what salary cap!!!

[redskins1]

the cap is only in place for the teams that need a out on not to sign there current players,or a excuse for there fans on why they didnt try and sign a certain player on the FA market..i will admit my Commanders have over spent on our new additions..but our coaching staff has identified what they needed at certain positions to improve on what was accomplished this past season,and went out got what we needed to go further..forget about the cap..the cap will go up every year,and how much it goes up has been estimated by our FO,which inturn gives them the peace of mind to go out and sign all these guys at a higher pay scale...ONLY the teams who are concerned more about the bottomline will approach it differently..again the FA we have just signed our not the top of the line,but they fit into what we are trying to do,to win the whole damn thing...AND THATS WHY THEY PLAY THIS GAME!!!

 

[Jarv]

the cap is only in place for the teams that need a out on not to sign there current players,or a excuse for there fans on why they didnt try and sign a certain player on the FA market..i will admit my Commanders have over spent on our new additions..but our coaching staff has identified what they needed at certain positions to improve on what was accomplished this past season,and went out got what we needed to go further..forget about the cap..the cap will go up every year,and how much it goes up has been estimated by our FO,which inturn gives them the peace of mind to go out and sign all these guys at a higher pay scale...ONLY the teams who are concerned more about the bottomline will approach it differently..again the FA we have just signed our not the top of the line,but they fit into what we are trying to do,to win the whole damn thing...AND THATS WHY THEY PLAY THIS GAME!!!

Wow.

Lets play !

 

[redskins1]

mod's..could you put this thread in opinion zone also...is that possible?

 

[TobiasEagle77]

If the salary cap does not exist...

why didn't the skins resign Antonio Pierce?

 

[TobiasEagle77]

If I may answer my own rhetorical question:

It does exist.

And the Commanders, while not undergoing the cap hell many expected, annually remain in cap pergatory.

This pergatory is evident by two undisputable facts.

The Commanders have a paper-thin roster. Their backups consist entirely of UDFA rookies and guys who can't find a job before camp rolls around. One injury at the right position, and the skins can say goodbye to the playoffs and hello to Ray Brown.

The Commanders have geniously manuevered their way under the salary cap and thus won the enviable prize of perrenial bottom feeders of the NFC East (with the lone exception of last years pathetic playoff appearance).

 

[redskins1]

they didnt feel antonio pierce was worth what he wanted,they had somebody who could do it just as good,and our d didnt miss a beat...but they will over pay for a player who they feel is a upgrade..you feel what im saying?

 

[TobiasEagle77]

Hmm... I coulda swore that the Commanders identified him as a core player* and were regretfull that they weren't able to resign him under the salary cap. In fact, I'm pretty sure that they specifically identified salary cap restraints as a reason.

*core player, from danielsnydersdictionary.com = thanks for your great play buddy, but that dude over there has a perty name, so we won't be needing your services anymore

 

[KINGBRICE_28]

*yawn*

Not to turn against my own kind bro but sometimes fellow skins kill me with these threads......

 

[SkinsandTerps]

*yawn*

Not to turn against my own kind bro but sometimes fellow skins kill me with these threads......

You of all people. haha. Still love you as a fan though.

redskins1, your post is typical of a teenager. If you want to come to another fans board to talk smack and brag than be concise and yet informative. Otherwise they will try to bash you, or call you a troll.

Tobias, if you cant spell purgatory than you shouldnt use it repeatedly in a post. And I hate to talk about grammar because I always spell or post something imperfect. On to better things, We all saw how deep the Eagles roster was last season. Please never bring up depth again. 0-6 in the division says it all for me.

The Commanders didnt sign Pierce because they were in a situation where they had to cut or trade Coles, which was a 9M cap hit. They lost any type of bargaining power when that happened. Smoot was always considered a nickelback by anyone outside of Commanders fandom. They always claimed he looked good because of Bailey, he looked good because of Springs.

How good did he look playing for the Vikings year one ?

 

[TobiasEagle77]

Alright, I should have looked up purgatory especially if I used it more than once. Small mistake, irrelevant though. I'll continue to use words that I might not spell correctly, and look them up when I have time. Even at the risk of mis-spelling. I live on the edge like that.

Plainly stated, you are using severe hyperbole when using the 2005 Eagles as an example of poor depth. DEPTH is a relative term. To compare the Eagles depth and skins depth is laughable.

