What is taking so long with Greg Hardy?

[Corso]

Great freakin' post. As a former trumpet player and somebody who loved Doc the line itself is awesome. By the way - there's a really cool bar on Santa Monica Blvd in West Hollywood called - Dan Tanna's.

I used to go there many times. There, Chateau Marmont and the Lava Lounge because the Blue Hawaiians was my favorite band and they were the house musicians there.
And I lived 2 blocks away at the time... I was just in LA (West Holly specifically) the past few days for work and MAN! That place changes way too quickly. I laughed when I saw churches turned into clubs and vice versa.

 

[AsthmaField]

Yes. Certainly. You want to create a tremendous incentive for players to buy their way out of situations like domestic violence (as Hardy did by paying his ex to disappear) or sexual assault. Just pay 'em to not cooperate. Great idea X

1. That might alleviate a lot of the problems, and
2. I might figure out a way for one of them to beat the crap out of me to get paid.

 

[DanTanna]

Great freakin' post. As a former trumpet player and somebody who loved Doc the line itself is awesome. By the way - there's a really cool bar on Santa Monica Blvd in West Hollywood called - Dan Tanna's.

Thanks for the kind word. I know of the restaurant Dan Tana's. Even though they spell it with one "n", they've contacted me about my domain www.DanTanna.com . I ain't selling!

 

[TheCount]

This reply is out of context, you're responding to something I directed towards Dooms who had stated that the NFL made it painful so that the players wouldn't challenge,,, well, they are going to challenge, especially if you dish out a punishment that greatly exceeds the stated rules.

Some of it is about more than your reply, but my I was also saying that they would have challenged even if the punishment was 2 games or 4 because that's what the NFLPA does. They appeal nearly every punishment.

 

[Lodeus]

The printer for the random punishment generator is busted.

 

[Corso]

The printer for the random punishment generator is busted.

I miss your old sig brother. That sig alone would make me put on the headphones and get to work, it was so Rock'nRoll. I once threw down 36 pages of writing (screenplay format, admittedly) off your sig and some dorky Ronald Jenkees music (who is my brother from another mother) I was listening to at the time. Truth.

Bring the old sig back!

Edit: Love Faith No More's new album. I'm sure you agree...

 

[LatinMind]

What in the Sam Hill is taking so long? Is this a decision or a negotiation?

Just go ahead and uphold the decision so we can get the appeal process underway.

Jiminy Christmas.

if i worked in the nfl offices i still wouldnt tell you.

 

[Lodeus]

I miss your old sig brother. That sig alone would make me put on the headphones and get to work, it was so Rock'nRoll. I once threw down 36 pages of writing (screenplay format, admittedly) off your sig and some dorky Ronald Jenkees music (who is my brother from another mother) I was listening to at the time. Truth.

Bring the old sig back!

Edit: Love Faith No More's new album. I'm sure you agree...

Ha! Maybe someday!

Their new album is pretty sweet. Only have one really good sit down and listen in with it though.

 

[guag]

The printer for the random punishment generator is busted.

That avatar though. \m/

 

[AzorAhai]

Pretty easy to see what the NFL is doing. They already have a pretty good time line for how the lawsuit is going to go. It took 5 months from filing the lawsuit to the hearing in the AP case. It was then ordered back to arbitration and the NFL was told use the old policy(basically 2 game max). Even if the appeal was denied tomorrow, the courts probably won't get around to it until early November. It then has to go back to appeals and reheard, which we see how long that could take.

In essence, Hardy could miss the 1st 10 PLUS games waiting on this process to play out. He would then be subject to any extra games he has to sit due to the actual suspension if the 2nd appeal gives one. The NFL knows all of these facts and knows Hardy will likely miss 10+ games, unless an injunction is granted that allows Hardy to play, pending the results of the hearing, or the courts bump the hearing to the front of the line (which I think is unlikely). I think the NFL is counting on this being denied. At that point, the court ruling wouldn't matter. Hardy would have missed 25+ games, even if the suspension is reduced to zero. Hardy doesn't win either since he misses those games and also the game bonus checks for 10+ games this season with minimal suspension.

I'm thinking Hardy having any significant playing time this year hinges on the injunction. If thats denied, don't expect to see Hardy playing anytime soon.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I'm thinking Hardy having any significant playing time this year hinges on the injunction. If thats denied, don't expect to see Hardy playing anytime soon.

Wednesday morning Shefty said sometime this week we get the NFL ruling. There won't be a reduction in games. Then we go to court and will win. The number of games Hardy is suspended gets reduced significantly.

