What player will be affected most by Phillips

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GoinForSix;1374511 said:
Saints game did us in. Teams saw that we rely heavily on one on one match ups so they would just isolate our guys, get them in space, and tear us apart. James however played very well IMHO the first half of the year, but down the stretch he looked like a rookie.

Thats kinda what I was thinking. Parcells defense was always very basic, and he would stick to the same "song and dance" even if it was being picked apart. Thats why I feel that James will benefit most. You could say pretty much the same for Roy, but he still made an impact last year at times. James IMO though, compared to 05, just disappeared.
 

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numnuts23;1374518 said:
Thats kinda what I was thinking. Parcells defense was always very basic, and he would stick to the same "song and dance" even if it was being picked apart. Thats why I feel that James will benefit most. You could say pretty much the same for Roy, but he still made an impact last year at times. James IMO though, compared to 05, just disappeared.

I'm biased, I read so many articles about Bradie James that I fell in love with his character, as opposed to his actual performance on the field. What is it with LSU players we draft? David Lefleur (sp), Green, Spears, James.
 

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GoinForSix;1374495 said:
He played like a pro bowler for the first 10 weeks of the year, then BPs scheme got exposed.


I don't know... I was on the Bradie James bandwagon for the first part of the season, for sure, and I was happy when we signed him to a new contract. However, was it the scheme that got exposed or was it Bradie?

Like theogt mentioned, it could be a case of James having severe limitations and teams eventually found those and simply isolated him putting him in those situations where he is limited. If that's the case, a new coach and a new scheme might help, but you can bet that teams will attempt to get Bradie into those same situations where he's not good.

Coverage, for instance. Will Wade find ways to limit the times Bradie has to drop into coverage, or will a different ILB need to be in there in order to provide solid coverage down the middle of the field? If the latter is the case, then we wasted a lot of money resigning James.

I really don't know, and it's all speculation at this point, but I know we can't allow James to trail a TE by 5 yards down the center of the field anymore or we'll get the same bad results as last year.

To sum it up: I hope it was the scheme and not Bradie being too limited to play that position. If he is too limited, then I think we need to take the cap hit and get someone else in there who can play. We'll be paying James' salary anyway... we might as well be doing it while having good play from ILB... even if it's from someone else.
 

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AsthmaField;1374565 said:
I don't know... I was on the Bradie James bandwagon for the first part of the season, for sure, and I was happy when we signed him to a new contract. However, was it the scheme that got exposed or was it Bradie?

Like theogt mentioned, it could be a case of James having severe limitations and teams eventually found those and simply isolated him putting him in those situations where he is limited. If that's the case, a new coach and a new scheme might help, but you can bet that teams will attempt to get Bradie into those same situations where he's not good.

Coverage, for instance. Will Wade find ways to limit the times Bradie has to drop into coverage, or will a different ILB need to be in there in order to provide solid coverage down the middle of the field? If the latter is the case, then we wasted a lot of money resigning James.

I really don't know, and it's all speculation at this point, but I know we can't allow James to trail a TE by 5 yards down the center of the field anymore or we'll get the same bad results as last year.

To sum it up: I hope it was the scheme and not Bradie being too limited to play that position. If he is too limited, then I think we need to take the cap hit and get someone else in there who can play. We'll be paying James' salary anyway... we might as well be doing it while having good play from ILB... even if it's from someone else.

Not applying pressure on the QB makes it easy for QBs to pick apart a MLB covering a TE. Even Urlacher would've gotten exposed with the way our D-Line played last year.
 

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Ware --

Could become a bonified super star under the Phillips 34.
 

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Clove;1374579 said:
Ware --

Could become a bonified super star under the Phillips 34.

11.5 sacks under BP's vanilla 3-4. With Wade bringing Ware from all different angles and geting the most out of his pass rushing ability we'll really be able to have some Merriman vs Ware debates, I'm expecting some Charles Haley like performances out of 94 next year.
 

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i think with the new pass rush....watch out for our Corners...you got 1 whos a ball hawk..and the other who plays coverage so well it looks like the reciever has a blanket on him....and our 3rd corner who loves to break on passes n jump routes when the passer has to rush his throws

but i think Ware and or DE's will dominate this year.....

and i also think this will def help watkins
 

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AsthmaField;1374435 said:
I really hope that you're correct about that. How do you think Spears fits Wade's system better than he did Parcells? I'm being serious... I'm not that familiar with Wade's system, other than simply watching San Diego this year.

