What is taking so long with Greg Hardy?

[Silverstar]

Will somebody grow a pair and make this decision already.

 

[guag]

playing in games is a different animal from study,working out and and camp

Games are only 3 hours though, working out and practicing is a daily affair, many hours a day in many cases.

 

[Tabascocat]

I am not worried about Hardy being ready, it is that other guy who got suspended

Can we count on Ro to have himself in game-shape?

 

[Galian Beast]

The NFL has said they aren't using the new guidelines with Hardy. They can't honestly just refuse to rule on Hardy's appeal because there is different Federal appeal in progress. Hardy hasn't even got to the Federal court level yet. Once they rule on Hardy, then it can be rolled into the Doty case, if applicable.

Not how it works.

The NFL said that Hardy's suspension fits under either guidelines. Something that was obviously bunk. And why Hardy was cited in the contempt case. The NFLPA isn't waiting for a ruling on Hardy before bringing it to Doty, and the NFL can wait as long as they want, as evidenced by the fact that they've waited like six weeks so far and haven't addressed Peterson suspension per court order.

 

[Nightman]

Not how it works.

The NFL said that Hardy's suspension fits under either guidelines. Something that was obviously bunk. And why Hardy was cited in the contempt case. The NFLPA isn't waiting for a ruling on Hardy before bringing it to Doty, and the NFL can wait as long as they want, as evidenced by the fact that they've waited like six weeks so far and haven't addressed Peterson suspension per court order.

I understand your theory I just don't agree with it. The Hardy case is independent from the Peterson case and needs to be ruled on separately.

Just like the Brady case, the Rice case, the Quarles case, the Spillman case etc...

 

[popp1234]

I understand your theory I just don't agree with it. The Hardy case is independent from the Peterson case and needs to be ruled on separately.

Just like the Brady case, the Rice case, the Quarles case, the Spillman case etc...

Truth is, nobody knows. Let's just wait and see.

 

[Wood]

Not how it works.

The NFL said that Hardy's suspension fits under either guidelines. Something that was obviously bunk. And why Hardy was cited in the contempt case. The NFLPA isn't waiting for a ruling on Hardy before bringing it to Doty, and the NFL can wait as long as they want, as evidenced by the fact that they've waited like six weeks so far and haven't addressed Peterson suspension per court order.

the NFL wont be afforded that leeway during the season. The union will sue if NFL drags its feet during season.

 

[Galian Beast]

the NFL wont be afforded that leeway during the season. The union will sue if NFL drags its feet during season.

Again, this will be resolved well before the season starts.

 

[Galian Beast]

I understand your theory I just don't agree with it. The Hardy case is independent from the Peterson case and needs to be ruled on separately.

Just like the Brady case, the Rice case, the Quarles case, the Spillman case etc...

Not a theory. You don't understand precedence.

The NFLPA themselves have cited this case in the contempt case against the NFL. They are clearly linked. Plain as day.

 

[mickswag]

Report: Cowboys’ Greg Hardy losing will to fight NFL over suspension

Published: July 7, 2015 1:30 pm

Greg Hardy might not be willing to bring the NFL to court if his suspension were reduced.

Hardy is “losing some of his will to fight,” reports Jason Cole of Bleacher Report, citing sources close to Hardy.

Cole reports that if Hardy can get some sort of reduction in his 10-game suspension, perhaps down to eight or six games, he may be willing to drop any further action against the NFL.

Hardy is worn down from a legal process and appeals process that has taken more than a year.

The Dallas Cowboys’ defender argued at an appeal hearing in late May for his 10-game suspension to be overturned or reduced.

Harold Henderson, a former NFL executive, heard the appeal in a session that reportedly lasted more than seven hours. He’s the same person who upheld the commissioner’s punishment on Minnesota running back Adrian Peterson last season, a case that eventually wound up in court before Peterson was reinstated by the league.

There appear to be at least two points of contention from Hardy’s perspective. The first is that he was found not guilty in the eyes of the law.

A judge did find Hardy guilty of domestic violence in July of 2014 and gave him 18 months probation after suspending a 60-day jail sentence. But Hardy and his attorney appealed, asking for a jury trial in a superior court. Charges were dismissed earlier this year when prosecutors were unable to locate the accuser, Nicole Holder, who failed to appear in court.

The second point of contention is that commissioner Roger Goodell’s punishment is excessive in light of what was outlined in the personal conduct policy (two games) at the time of the incident.

