What Tony Pollard’s Numbers Make Clear

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  1. LovinItAll

    LovinItAll Well-Known Member

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    Man, it isn't your opinion that Zeke is more important, it's a fact.

    I love having Pollard. I was excited/surprised when the Boys drafted him after watching him play 3 years for my Tigers. He's always been fun to watch, especially running back kicks in the college game.

    He's a great player, but he ain't Zeke.
     
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  2. CATCH17

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    It’s professional football.

    Not very often do I look around the league and see all these RBs that have blocking as a problem.

    The only RBs who can’t block well are the guys right out of college and even the college RBs are working on it more because they know it’s a requirement in the pros.
     
  3. Bobhaze

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    I just find that too many people only read post headlines and don’t even bother to read the content. Trying to make it easier for them to know the big ideas, lol.
     
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  4. quickccc

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    There are RBs that skill set make it easier for their OL.
    the decisive ones,.. the quick hitting ones ..the ones that hit/get in and out of holes
    in a blink, they do wonder for their OL blockers cuz they don't have to hold their blocks
    as long.

    Some backs can adjust on the move and re-direct, bounce it outside to a different and open lane.
    While some cannot.

    Now zeke's inside middle run to payday TD, that was both in line blocking and Elliott's skill in
    feeling the hole openings and squeezing-leg driving into the lane for a TD,
     
  5. Doomsday101

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    The evidently you don't look. There are guys who can do some things, not a lot of RB who are all around players capable of doing everything at high level. All OL are taught to block does not mean all NFL OL can block worth a damn. You want to belittle the position be my guest
     
  6. LovinItAll

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    Man, you've missed the entire point of my post and I'm not going to explain it to you. Don't try to school me on running styles. You can't.
     
  7. CATCH17

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    Tony Pollards blocking is fine.. Is it better than Zeke’s? No. But Zeke’s blocking hasn’t exactly correlated to wins over the years.

    It’s a big play league and Pollard is a big play back.

    There is room for both and I like having fresh legs on the field but Tony Pollard is the guy who can crack a game open and make a play for this team.
     
  8. RonnieT24

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    Here are some other numbers for consideration..

    Pollard has had at least 8 carries in a game 13 times in his career.. The good news is that he has over 100 yards in 3 of those games.. The bad news is that he's been held under 3 yards per carry in 3 of those and under 4 yards per carry in 6 ... It has been very much feast or famine up until this year. He has looked more consistent this year.. In addition to delivering some big plays he has delivered some chain moving runs staying away from the negative plays as well. If he keeps it up he absolutely earns more touches. His home run quickness contrasted with Zeke's raw power does wonders to keep defenses off balance. It's like a pitcher changing speed on the same pitch to confound hitters. Using both these guys properly is a task Moore should revel in.
     
  9. CalPolyTechnique

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    This is ole’ Ronald “sleight of hand” T.

    Now post Zeke’s 3 and 4 YPC games.
     
  10. CowboysFaninHouston

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    he should get touches. I think splitting the carries and series between them is good for both and good for the cowboys. people tend to project and take a small sample and project a season. if pollard was full time starter, his numbers wouldn't be anywhere close to what he is doing now.....defenses have to prepare for Zeke and Pollard who are different style runners and makes it very difficult for them. keep it as is. lets see on game day who has the hot hand and just go with it.
     
  11. Whirlwin

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    New house , Dorset
     
  12. Established1971

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    between Zeke and Barkely, I dont think we are going to see any team draft a RB in the top 5 or even 10 in the next 20 years
     
  13. Established1971

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    remember Michael Wiley? His ypc for 2 years as a back up was real high, then he got cut, never played in the nfl again
     
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  14. RonnieT24

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    Sure.. in his career Zeke has been held to 3 ypc or less in 10 of 73 games .. By comparison Pollard has been held to 3 ypc or less in 9 of 33 games.. So one guy is held under 3 ypc in 1/7 of his games.. The other guy almost 1/3..

    Any questions?
     
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  15. RonnieT24

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    Oh sorry you asked for games under 4 as well didn't you..

    Zeke has been held to 4 ypc or less in 20 of 73 games.. 27.4%
    Pollard has been held to 4 ypc or less in 15 of 33 games.. 45.4%

    Clearly Pollard is better.. because ... um.. well.. cause yall say so.. screw what the numbers say..

    Mind you this is happening when one guy is the focal point of opposing defenses while the other is an afterthought and a change of pace back.
     
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  16. CowboysWillRise

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    Yes sir there is a whole slew if these guys littered through NFL history. The guys like Priest Holmes and Micheal Turner are more so the exception. I think there is a lot of context that goes into determining a player is simply a good 3rd down back or an actual baller. Pollard to this point has shown he can do it any down and as a starter in a limited sample size.
     
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  17. Diehardblues

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    One game starting is hardly proven results.

    Pollard is an excellent compliment providing a skill set Elliott doesn’t always provide. But it’s an unknown he’d be as effective as the starting work horse with defenses focusing on stopping him initially.
     
  18. Diehardblues

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    True. And we need to try and minimize or streamline the post so more will read its full content.
     
  19. RonnieT24

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    Hey man I went to Harvard.. I can't speak in two and three word sentences just so softheads can sorta understand. I try to direct my posts to intelligent people.. Stupid people (or those who pretend to be when it suits them) are none of my concern.
     
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  20. Streetwise

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    No, it's not fine. Have you even been watching?
     
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