In other words... how does Wade use his DE's differently than Bill did? I know Bill was read and react... what whill Wade have him doing? Serious question.

Thanks in advance.

Spears is a guy who is quick for a man his size and is pretty explosive. I thought seeing him in college that he was athletic for his size and I was very happy when we made the pick, because I thought he was a pretty good player in college.

Thing is, his best assets are is his quickness and agility, not his overall power. So in Parcells scheme where you have to take on the tackle one-on-one does not play into Spears' strengths as well, but slanting, stunting, shooting gaps plays much more to Spears' strengths.

Phillips also said he looks at the player and makes the system fit the player. That should help Spears.
 

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I think this is a easy one.

Demarcus Ware was going to be good regardless of scheme or whatever. He will be produce more in the pass rush department this year but I dont think hes the guy who is affected the most.

That would be Roy Williams.

Roy Williams is going to be involved in the scheme of things. Phillips coaches to players strengths.

If Roy comes into the season in good shape then I would expect him to have a monster year and make a push at Defensive Player of the Year.
 

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AsthmaField;1374435 said:
I really hope that you're correct about that. How do you think Spears fits Wade's system better than he did Parcells? I'm being serious... I'm not that familiar with Wade's system, other than simply watching San Diego this year.

In other words... how does Wade use his DE's differently than Bill did? I know Bill was read and react... what whill Wade have him doing? Serious question.

Thanks in advance.

As Wade said in his press conference, his style of 3-4 is a 1 gap system and not a 2 gap system like we've run over the past 2 years.
As I understand it, in the 2 gap system the DLine's main responsibility is to force the OLine to double team them so the ILB's don't have OLinemen coming at them. That's why you hear about the DLinemen saying they won't get many sacks or make many plays in that system... they're just cloggers basically.

A big difference between our previous scheme and Phillips' scheme is the fact that the DLinemen are more free to attack. Take a look at a Cowboys game in 06.
On 1st and 2nd down passing plays, watch the reaction of our DLinemen. You will literally see our DLinemen just stand there on some plays. The OLine starts backpedaling forming the pocket and its probably a second or more before Spears and Canty start rushing the QB. At the snap, they pretty much just stand up to figure out what the play is and THEN start rushing.

In Phillips' Defense, the DLine just blow out of their stance and start heading upfield. The Phillips defense trusts the ILBers more to be able to shed blockers and make plays because each player in the front 7 has 1 gap responsibility instead of the 3 down linemen having to cover 2 gaps in our old scheme.

This new scheme will help just about every player on our defense. It'll help Bradie James because it SHOULD limit the time the QB has to throw... that translates into not having enough time to send your TE on a deep seam route. This also helps the entire secondary because they should only have to cover for 3 seconds or so instead of 5 seconds.
It'll help our OLB's and DE's because it will bring pressure from all over the Line of Scrimmage. You'll see delayed blitzes, more than 1 player rushing at the same gap, and fake blitzes that draw the blockers away from the real rushers. All 3 of these techniques were rarely ever used in our old defense.
 

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Julius Jones on the offensive side of the ball.

Chris Canty defensively. I'll be disappointed if he doesn't reach Luis Castillo numbers in this system.
 

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GoinForSix;1374566 said:
Not applying pressure on the QB makes it easy for QBs to pick apart a MLB covering a TE. Even Urlacher would've gotten exposed with the way our D-Line played last year.


I see what you're saying... and you might be right. However, James really did look like he was getting exploited a lot in the last half of last season.

Now you could say that's about the time Ellis went down, and you'd be correct... but I'm not so sure that the lack of pressure is why James got himself so out of position so many times. Some guys have a knack for coverage and some don't. Maybe James doesn't.

Like I said, I don't know. I don't watch film like the coaches to know, but to my untrained eye, the problems with James in coverage looked to be more than simply a lack of pressure up front.

Ware didn't get exploited in coverage, and when he was in coverage, the pass rush was surely suffering without his pressure. Yet, he held his own in coverage. James couldn't do very well at it with Ware pressuring the QB, so maybe that wasn't it. Who knows?