By the end of the year, we were down to
2nd string quarterback
3rd string running back
3rd receiver playing 1 receiver spot
4th receiver playing 2 spot
5th receiver playing slot
3rd string left tackle
2nd string left guard
2nd string center
2nd string left end
nickle corner starting at right corner

No team can be expected to have that kind of depth. Losing your starting quarterback alone will usually move a team to the scrap heap.

I propose the following as facts:
- The Commanders have poor depth.
- The Commanders lack continuity. The only continuous trait they possess (sp?) is lack of continuity.
- The Commanders draft poorly.
- A tree should be judged on the fruit it bears. And the Commanders tree has beared rotten fruit under their current personell approach.
- The above four facts (proposed) are directly or indirectly caused by the Commanders pay now any change is good change philosophy.
- The Commanders have outstanding coaches (had to throw something good in)

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Tobias, if you cant spell purgatory than you shouldnt use it repeatedly in a post. And, I hate to talk about grammar because I always spell or post something imperfect. On to better things, We all saw how deep the Eagles roster was last season. Please never bring up depth again. [ ]0-6 in the division says it all for me.

SaT,

Have to admit, you're one of the coolest Skins' fans here ...good football savvy! But before you start criticizing Tobias Eagle 77, you may want to make friends with the "apostrophe" and put your grammactical errors in check.

BTW the 0-6 ...that was 2005!

 

[SkinsandTerps]

I live on the edge like that...



No team can be expected to have that kind of depth. Losing your starting quarterback alone will usually move a team to the scrap heap.

I propose the following as facts:
- The Commanders have poor depth.
- The Commanders lack continuity. The only continuous trait they possess (sp?) is lack of continuity.
- The Commanders draft poorly.
- A tree should be judged on the fruit it bears. And the Commanders tree has beared rotten fruit under their current personell approach.
- The above four facts (proposed) are directly or indirectly caused by the Commanders pay now any change is good change philosophy.
- The Commanders have outstanding coaches (had to throw something good in)

TE, Nice response. Guys/gals with a backbone are always cool in my book.

Commanders depth at QB is superior to every team in the NFL.
Every team has issues of depth, the Commanders in certain areas like OL, or CB, the Cowboys at OL and LB, and so on and so forth for every team in the league.
The Commanders continuity is a concern for me as well, hopefully the coaches have the same concerns.
The Commanders FA approach didnt seem to stop them from getting to the playoffs this past season. The Commanders are not as active in the draft as they are in FA. They want less of a gamble, but at the same time getting a player that has proven he can play in the NFL.
The Commanders draft poorly ? By what example since Gibbs has been in town ? Sean Taylor, Chris Cooley, Carlos Rogers, Jason Campbell, or are you talking about the second day picks that rarely make most teams roster after being on the practice squad for a couple of seasons.

I dont think that one player the Eagles drafted in 2001 is still on the team (I could be wrong of course), maybe broken up Buck. My point is that depth and turnover of rosters is a constant problem. 2003, the Cowboys went into the offseason with 48 players under contract, I think maybe 5 are still with the team.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

SaT,

Have to admit, you're one of the coolest Skins' fans here ...good football savvy! But before you start criticizing Tobias Eagle 77, you may want to make friends with the "apostrophe" and put your grammactical errors in check.

BTW the 0-6 ...that was 2005!

Apostrophe ?
What the heck is that ?
Is that like an apostle ?
I dont think I have that key on my computer.

You sure do use a lot of colors in your posts. I might start calling you the Mimi Bobeck of CZ. Are you trying to distract us common folk with this precisely placed array of rainbow prism of colors ? I'm going to be keeping an eye on you.

And thanks for the compliment. You make a good amount of solid posts as well.

 

[TobiasEagle77]

TE, Nice response. Guys/gals with a backbone are always cool in my book.

SnT
I can't disagree with most of what you say. The Skins look to be moving up since Gibbs came around, and I like how he's used his personell for the most part. Now he's surrounded himself with successful coordinators.

I don't agree with the personell decisions and transactions, but on the other hand Gibbs knows how to utilize talent.

So the coaching staff could be the ex-factor.

Based on past performance, the skins have been managed poorly... but things could turn around.