What I've noticed about Miles Austin

[dadymat]

Man, you sure can tell the people who know football from the ones who DON'T in this thread. Austin doesn't run good routes, at all. wow..............

we would love to hear about your pee wee football days, but right now we are having a grown up discussion

 

[theogt]

Michael Irvin used to jump frequently when he didn't have to. If I'm not mistaken Terry Glenn did also. I'm not arguing Ogletree vs. Austin just making an observation.

When he gets Mike's cred, he can do whatever the hell he wants. It's like catching a pop fly with one hand. You can do it if you've got a $50 million contract. Otherwise, use both hands.

 

[bbgun]

That's true. It wasn't a "bad throw" like others are assuming, because Tony threw it where he threw it on purpose.

It was slightly behind him. A truly bad throw would have missed Austin completely.

 

[odog422]

Wow, so I'm watching this game now, and I don't get all the Austin hate coming from this game. He looks just fine. He slipped on that comeback route, but otherwise is having a good game.

Agree. And agree with earlier poster that it's VERY significant that Austin has produced IN GAMES in limited opportunities. That combined with his steady improvement makes me wonder of all the things to talk about in this game why this thread was generated.

 

[TheCount]

Those people are also mad that he is challenging board-favorite, Sam Hurd.

I just can't understand why folks can't like all of our players. Especially the ones that work hard and contribute....like Hurd and Austin.

Hardly. Name one WR on our roster who doesn't get hated on. They all do.

 

[DallasDomination]

Never mind Austin. Has anyone noticed that Tony jumps/hops into the air on shotgun snaps, even if the snap isn't high? Can't believe the coaches haven't corrected this by now. You're losing precious seconds when your feet aren't on the ground.

yes I have noticed that...he needs to correct that ASAP.

 

[rkell87]

Are you saying Miles Austin, a receiver who caught 3 touchdowns in a four week stretch last year, can only help the Cowboys if he's starting?

That is crazy talk.

We've got a nice stable of receivers and all can do different things to help the team win games.

yes. we groomed him to be #2 and his routes are not good enough for the slot. if he is not #2 at the end of this year he isnt worth a vet contract.

 

[BAT]

Babe and the fans who are down on Austin (what player does NOT have any weaknesses?) are nutz. Austin is only going to get better the more reps he gets. Austin was the guy that Romo was touting all of last pre-season, same as everyone's favorite underdog, Oggletree this preseason.

I think I would rather trust Romo's judgement on who are the good receivers on this team.

 

[NextGenBoys]

exactly.

whoever thinks he runs good routes has no clue what good routes are.

they must not have heard him get called out last night by Babe for running with poor weight distribution making his cuts awkward.

passes routinely being sailed over one's head means that either the qb is awful or the player can't run routes. as fast as austin is straight ahead he is horridly slow in and out of breaks.

he does run nice crossing routes because that requires no real break just speed.

wr speed is about balance and agility, austin has track speed.

austin should have a package of plays but he isn't a starter in the nfl by far.

Bingo.

I think Collinsworth said it tonight, or in Madden, but getting open is more about your breaks than what type of speed you have.

And yes, I'm Pro-Hurd and will admit it, but you can see the difference in route running between the two, and Hurd is no master himself.

 

[jterrell]

Babe and the fans who are down on Austin (what player does NOT have any weaknesses?) are nutz. Austin is only going to get better the more reps he gets. Austin was the guy that Romo was touting all of last pre-season, same as everyone's favorite underdog, Oggletree this preseason.

I think I would rather trust Romo's judgement on who are the good receivers on this team.

rofl....

ogletree is an undrafted rookie yet he makes more plays than austin.
that is why he has fans.

austin isn't a young pup... he has actual mechanical issues with his route-running that limit him same a guy with 4.7 speed would be limited.

he can only run routes that doe not require breaks and his hands are at best mediocre.

he is a solid special teamer and a 10 play per game guy but it really is a shame we didn't get a 2nd round pick for him out of the jets.

 

[theogt]

Bingo.

I think Collinsworth said it tonight, or in Madden, but getting open is more about your breaks than what type of speed you have.

