What if... Eagles had drafted Akili Smith? They almost did

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By DAN DUNKIN
Burlington County Times

Since Andy Reid became the Eagles' head coach in 1999, the franchise's hierarchy hasn't become the model for clairvoyantly astute drafting, as fans and media remind them. But with five NFC East titles during that span, the club has done a few things right.

One was getting their first pick in '99 right.

A former Eagles scout was in the war room the day the Eagles drafted unpolished but unbelievably gifted quarterback Donovan McNabb. The scout recalls dissenting opinions among his colleagues and the Eagles braintrust.

“You can't believe how close that was,” he said. “We had people in the draft room that wanted (quarterback) Akili Smith.”

Akili Smith is now playing in Canada. Running back Ricky Williams, many Eagle fans' first choice in '99 — as evidenced by the booing McNabb received upon selection — is hoping to return to the NFL from Canada following his one-year suspension for substance abuse.

It just shows you the Eagles did their homework, and while many of their draft picks since have rated Cs, Fs or incompletes, the Eagles have remained the class of a division elsewhere riddled with coaching changes, quarterback carousels and shaky drafting.

“They've had the best quarterback in the division for eight years, and you can go a long way with that,” said Ray Didinger, a senior producer at NFL films, Eagles historian, and Ricky Williams backer on draft day '99. “I give them tremendous credit for that, because it was by no means a consensus.”

That the Eagles won the division last year with Jeff Garcia taking over for an injured McNabb was seen by some fans as an indictment of McNabb. That's really a flimsy argument by a segment with which five-time Pro Bowler McNabb can never win. What the Eagles' late-season rally really underscored was an overall foundation more solid than that of their division rivals, a continuity built partly through drafting.

“Where they've been right, they've been very right,” Didinger said. “Overall their batting average is not terrific. They've wasted a lot of high picks. But they've been better than the rest of the division. The other teams have really botched this thing.”

“With the Eagles it seems like it's been boom or bust,” said Dan Shonka, general manager and national scout for Ourlads Scouting Services.

The Eagles' best top-end draft during the Reid era was 2002, when they selected Lito Sheppard, Sheldon Brown and Brian Westbrook in the first three rounds.

That's two solid cover cornerbacks and one of the NFL's most dynamic running backs.

The Eagles' 2005 draft netted four players currently listed first-string on the depth chart, not including defensive end Trent Cole, who performed well last year in place of injured Jevon Kearse. None appear to be future Pro Bowlers, but they look like dependable players. That draft marked an important comeback, because in the '04 and '03 drafts combined, only four of the 16 players the Eagles selected are still on the roster. Three are starters, with road-grader guard Shawn Andrews a formidable fixture.

“A lot of scouts I talked to didn't project him as a first-rounder,” said Didinger, noting Andrews' prior weight problems and the question of whether he could adapt to pass blocking.

It's too early to call the Eagles' 2006 draft a washout, but when only a fifth-rounder (linebacker Omar Gaither) was a significant contributor to a team coming off a 6-10 season, you worry about the future foundation. The most conspicuous non-factor was first-round pick Brodrick Bunkley, again pointing out the Eagles' problems finding a consistent defensive tackle a year after taking Mike Patterson in the first round.

The salary cap makes it difficult to sustain success, and though the Eagles have had some good fortune with free agents and trades, the draft has never been more crucial toward building for the long haul.

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WoodysGirl;1456467 said:
What the Eagles' late-season rally really underscored was an overall foundation more solid than that of their division rivals, a continuity built partly through drafting.

“Where they've been right, they've been very right,” Didinger said. “Overall their batting average is not terrific. They've wasted a lot of high picks. But they've been better than the rest of the division. The other teams have really botched this thing.”

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The salary cap makes it difficult to sustain success, and though the Eagles have had some good fortune with free agents and trades, the draft has never been more crucial toward building for the long haul.

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Some excellent analysis and a summary of wisdom in this article. The Eagles don't have to be "great" in their evaluation and selection of personnel. They only have to be better than the rest of the division. Excellence (and continuity) of coaching takes care of the rest.

Until the Cowboys can match them in personnel and in coaching we will continue to chase them from behind. We'll see how it goes but I'm not confident this is the year. Do we have a QB as good as McNabb? Unknown. Is our coaching staff capable of building an offensive and defensive game plan to beat the Eagles? Unknown. Is our OL capable of handling the blitz packages? Unknown.

IMO, the Eagles improved as the season went on last year. Their attack became much more balanced and difficult to defend. It is my judgement that they will become a more dangerous team this season if Andy Reid sticks with his "late season" approach. They will enter the season as the team to beat once again.
 

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i was gonna say...they have a qb who seems to get injured when things get rough, or he had a really bad play in a bad streak.

if they're a "little better than most" this is what you get. their refusal to address the WR problem in a realistic manner is killing them. and if there's any truth to the "hurt when it gets rough, the team will pick up on that.

not a big mcnabb fan, i suppose
 

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iceberg;1456532 said:
i was gonna say...they have a qb who seems to get injured when things get rough, or he had a really bad play in a bad streak.

if they're a "little better than most" this is what you get. their refusal to address the WR problem in a realistic manner is killing them. and if there's any truth to the "hurt when it gets rough, the team will pick up on that.

not a big mcnabb fan, i suppose

Do you think he faked a knee injury last year? Or the sports hernia the year before? I agree on the receiver part. They did try with T.O., but that brought about different headaches.
 