Using your Bears example... they didn't have the best pressure either and Urlacher seemed to do pretty well in coverage.

Bottom line is that only the coaches will really know if he's a problem in coverage and if he really needs to be out of the lineup or out of the lineup on passing downs.

As usual... time will tell.
 

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dboyz;1374666 said:
Spears is a guy who is quick for a man his size and is pretty explosive. I thought seeing him in college that he was athletic for his size and I was very happy when we made the pick, because I thought he was a pretty good player in college.

Thing is, his best assets are is his quickness and agility, not his overall power. So in Parcells scheme where you have to take on the tackle one-on-one does not play into Spears' strengths as well, but slanting, stunting, shooting gaps plays much more to Spears' strengths.

Phillips also said he looks at the player and makes the system fit the player. That should help Spears.

Thanks for the answer, bro. I too thought that Spears was as athletic a big guy as I've ever seen. At 300 lbs. he moves like a guy 250. If Wade can free him up from having to hold and shed blockers at the LOS, he could indeed make a big jump. His movement skills, including lateral movement are rare for a guy his size. That's why I've been dissapointed in his career thus far. Hopefully he'll be able to use his athleticism now, and flow to the ball.
 

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TEK2000;1374725 said:
As Wade said in his press conference, his style of 3-4 is a 1 gap system and not a 2 gap system like we've run over the past 2 years.
As I understand it, in the 2 gap system the DLine's main responsibility is to force the OLine to double team them so the ILB's don't have OLinemen coming at them. That's why you hear about the DLinemen saying they won't get many sacks or make many plays in that system... they're just cloggers basically.

A big difference between our previous scheme and Phillips' scheme is the fact that the DLinemen are more free to attack. Take a look at a Cowboys game in 06.
On 1st and 2nd down passing plays, watch the reaction of our DLinemen. You will literally see our DLinemen just stand there on some plays. The OLine starts backpedaling forming the pocket and its probably a second or more before Spears and Canty start rushing the QB. At the snap, they pretty much just stand up to figure out what the play is and THEN start rushing.

In Phillips' Defense, the DLine just blow out of their stance and start heading upfield. The Phillips defense trusts the ILBers more to be able to shed blockers and make plays because each player in the front 7 has 1 gap responsibility instead of the 3 down linemen having to cover 2 gaps in our old scheme.

This new scheme will help just about every player on our defense. It'll help Bradie James because it SHOULD limit the time the QB has to throw... that translates into not having enough time to send your TE on a deep seam route. This also helps the entire secondary because they should only have to cover for 3 seconds or so instead of 5 seconds.
It'll help our OLB's and DE's because it will bring pressure from all over the Line of Scrimmage. You'll see delayed blitzes, more than 1 player rushing at the same gap, and fake blitzes that draw the blockers away from the real rushers. All 3 of these techniques were rarely ever used in our old defense.

Thanks man... that's exactly the info I was looking for. I missed the press conference and so didn't hear that he runs a 1 gap 3-4. That will make all the difference in the world to Spears, Canty and Fergie. With Spears athleticism, I wouldn't be surprised to see him have a huge year, sack wise.

Oh man... this is going to be great!
 

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Galian Beast;1374279 said:
Offense:
Tony Romo: Will Philips improve our offensive line to give him more time? Maybe draft a young stud receiver for him.

Julius Jones: Will the way we call running plays and use Jones change? Will Phillips fix our oline to create more holes for him?

Marion Barber: Will we use him more? Possibly as the primary back?

Jason Witten: Will we use him more as a receiving threat and less for blocking?

Anthony Fasano: Will Philips allow him bloom in his second year, or will we drop the two tight end formation all together?

Terrell Owens: Will our offense be gameplaned around getting him the ball in situations he can make a difference? I.E. quick slants and WR screens?

Patrick Crayton: Will he become a more pivotal part of our offense?

Defense:
Ware/Greg Ellis: Will he be used to blitz more, and less in coverage making him more useful in the 3-4?

Canty/Spears: Will he use them better as DE in the 3-4? Will they be the first round quality defensive ends we thought they would be?

Bobby Carpenter: will he replace Greg Ellis?

Roy Williams: Will he be used closer to the line this year?


I hope Wade reads your post and hits them all!!!!!
 
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