What is taking so long with Greg Hardy?

[Nightman]

They're just keeping these abuse stories in the press for a much longer news cycle than they need to be. I don't understand what they think they're doing with it, honestly. It doesn't make people think the league is somehow more serious. People don't pay that close attention. All they think is that the league is constantly fighting a rearguard action against these abuse stories and it paints everybody with a bad PR brush.

They'd be so much better off just letting justice be served through he courts and then getting these players and these families counseling. Making a big donation to anti-violence campaigns and keeping players like Jason Witten moving forward with those causes in a positive light. It's crazy what they're doing, instead.

Great points.

Plus there will always be another case and they can use their new rules all they want.

 

[Idgit]

Great points.

Plus there will always be another case and they can use their new rules all they want.

It's not like the stuff that goes on in the players' personal lives is directly related to the league, anyway. Sure, these guys have testosterone flowing because of their jobs, and the lifestyle of what they get paid puts them in some compromising positions, but that's not really the league's fault. What goes on in their personal lives is not a football matter. They really ought to just keep their noses out of it and only try to help the victims philanthropically if they're worried about the issues or the impact. The way it is now, each time something happens, they've trained us all to say 'here we go again, how are you going to handle it *this* time, NFL?" That's a no-win proposition for a sports league.

 

[Staubacher]

Doc Severinsen used to say: If I don't practice for one day I can tell. If I don't practice for two days, my audience can tell.

Rust is real people.

Major props for quoting Doc Severinsen.

 

[Galian Beast]

The most shocking thing is that the NFL ignored a Federal Judge, and is in collusion with a non neutral arbitrator to rubber stamp the league's suspension and in doing so also ignoring a Federal Judge.

But at this point if you don't get it you probably won't. Goodell doesn't care. This guy is untouchable right now, and he is more concerned with the perception of the general public and the pressure that comes from it. He's see the story being about a larger narrative of the NFL being soft on domestic violence and he is willing to break the law in order to circumvent that narrative as the potential damage from doing so is less damaging than the narrative itself.

 

[viman96]

I am not defending the NFL or Goodell. The Cowboys put themselves in this position when they signed Hardy. They knew what they were getting into and doubt any of them would be surprised if the entire process concludes around training camp.

 

[Longboysfan]

maybe mara is on vacation and can't get involved yet

Or waiting till they have a week to digest and say 12 weeks out.

 

[Doomsday101]

This is not unusual or taking any extra time than others. As Jones said we more than likely will find out sometimes between June 11th and 16th. Meantime Brady is still waiting on his hearing of his appeal scheduled on June 23. I know people want to know as soon as possible but it is the way it is and has nothing to do with it being the Cowboys. Dallas will continue to prepare to go without Hardy and should his suspension be lowered great

 

[erod]

This is not unusual or taking any extra time than others. As Jones said we more than likely will find out sometimes between June 11th and 16th. Meantime Brady is still waiting on his hearing of his appeal scheduled on June 23. I know people want to know as soon as possible but it is the way it is and has nothing to do with it being the Cowboys. Dallas will continue to prepare to go without Hardy and should his suspension be lowered great

I suppose you're right, but I'll add this. If he were simply going to uphold it, I would think that would be out by now. I really think the league wants this ruling to be final, so there could very well be a negotiation plea going on. If it's ruled to be six games or more, Hardy can just appeal it and get that reduced easily. The league knows that and wants to avoid it, I believe.

The NFL looks really weak with these rulings repeatedly getting overturned in "real" court.

 

[viman96]

It is a very complex situation and takes time to get sorted. I'm not surprised by any of this. I get wanting to know or wanting closure but with the current climate around these type of situations it is going to take time. Thankfully there is still plenty of it before the season starts.

 

[Doomsday101]

I suppose you're right, but I'll add this. If he were simply going to uphold it, I would think that would be out by now. I really think the league wants this ruling to be final, so there could very well be a negotiation plea going on. If it's ruled to be six games or more, Hardy can just appeal it and get that reduced easily. The league knows that and wants to avoid it, I believe.

The NFL looks really weak with these rulings repeatedly getting overturned in "real" court.

