez or Romo's waist size.

It's hard to imagine a team can undervalue a player like him, but they undervalued what Tony brought to the offense. They probably didn't realize how bad Weeden was, but they thought they could run the same offensive scheme with the same tendencies as if Tony was under center. A year of tape on this offense under Linehan, as well as injuries to Dez, and the OL suffering a bit early in the season, and defenses have had little problems with our offense. They thought the offense was a symbiotic relationship with Tony and didn't feel the need to implement creative scheming, or get cute, mainly because Tony made it look better than it was. That's the beauty of a QB like Tony, he can make any scheme look better. Even a "simple" offense like ours. It's also a negative, you get spoiled with him, and can't fully understand the deficiencies in your scheme or properly evaluate the talent needed to run it when he's out there.

Another problem was the complete lack of turnovers. A big issue with the defense early on was the injuries in the front 7. The LB Wilson was taking snaps at DE one game. Why the lack of turnovers? Lack of talent, more film on our secondary, offenses not feeling the need to take chances, and more man coverage where our lackluster CB's are in trail position instead of zone. The TO differential is probably the #1 correlation to winning games, and we saw it last year. One reason why we were 12-4 last year is because this defense overperformed and Rod had these guys forcing TO's left and right. It's a new year, and there's new tape on guys that aren't very talented to begin with. Scandricks injury hurt a lot, but can't possibly explain the complete lack of TO's. A big reason, again, is opposing offenses don't feel the need to press the issue. You saw early on in the season, during Tony's healthy period, balls hitting CB's in the hands and TO's, while dropped, still had opportunities. We've seen less and less opportunities, as teams watch film and realize we can't score, and as long as they don't turn the ball over, they'll probably win. We aren't Seattle on defense, we simply don't have the talent to make up for opponents implementing gameplans exclusively to eliminate turnovers.

In my opinion, that's exactly how we got in this mess.
 

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tl;dr

You can do what you want with your post, but if you want more people to read it, maybe you might provide a summary at the end of such a long post or maybe just bold the information you think is most important.

I took a look at the length of the post and didn't even consider reading.

Just offering a friendly suggestion.
 

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tl;dr

You can do what you want with your post, but if you want more people to read it, maybe you might provide a summary at the end of such a long post or maybe just bold the information you think is most important.

I took a look at the length of the post and didn't even consider reading.

Just offering a friendly suggestion.

:lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:

His arent all that bad really. At least compared to a few prize posters we have around here. Thankfully we dont get the volumes of posts declaring Eli as the great clutch QB who is better than Romo anymore.
 

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:lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:

His arent all that bad really. At least compared to a few prize posters we have around here. Thankfully we dont get the volumes of posts declaring Eli as the great clutch QB who is better than Romo anymore.

I wasn't trying to ridicule him or compare him to anyone. And he's not the only one who writes long posts.

I just check out when I see long posts. Not trying to be a smarty pants. Just trying to offer a suggestion.
 

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Can't agree more about position coaches and Doug Free. Both are among the worst in the league. Doug Free is one of the worst starters as far as being consistent. He's got nothing left.
 
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