What is it with this team?

JohnnyTheFox

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Is it the coaches arent doing their job correctly or are our players not as talented as some believe.....or a combination of both?
Also how do the Giants lose Plax and Burress and plug in Smith and Manningham and dont even lose a beat and here we are stuck with several WRs that on other teams would be 3rd-4th recievers at best.
I dont like what this organization has become and while there is plenty blame to go around a lot of it lies at Jerrys feet.
 

JakeCamp12

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Jerry has never in his time as a GM ever developed a No. 1 receiver. The last receiver that was drafted by Dallas and became a No. 1 was Irvin. And he was drafted by Coach Landry. Under Jerry we have failed miserably at developing players. If you take out Jimmy Johnsons tenure, it is really a sad lot of players that were drafted and never panned out. Jerry the GM is not a football guy nor can he hold a candle to any decent GM that is in the league today.
 

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I think everyone is to blame. Players, coaches, front office.. everyone.

It's just getting old. I'm almost becoming numb to losing. And it's not even just losing, but it's losing games that we should win.

It sucks to watch a talented team piss away year after year. Makes me feel a bit uneasy I'm dropping the kind of money I am to go see them @NYG in December.. but oh well. Who knows, maybe this is the year we start slow and finish strong? We can only hope.
 

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Jerry Jones has become a monster so full of his ego he believes every thought and word that comes out of his mouth should be written down and canonized. He created everything, therefore all blame starts and ends here.

On the field we are seeing the same things we saw last season. I see a team that does not prepare well both physically and mentally. Probably because of the power struggle between Wade & Garrett. This team will never be what it could have become because of this. Maybe the players can overcome them? History has proven they can’t.
 

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Achilleslastand;2996846 said:
Is it the coaches arent doing their job correctly or are our players not as talented as some believe.....or a combination of both?
Also how do the Giants lose Plax and Burress and plug in Smith and Manningham and dont even lose a beat and here we are stuck with several WRs that on other teams would be 3rd-4th recievers at best.
I dont like what this organization has become and while there is plenty blame to go around a lot of it lies at Jerrys feet.


I think fans, including me, tend to look at their own players and think they are better than they are. Spencer comes to mind. Most o linemen we have drafted. We really need players like Spencer to step up. I loved that pick.
 

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Achilleslastand;2996846 said:
Is it the coaches arent doing their job correctly or are our players not as talented as some believe.....or a combination of both?
Also how do the Giants lose Plax and Burress and plug in Smith and Manningham and dont even lose a beat and here we are stuck with several WRs that on other teams would be 3rd-4th recievers at best.
I dont like what this organization has become and while there is plenty blame to go around a lot of it lies at Jerrys feet.
It's a comedy of collectively bad things. This team is a trainwreck.
 

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Jay;2996893 said:
I think everyone is to blame. Players, coaches, front office.. everyone.

It's just getting old. I'm almost becoming numb to losing. And it's not even just losing, but it's losing games that we should win.

It sucks to watch a talented team piss away year after year. Makes me feel a bit uneasy I'm dropping the kind of money I am to go see them @NYG in December.. but oh well. Who knows, maybe this is the year we start slow and finish strong? We can only hope.

I wish you would have saved your money man. Even if they win, it will be an irritating experience. I've been to countless Giants games and the fans are just classless. They've gotten even worse since that lucky Lombardi that they got a couple of years ago. Thank you again Crayton, Hochuli and Fasano, not to mention the Patriots DBs that dropped those game clinching picks against ShEli. Every play there will be some annoying comment about our playoff drought or Romo or something. If we win, they'll still be trash talking about our drought or how they're still in 1st etc. Good luck. You'd have to pay me a good amount of money to sit through that crap ever again.
 

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Achilleslastand;2996846 said:
Is it the coaches arent doing their job correctly or are our players not as talented as some believe.....or a combination of both?
Also how do the Giants lose Plax and Burress and plug in Smith and Manningham and dont even lose a beat and here we are stuck with several WRs that on other teams would be 3rd-4th recievers at best.
I dont like what this organization has become and while there is plenty blame to go around a lot of it lies at Jerrys feet.
Dont forget ur plugging two very good WRs in there.However I think Otree would help a lot.
 

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Poor execution, mediocre coaching, and overated talent. Pretty much sums it up.
 

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It's a cumulative effect. So I'm gonna blame the culture that exists at VR. We've seen two extremes in Parcells and Wade since we've bee competitive again.

Maybe the answer is somewhere in the middle of the Parcells-Phillips continuum. If not then Jerry needs to take along look in the mirror and be honest with himself. I don't know if he can do that.
 

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RS12;2997071 said:
Poor execution, mediocre coaching, and overated talent. Pretty much sums it up.

If our talent is overrated, I'd say it's due to the talent nitbeing developed to it's potential.

That's on management IMO
 

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windward;2997080 said:
If our talent is overrated, I'd say it's due to the talent nitbeing developed to it's potential.

That's on management IMO

:hammer: We have a winner.
 

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Achilleslastand;2996846 said:
Is it the coaches arent doing their job correctly or are our players not as talented as some believe.....or a combination of both?
Also how do the Giants lose Plax and Burress and plug in Smith and Manningham and dont even lose a beat and here we are stuck with several WRs that on other teams would be 3rd-4th recievers at best.
I dont like what this organization has become and while there is plenty blame to go around a lot of it lies at Jerrys feet.

Wait...who and who??
 
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