And yes, I'm Pro-Hurd and will admit it, but you can see the difference in route running between the two, and Hurd is no master himself.

You can complain about Austin's routes all you want. But if you're going to claim he doesn't get open, you'll look silly.

 

[BAT]

rofl....

ogletree is an undrafted rookie yet he makes more plays than austin.
that is why he has fans.

austin isn't a young pup... he has actual mechanical issues with his route-running that limit him same a guy with 4.7 speed would be limited.

he can only run routes that doe not require breaks and his hands are at best mediocre.

he is a solid special teamer and a 10 play per game guy but it really is a shame we didn't get a 2nd round pick for him out of the jets.

That is pure BS, you are making Austin to be some scrub. Are you saying that Austin plays like he runs a 4.7 40??? Stop talking like you know jack. If Austin could not play fast, then he would not be the big play threat the Cowboys have touted him to be. The Cowboys let go of Owens b/c they saw the potential in both Roy and Miles.

Prior to his injury last season, Austin outplayed EVERY WR not named Terrell Owens. Just check your ignorance at the door. Just b/c he is not having a great preseason does not mean he is some waste of a roster spot.


You have heard that the Cowboys have yet to unveil most of their offense, that includes routes/plays that stretch the field, right?? Let's see how much you crow IN the regular season about Austin's faults.

 

[jterrell]

You can complain about Austin's routes all you want. But if you're going to claim he doesn't get open, you'll look silly.

claiming he is always open is pointless, silly and impossible to prove.

tell me when he produces yardage and receptions.

i have no problem crediting him for the pass interference calls he has drawn and giving him credit for outstanding blocks, but he absolutely gets zero credit from me because some random person saw him open on a play.

austin has a real chance to help this team as a special teamer and depth WR but all those who claimed he was gonna start and do all these big things need to give that dream up toute suite.

the consistents for austin are he lacks production, can't stay healthy and has this weird fan boy following. when guys can play they produce, simple as that.

 

[jterrell]

That is pure BS, you are making Austin to be some scrub. Are you saying that Austin plays like he runs a 4.7 40??? Stop talking like you know jack. If Austin could not play fast, then he would not be the big play threat the Cowboys have touted him to be. The Cowboys let go of Owens b/c they saw the potential in both Roy and Miles.

Prior to his injury last season, Austin outplayed EVERY WR not named Terrell Owens. Just check your ignorance at the door. Just b/c he is not having a great preseason does not mean he is some waste of a roster spot.


You have heard that the Cowboys have yet to unveil most of their offense, that includes routes/plays that stretch the field, right?? Let's see how much you crow IN the regular season about Austin's faults.

more ROFL....

calm down it will be ok.

Austin outperformed who, when exactly?
He had 13 total catches man, you really all worked up over that?

I actually played WR and understand the basics of route-running. It is not complicated at all. Austin just doesn't do it well. A lot of very fast guys do not do it well.

I never said Austin was a waste of a roster spot. I said he isn't a starter in this league. And he isn't. He didn't just not beat out Crayton, he has been outplayed by Hurd and Ogletree.

The Cowboys offensive options are: barber, jones, witten, rw11, crayton, martyb all well before austin....

hurd, choice and ogletree are right there with him if not also ahead of him.

so i'll not get that crow warmed up just yet....

 

[UnoDallas]

claiming he is always open is pointless, silly and impossible to prove.

tell me when he produces yardage and receptions.

i have no problem crediting him for the pass interference calls he has drawn and giving him credit for outstanding blocks, but he absolutely gets zero credit from me because some random person saw him open on a play.

austin has a real chance to help this team as a special teamer and depth WR but all those who claimed he was gonna start and do all these big things need to give that dream up toute suite.

the consistents for austin are he lacks production, can't stay healthy and has this weird fan boy following. when guys can play they produce, simple as that.

Averages 19 yards per catch that not productive ???????????

give him time for the number of catches we had Tool here last year
who do you think going to get the ball ??????????