All this just takes some time and won't be completely settled this week or this month but it will be before the season opener.

 

[AzorAhai]

Wednesday morning Shefty said sometime this week we get the NFL ruling. There won't be a reduction in games. Then we go to court and will win. The number of games Hardy is suspended gets reduced significantly.

All this just takes some time and won't be completely settled this week or this month but it will be before the season opener.

I'm not so sure the reduction will matter by the time it's all settled. AP took 5 months to get his day in court. I doubt the courts are going to rush it to the front, but I suppose its possible. If that same time frame is followed or even similar, it will be around November before he gets his day. I do think he has a fair shot at getting an injunction allowing him to play while he waits on the court date, but if thats denied it's probably pretty bad news for his shot at playing early in the season.

 

[tideh20heel]

Murder trials are completed in 2 weeks or less. You heard it here first.

Murder trials are completed in 2 weeks or less. You heard it here first.

I'm not sure what you are being a smart *** about but the actual trial typically takes a couple weeks and jury deliberations a day or two if that. Right about the same timeline. So yes many murder trials are completed in less time than this.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I'm not so sure the reduction will matter by the time it's all settled. AP took 5 months to get his day in court. I doubt the courts are going to rush it to the front, but I suppose its possible. If that same time frame is followed or even similar, it will be around November before he gets his day. I do think he has a fair shot at getting an injunction allowing him to play while he waits on the court date, but if thats denied it's probably pretty bad news for his shot at playing early in the season.

Hardy will be in and out of court before Labor day.

 

[windjc]

Pretty easy to see what the NFL is doing. They already have a pretty good time line for how the lawsuit is going to go. It took 5 months from filing the lawsuit to the hearing in the AP case. It was then ordered back to arbitration and the NFL was told use the old policy(basically 2 game max). Even if the appeal was denied tomorrow, the courts probably won't get around to it until early November. It then has to go back to appeals and reheard, which we see how long that could take.

In essence, Hardy could miss the 1st 10 PLUS games waiting on this process to play out. He would then be subject to any extra games he has to sit due to the actual suspension if the 2nd appeal gives one. The NFL knows all of these facts and knows Hardy will likely miss 10+ games, unless an injunction is granted that allows Hardy to play, pending the results of the hearing, or the courts bump the hearing to the front of the line (which I think is unlikely). I think the NFL is counting on this being denied. At that point, the court ruling wouldn't matter. Hardy would have missed 25+ games, even if the suspension is reduced to zero. Hardy doesn't win either since he misses those games and also the game bonus checks for 10+ games this season with minimal suspension.

I'm thinking Hardy having any significant playing time this year hinges on the injunction. If thats denied, don't expect to see Hardy playing anytime soon.

No. The courts will hear it much faster. Courts don't wait to hear cases that if the plaintiff wins, they still lose.

 

[Bullflop]

The longer Goodell takes in settling this thing, the closer he is to achieving his goal. That's how he rolls.

 

[gmoney112]

Yes. Certainly. You want to create a tremendous incentive for players to buy their way out of situations like domestic violence (as Hardy did by paying his ex to disappear) or sexual assault. Just pay 'em to not cooperate. Great idea X

Yeah, it's called the United States judicial system. Maybe you've heard of it.

If you're all gung-ho about letting certain interest groups play judge, jury, and executioner, then maybe you should click your heels three times and go to Africa.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Some of it is about more than your reply, but my I was also saying that they would have challenged even if the punishment was 2 games or 4 because that's what the NFLPA does. They appeal nearly every punishment.

That's probably true when they are challenging the fact that theyre being punished at all, but I wouldn't expect Hardy to have challenged 2-4 games.

 

[Fletch]

If

Yeah, it's called the United States judicial system. Maybe you've heard of it.

If you're all gung-ho about letting certain interest groups play judge, jury, and executioner, then maybe you should click your heels three times and go to Africa.

If I could click my heels three times and go somewhere, it sure the hell wouldn't be to Africa.

 

[Nightman]

No. The courts will hear it much faster. Courts don't wait to hear cases that if the plaintiff wins, they still lose.

Hardy will be in and out of court before Labor day.

The NFL will appeal any Federal Court ruling and keeping a player on the Commissioner's Exempt List gives them cover because they are still getting paid.

Hardy may have screwed himself with his contract structure.

Getting an injunction from the Courts may be the final recourse and they have been reluctant in the past to get involved when CBAs are in place.

There is always the chance that Peterson's appeal is heard first and establishes the law of the land. The NFLPA has been told their Contempt of Court hearing will be held on Aug 13th.