What improvements can we hope for from Jaylon and Vander Esch?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Scotman, Apr 16, 2019.

  1. Scotman

    Scotman Well-Known Member

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    These two showed such enormous potential last year. They both played extremely well. IF they both improve even a little bit from last year, where would they rank in comparison to other really solid LB duos in the league?

    What are you expecting from them this year? What are the areas that we can look to see the most improvement?
  2. John813

    John813 Well-Known Member

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    Taking on blocks and just experience .
    You can tell the sky is the limit for them athletically but they can improve in some technical areas to be truly elite linebackers . Both are still green in experience so I feel they can be called one of the best lb cores, yearly, maybe as early as next year .
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  3. Rockport

    Rockport AmberBeer Zone Supporter

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    Same improvement you would expect from any player in their particular situation. Work ethic dictates they will be better. It’s all about attitude and they both excel in that category.
  4. Hardline

    Hardline Well-Known Member

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    I would like to see a big fat space eating nose guard in front of them.
  5. InTheZone

    InTheZone Well-Known Member

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    if their last game was to go by then I'll take any improvement otherwise we're screwed.
  6. Cowboysfan1975

    Cowboysfan1975 Well-Known Member

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    One game doesn't mean much. They are both studs and everyone knows it
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  7. Corso

    Corso Offseason mode... sleepy time

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    Nope. Cut the scumbags.
  8. cern

    cern Well-Known Member

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    Recognition. The ability to diagnose plays quicker. That, coupled with their athleticism would put them both over the top.
  9. 408Cowboy

    408Cowboy Well-Known Member

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    One game to advance in the playoffs means absolutely nothing.
  10. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    In deciding if a player is good or not.... Yes.
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  11. jazzcat22

    jazzcat22 Well-Known Member

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    The best thing is get get better surrounding talent. Such as a S and a DT.
  12. Rockport

    Rockport AmberBeer Zone Supporter

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    Who wouldn’t.
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  13. Mr_437

    Mr_437 Well-Known Member

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    I think their Top 3 duo now and moving forward.

    Wolf Hunter - build more muscle and get in tip top condition. Thought dude looked tired a lot in the 2nd half last season. Other than that he'll improve in the other areas.

    Predator - reading his keys faster and slipping blocks, also getting healthier. Without a space eater up front #54 has to be slick vs run blockers. He'll get better after viewing his tape from last season.

    Small stuff for these guys...just get em signed up for a long time so they can terroize like: Kuechley n Davis, Urlacher n Briggs, Wagner n Wright.
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  14. Hardline

    Hardline Well-Known Member

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    Rod Marinelli
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  15. Rockport

    Rockport AmberBeer Zone Supporter

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    LOL, good one.
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  16. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Staff Member

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    More of the same+. They do the same for 12-15 years they will be HOF candidates
  17. CF74

    CF74 Vet Min Plus

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    Get another pair of DT’s and a safety as has already been mentioned..

    Everybody talks about that Rams game but what we didn’t know was that Woods was playing with a bad shoulder at the 1-Tech position, so we need another big boy to help him out, an upgrade would be even better...
  18. beware_d-ware

    beware_d-ware Well-Known Member

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    I mean, they're both such beasts that any room they have for improvement looks pretty minimal. Jaylon's not great in man coverage, he bites on good fakes and stuff, so he does have some things to fix. But in zone coverage + pass rushing + tackling everything that moves, I think he's already there. And LVE - seriously, how could he get much better. I'd say he was a top 5 LB in the game from the moment he joined the starting lineup.

    Getting a DT to free them up is about the best thing you can do to help them at this point. Those two are the real deal.
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  19. Fizziksman

    Fizziksman BanditHiro

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    i mean no matter how good your linebackers are, if the line is being pushed up 5 yards up the field they become pretty worthless.
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  20. Mr_C

    Mr_C Carharris2

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    This will be Jaylon’s first pro year totally healthy. He will be a playmaker personified and will lead our D and maybe our team where we want to be.

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