I think it just takes time, Cowboys organization understand this. The process can take time but they fully expect a ruling to be made between the dates Jones quoted and this is based on past situations. If it is as Jones said between June 11th and June 16 then there is ample time for Hardy to seek intervention by the court. I don't think there are any Ulterior motive, just the way the process works. I get people wanting to know but it has only been less than 2 weeks since the hearing. Meantime Hardy is still out on the field for these workouts

 

[burmafrd]

As most anyone knows, all athletes get rusty at their sport if they haven't done it for a while. You may disagree but you can do it in a more civilized fashion than calling me "full of crap". It's not like I was trying to get you to believe a total BS story... just sharing my opinion, guy.

well its a pretty poor opinion

 

[burmafrd]

Doc Severinsen used to say: If I don't practice for one day I can tell. If I don't practice for two days, my audience can tell.

Rust is real people.

comparing playing a musical instrument to rushing the passer? lame

 

[burmafrd]

It is a very complex situation and takes time to get sorted. I'm not surprised by any of this. I get wanting to know or wanting closure but with the current climate around these type of situations it is going to take time. Thankfully there is still plenty of it before the season starts.

there is no excuse for it taking this long. This is NOT complicated.

should have only taken a couple of days if this is as IMPORTANT as the league claims. Either the suspension is valid or not. You look at the evidence and decide. No reason it should take this long.

 

[erod]

I think it just takes time, Cowboys organization understand this. The process can take time but they fully expect a ruling to be made between the dates Jones quoted and this is based on past situations. If it is as Jones said between June 11th and June 16 then there is ample time for Hardy to seek intervention by the court. I don't think there are any Ulterior motive, just the way the process works. I get people wanting to know but it has only been less than 2 weeks since the hearing. Meantime Hardy is still out on the field for these workouts

After watching the Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson rulings get thrown out, I think the NFL needs to show it understands its OWN rules, and knows how to facilitate its league based on those rules.

Right now, the league looks reactionary and half-cocked. These precedents play right into the NFLPA's hands.

 

[Doomsday101]

After watching the Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson rulings get thrown out, I think the NFL needs to show it understands its OWN rules, and knows how to facilitate its league based on those rules.

Right now, the league looks reactionary and half-cocked. These precedents play right into the NFLPA's hands.

I think they will announce it soon enough in a similar fashion they have with all appeals.

 

[burmafrd]

After watching the Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson rulings get thrown out, I think the NFL needs to show it understands its OWN rules, and knows how to facilitate its league based on those rules.

Right now, the league looks reactionary and half-cocked. These precedents play right into the NFLPA's hands.

goodell and company right now are walking around with kick me signs taped to their backs and don't seem to know it.

 

[JoeKing]

well its a pretty poor opinion

Oh yeah? I guess that explains why so many liked it. I'm not asking you to agree just don't be uncivil when you don't, that's all.

 

[erod]

I think they will announce it soon enough in a similar fashion they have with all appeals.

The rule at the time of the incident was a warning. That's it.

Then, after Ray Rice, the league quickly came up with its new rule: six games for the first offense, lifetime ban for the second. (The NFLPA didn't approve it.) And they still didn't follow that rule here.

So what's the rule?

Federal court will have a field day with this.

The other part of this is this assumption that Hardy just paid the girl off. While I certainly believe that personally, that doesn't matter in a court. You can't just assume that. Maybe she was lying, didn't want other things to come out about her, realized she was just as culpable, whatever. It was dropped, and you can't legally make assumptions as to why.

 

[viman96]

This is NOT complicated.

YES it IS. Just because YOU do not THINK it is does NOT make is SO.

should have only taken a couple of days if this is as IMPORTANT as the league claims.

Say WHO?

Either the suspension is valid or not.

Agreed

You look at the evidence and decide.

Takes TIME to sort through all the details.

No reason it should take this long.

The NFL and potentially the legal system is NOT on YOUR time schedule.

 

[Doomsday101]

The rule at the time of the incident was a warning. That's it.

Then, after Ray Rice, the league quickly came up with its new rule: six games for the first offense, lifetime ban for the second. (The NFLPA didn't approve it.) And they still didn't follow that rule here.

So what's the rule?

Federal court will have a field day with this.

That is all well and good the ruling will come down when it comes down. I'm not saying right or wrong I'm saying the process takes time it is the way it is not just for Hardy but all. If you don't like it fine I get it but it is not going to change. Cowboys organization is not crying over this they know this process and deal with it. Meantime Hardy is allowed to work out and more than likely will have ample time to go to courts if he chooses. The NFL is on their time frame not yours