Before Saturday, the refrain coming from Austin, Tony Romo, assistant head coach Jason Garrett and just about everyone affiliated with the offense was the same: It is the preseason. Don't worry.

"It's all about what the defense gives you that day," Romo said before the Niners' game. "Some defenses want to keep everything in front of them ... well, you have to throw it in front of them. Other defenses want to attack you and get after you, then the possibilities of big plays come about.
"I think when the season ends and you look at 20-plus yard plays, I think we'll be the same as we were the last few years."

When he decided to cut Owens in the off-season, owner and general manager Jerry Jones said it was partly to help Austin's development. Jones went so far as to say Austin could bring the same things to the offense as Owens did.

All this despite 18 career catches.

Austin's first catch in the 2006 preseason was a 48-yard touchdown grab against New Orleans from Romo. Since then he has flashed the big-play potential but never in long stretches.

Part of it was opportunity, considering he had been behind Owens, Terry Glenn, Roy Williams and Patrick Crayton at wide receiver. Part of it was health. He had knee injuries last season that kept him out of four games.
In a win at Green Bay last season he had two catches for 115 yards, including a 52-yard touchdown.

While his speed has been his best asset, Austin wants to be looked at for more than stretching the defense.

"I feel like if you look at the practice film work I can do other things," Austin said. "I can go over the middle, underneath, reverses. Whatever it is."

don't worry about Austin

 

[jterrell]

That is pure BS, you are making Austin to be some scrub. Are you saying that Austin plays like he runs a 4.7 40??? Stop talking like you know jack. If Austin could not play fast, then he would not be the big play threat the Cowboys have touted him to be. The Cowboys let go of Owens b/c they saw the potential in both Roy and Miles.

Prior to his injury last season, Austin outplayed EVERY WR not named Terrell Owens. Just check your ignorance at the door. Just b/c he is not having a great preseason does not mean he is some waste of a roster spot.


You have heard that the Cowboys have yet to unveil most of their offense, that includes routes/plays that stretch the field, right?? Let's see how much you crow IN the regular season about Austin's faults.

and if you use bold text to quote me why ask what I said.. it is very plainly written.

Austin has route-running limitation same as a 4.7 guy has limitations.

That means he does not have all-world potential as has been played up.
BTW, Jerry said all that nonsense and then the Cowboys had no intention of matching a 2nd round tender on him. They were just pimping him to the highest bidder. 31 teams had a chance and no one bit. Only 1 seriously considered it. Wonder why that it?

The cowboys have offered him zero commitment.

4.7 WRs are possession guys. They can help you but they aren't running full route tables and they aren't stretching the field. Austin isn't a reliable WR because his routes aren't sharp and his hands aren't consistent. He plays a bit out of control because he is not ready to handle WR duties at full speed.

 

[UnoDallas]

claiming he is always open is pointless, silly and impossible to prove.

tell me when he produces yardage and receptions.

i have no problem crediting him for the pass interference calls he has drawn and giving him credit for outstanding blocks, but he absolutely gets zero credit from me because some random person saw him open on a play.

austin has a real chance to help this team as a special teamer and depth WR but all those who claimed he was gonna start and do all these big things need to give that dream up toute suite.

the consistents for austin are he lacks production, can't stay healthy and has this weird fan boy following. when guys can play they produce, simple as that.

http://www.star-telegram.com/332/story/1517854.html?storylink=omni_popular


All three receivers are going to play for the Cowboys, but only Austin has the skill set — size and speed — to provide the vertical threat the passing game lost with the departure of Terrell Owens. Owner Jerry Jones has gone so far as to cite Austin’s potential and ability to make the big play as a reason the Cowboys could finally rid themselves of Owens

Receivers coach Ray Sherman said the expectations are legitimate and warranted based on the flashes of potential Austin has shown. "No, no," said Sherman, when asked if too much is being asked of Austin. "I’m going to give you an example. When I was in Green Bay, we had a guy named Donald Driver. He hardly ever played. All of sudden, he got an opportunity and he showed he was a great football player. It’s the same thing with Miles. Miles is a bigger version of that. If you can keep him healthy, you will see some great things from Miles."