Goodell informed Hardy of his ruling in a letter. He told the Pro Bowl defensive end that the league’s extensive two-month investigation “determined that there was sufficient credible evidence that Hardy engaged in conduct that violated NFL policies in multiple respects and with aggravating circumstances.’’

The letter went on to inform Hardy that the investigation concluded that Hardy used physical force against his former girlfriend in at least four instances that included placing his hands around her neck and applying enough pressure to leave visible marks, shoving her against a wall and throwing her on a futon covered with at least four semi-automatic rifles.

“The net effect of these acts was that Ms. Holder was severely traumatized and sustained a range of injuries, including bruises and scratches on her neck, shoulders, upper chest, back, arms and feet,” Goodell wrote in the letter. “The use of physical force under the circumstances present here, against a woman substantially smaller than you and in the presence of powerful, military-style assault weapons, constitutes a significant act of violence in violation of the Personal Conduct Policy.”

Goodell stated in his view, the length of the suspension was appropriate under any version of the personal conduct policy or its predecessors.

Columnist Tim Cowlishaw was recently asked in a chat, do you think there is a chance that on appeal Greg Hardy might get a couple of games shaved off the suspension?

Cowlishaw: Yes, I think he has a better chance of reducing his suspension than Tom Brady does. I think that was the point of the NFL announcing 10. They want him to get six so you start with 10 and hope you hang onto six with the appeal going to an arbitrator.

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...osing-will-to-fight-nfl-over-suspension.html/

 

[erod]

How did Bleacher Report go from being a bunch of know-nothing fans on a website to a "source"?

That's like quoting my sister as a source about the Kardashians.

 

[cowboyvic]

Now 40 days and counting. i tried to tell some of you that this is about screwing Hardy and the cowboys. but naw i was told they were waiting to do it over the 4th of July holiday. this is no accident cowboys fans.when are some of you going to realize the NFL seem hell bent on screwing the Cowboys. did the take away of Dez catch not teach you anything ? or did the un-suspend ofNdamukong Suh , so he could play against Dallas in that playoff game. that is unheard of. the facts don't lie folks.

 

[BoysfanfromCanada]

How did Bleacher Report go from being a bunch of know-nothing fans on a website to a "source"?

That's like quoting my sister as a source about the Kardashians.

Exactly. They're a bunch of Jon Snow's. They know nothing. And the European division knows even less when it comes to soccer rumors.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Hardy is “losing some of his will to fight,” reports Jason Cole of Bleacher Report, citing sources close to Hardy.[/quote]

That is disappointing. As we finally get closer to the start of training camp and the finish line is in sight is no time to show weakness or run out of gas.

 

[AbeBeta]

Now 40 days and counting. i tried to tell some of you that this is about screwing Hardy and the cowboys. but naw i was told they were waiting to do it over the 4th of July holiday. this is no accident cowboys fans.when are some of you going to realize the NFL seem hell bent on screwing the Cowboys. did the take away of Dez catch not teach you anything ? or did the un-suspend ofNdamukong Suh , so he could play against Dallas in that playoff game. that is unheard of. the facts don't lie folks.

How, in any way does the length of the wait on the decision screw anyone. You could argue that if we were in training camp. But we aren't.

You can point to Dez's catch etc. But you are just counting the things that went in the favor of your argument. I know a Lion fan or two who would point out that the refs picked up a flag that against them on what appears a borderline call. Certainly if you are going to screw someone, you don't give them the borderline stuff.

 

[Galian Beast]

I certainly hope that isn't true, because he literally doesn't have to do anything here.

 

[anava]

That is disappointing. As we finally get closer to the start of training camp and the finish line is in sight is no time to show weakness or run out of gas.

I have my foil hat on and thinking maybe they are sending out those vibes just to get the suspension handed out. That way they can get the fight started.

 

[Kaiser]

How did Bleacher Report go from being a bunch of know-nothing fans on a website to a "source"?

That's like quoting my sister as a source about the Kardashians.

Jason Cole is a good guy, I used to subscribe to his Rangers site at Scout.com. But the only difference between him and the posters here at CBZ is ...ummm... I'll get back to you on that.

 

[Nightman]

Jason Cole is a good guy, I used to subscribe to his Rangers site at Scout.com. But the only difference between him and the posters here at CBZ is ...ummm... I'll get back to you on that.

I didn't see any major flaws with the story, provided he heard what he reported.

 

[Rogah]

I have my foil hat on and thinking maybe they are sending out those vibes just to get the suspension handed out. That way they can get the fight started.

It sounds like they're letting it be known they will agree not to sue if the league drops it to 6.