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joseephuss;1456544 said:
Do you think he faked a knee injury last year? Or the sports hernia the year before? I agree on the receiver part. They did try with T.O., but that brought about different headaches.


I don't think he faked any injury, but he does have a history of getting injured.

He also has a history of choking in big time situations.
 

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joseephuss;1456544 said:
Do you think he faked a knee injury last year? Or the sports hernia the year before? I agree on the receiver part. They did try with T.O., but that brought about different headaches.


I think he makes injuries out to be worse than they are when he starts playing bad ..... anytime the guy throws an interception, he limps off the field.
 

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zrinkill;1456568 said:
I think he makes injuries out to be worse than they are when he starts playing bad ..... anytime the guy throws an interception, he limps off the field.

I think that is just a silly over statement. The guy suffered a major knee injury last season and a sports hernia the year before. He does wilt under pressure. I don't argue that and that is a big reason Philly only made 1 Superbowl in four NFC championship appearances. I doubt he limps more just because he throws an interception.
 

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It is eerie how McNabb's career is starting to look a lot like cunninghams when he was in Philly. Really good years then bam an injury and they can plug anyone in to lead the team and the next thing you know McNabb is in Vegas laying tile.
 

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joseephuss;1456577 said:
I think that is just a silly over statement. I doubt he limps more just because he throws an interception.

Then you do not watch the games .... it happens every time
 

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joseephuss;1456577 said:
I think that is just a silly over statement. The guy suffered a major knee injury last season and a sports hernia the year before. He does wilt under pressure. I don't argue that and that is a big reason Philly only made 1 Superbowl in four NFC championship appearances. I doubt he limps more just because he throws an interception.

it would be a silly overstatement if i never saw him do it, but i've seen him do it before. once i noted it, i watched for it and it happens.

a lot.
 

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iceberg;1456532 said:
i was gonna say...they have a qb who seems to get injured when things get rough, or he had a really bad play in a bad streak.

if they're a "little better than most" this is what you get. their refusal to address the WR problem in a realistic manner is killing them. and if there's any truth to the "hurt when it gets rough, the team will pick up on that.

not a big mcnabb fan, i suppose

Wide receiver certainly isn't their problem. Its Reid's inability to understand you MUST run the ball effectively to win championships. Its all the more baffling considering they have the biggest OL in football.
 

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iceberg;1456822 said:
it would be a silly overstatement if i never saw him do it, but i've seen him do it before. once i noted it, i watched for it and it happens.

a lot.

I can sit here and rip McNabb with the best of em when it comes to making big plays in crucial situations, but I can't question his toughness. He's 1 tough SOB. I remember when Roy finished his season a couple years ago, the dude tried coming back in that game with a hernia, and torn groin on both sides. Dude is nuts.
 

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If they would have drafted Smith they're trophy case would look like this...


:trophy:


Oh wait, it does.


No difference then.




:lmao2: @ :eagles:
 

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Blue&Silver;1456846 said:
I can sit here and rip McNabb with the best of em when it comes to making big plays in crucial situations, but I can't question his toughness. He's 1 tough SOB. I remember when Roy finished his season a couple years ago, the dude tried coming back in that game with a hernia, and torn groin on both sides. Dude is nuts.

i can, i will, and i have.

and i'm willing to bet he does it again next time he chokes on one of those big plays you see him screw up.
 

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Cajuncowboy;1456847 said:
If they would have drafted Smith they're trophy case would look like this...


:trophy:


Oh wait, it does.


No difference then.




:lmao2: @ :eagles:

:hammer:

you beat me to it!:lmao2:
 

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iceberg;1456852 said:
i can, i will, and i have.

and i'm willing to bet he does it again next time he chokes on one of those big plays you see him screw up.

Whatever.

Steve Young, Payton Manning, Dan Marino, and Jeff Garcia were, and are, masters of the art of faking injuries to draw penalties. Usually when McNabb is injured, its significant because he misses time.
 

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Blue&Silver;1456935 said:
Whatever.

Steve Young, Payton Manning, Dan Marino, and Jeff Garcia were, and are, masters of the art of faking injuries to draw penalties. Usually when McNabb is injured, its significant because he misses time.

who in the name of spotted norse gods said "to draw a penalty"?

mcnabb chokes and he's "hurt" to have a built in excuse.

he's a loser who's never won and never will.

excuses to the left dude, i just don't have time for that.
 

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Blue&Silver;1456846 said:
I can sit here and rip McNabb with the best of em when it comes to making big plays in crucial situations, but I can't question his toughness. He's 1 tough SOB. I remember when Roy finished his season a couple years ago, the dude tried coming back in that game with a hernia, and torn groin on both sides. Dude is nuts.

Personally, I think this guy plays to the camera a little. He seems to limp more after he makes a bad play.

I'm not convinced that if the Eagles had taken Smith, and the Browns McNabb, that McNabb would not be out of football right now, and Smith would be just as successful (kind of I guess) as McNabb. McNabb is the greatest example ever of a product of the system. A system whose back-up QB's can come in and actually play better than McNabb (Garcia, Feeley). Had Smith grasped Reid's system, he would be just as good, if not better. If McNabb had went to the expansion Browns or the trainwreck known as the Bengals, at that time, I think he would probably be out of football right now.
 

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