Lets look at Austin’s past
During his college football days at Monmouth, Austin caught 150 passes for 2,867 yards and 33 touchdowns. He is the school record-holder in receiving yards. Austin rushed 15 times for 140 yards and one touchdown.
In 2003, Austin set a Monmouth single-season record for touchdown catches with 12.

the boy can play

 

[jterrell]

Averages 19 yards per catch that not productive ???????????

give him time for the number of catches we had Tool here last year
who do you think going to get the ball ??????????

Before Saturday, the refrain coming from Austin, Tony Romo, assistant head coach Jason Garrett and just about everyone affiliated with the offense was the same: It is the preseason. Don't worry.

"It's all about what the defense gives you that day," Romo said before the Niners' game. "Some defenses want to keep everything in front of them ... well, you have to throw it in front of them. Other defenses want to attack you and get after you, then the possibilities of big plays come about.
"I think when the season ends and you look at 20-plus yard plays, I think we'll be the same as we were the last few years."

When he decided to cut Owens in the off-season, owner and general manager Jerry Jones said it was partly to help Austin's development. Jones went so far as to say Austin could bring the same things to the offense as Owens did.

All this despite 18 career catches.

Austin's first catch in the 2006 preseason was a 48-yard touchdown grab against New Orleans from Romo. Since then he has flashed the big-play potential but never in long stretches.

Part of it was opportunity, considering he had been behind Owens, Terry Glenn, Roy Williams and Patrick Crayton at wide receiver. Part of it was health. He had knee injuries last season that kept him out of four games.
In a win at Green Bay last season he had two catches for 115 yards, including a 52-yard touchdown.

While his speed has been his best asset, Austin wants to be looked at for more than stretching the defense.

"I feel like if you look at the practice film work I can do other things," Austin said. "I can go over the middle, underneath, reverses. Whatever it is."

don't worry about Austin

wow... did they let you guys graduate high school with logic like that?

austin doesn't catch many passes period. 19 ypc is pointless when you catch 1 pass a game.

He had a great game versus green bay. The kind of game good WRs have much more than once every 4 years but that's STILL a 2 catch football game. lol.

Outside that 1 game he had just over 150 yards receiving all year.

 

[jterrell]

http://www.star-telegram.com/332/story/1517854.html?storylink=omni_popular


All three receivers are going to play for the Cowboys, but only Austin has the skill set — size and speed — to provide the vertical threat the passing game lost with the departure of Terrell Owens. Owner Jerry Jones has gone so far as to cite Austin’s potential and ability to make the big play as a reason the Cowboys could finally rid themselves of Owens

Receivers coach Ray Sherman said the expectations are legitimate and warranted based on the flashes of potential Austin has shown. "No, no," said Sherman, when asked if too much is being asked of Austin. "I’m going to give you an example. When I was in Green Bay, we had a guy named Donald Driver. He hardly ever played. All of sudden, he got an opportunity and he showed he was a great football player. It’s the same thing with Miles. Miles is a bigger version of that. If you can keep him healthy, you will see some great things from Miles."

Lets look at Austin’s past
During his college football days at Monmouth, Austin caught 150 passes for 2,867 yards and 33 touchdowns. He is the school record-holder in receiving yards. Austin rushed 15 times for 140 yards and one touchdown.
In 2003, Austin set a Monmouth single-season record for touchdown catches with 12.

the boy can play

hahahahahahahahahahaha...
can i show you all the barbie carpenter and dwayne goodrich coaches quotes now?

please stop posting comic relief.

austin's past?? dude did you really post stuff from monmouth as proof of something?

wake me up when he puts up stats that matter and show up here: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AustMi00.htm

 

[NextGenBoys]

You can complain about Austin's routes all you want. But if you're going to claim he doesn't get open, you'll look silly.

Where did I ever do such a thing?

He gets open at times because defenses are not keying on him, and he runs fairly simple routes at times.

I'm not saying he's horrible, but I dont think he's a good route runner, and I dont think he has good hands.

If he can catch a few big gainers this year and keep defenes honest, I'll be happy.