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- I was against Elliott at 4. I'll say that right up front. I thought there was more value to that pick than taking a TB. But I never doubted he was a talented kid and he showed that in his few carries last night. The most impressive run to me wasn't the trucking of Chancellor or spinning of Chancellor. It was that run outside where most TBs simply can't get to the corner on a NFL D that is attacking the line like Seattle's does. But Elliott somehow, got outside and turned what initially looked like a loss or no gain into a 10 yard run.

- Romo is what Romo is. He's going to be a hold your breath player every time he takes a hit. But like has been pointed out, that was a very weird, awkward hit. I can't imagine him taking hits that wrench his back like that all the time. And the fact he wanted to go back in and seemed, at least partially healthy enough to do it, was a good sign. I tend to look at that one half full instead of half empty.

- Prescott was again impressive............ this time against a pretty good D that while they might not have game planned for the matchup, still were doing things like blitzing, etc. Not nearly as sharp as his two previous games, he still was very, very effective and could have been better if Williams attacks that deep ball and a couple of other drops. I was one that believed the odds of him ever being anything more than a backup were long............ but he's been far better than I ever imagined and while it's still preseason, I don't worry as much about a Romo injury today as I did say a week or so ago. Showing that kind of poise and looking like he just "fit" in that environment with a Seattle D that is very good, has put me a bit at ease. The moment wasn't too big for him which you often see from rookie QBs, even really good ones. The regular season is a different story but at this point, there's not much to not like.

- Free is taking a beating but overall he was OK. And the first team OL was just their typical great selves. Green looked decent early but again seemed to tire out and lose focus. I didn't even notice Leary. Did he play?

- My one fear if Romo does go down........... that Garrett and company will get conservative in playcalling with Prescott. I hope if the moment arises where he has to step in comes up, they let him fling it around and don't get scared and try to play closer to the vest. Frankly, we don't have the defense to try to play that way IMO.

- Pelt me with empty beer cans. Curse me out. Call me a bad fan. Ban me from the board. Steal my children. Poop on my lawn. Whatever you want......... but I am going to go there again. We have an issue at DE. I watched Mayowa a lot last night, and while he didn't get a ton of snaps, in the few he did play, he looked OK. Nothing more, nothing less. It's his first action but I was hoping to see a little juice, a glimpse of what is supposed to be uber athleticism and I just didn't see it. Russell? Nice effort and he did get a bit of pressure but he also found himself out of position a few times and it cost the Cowboys. The battle cry seems to be now for the pass rush - wait until Tapper gets back. If that's what we are left with - hoping Tapper can be the answer - then we have some issues.

- Starting DT rotation looked good. Thornton had a couple of plays later where he penetrated into the backfield and showed decent quickness. Assuming Crawford is back healthy, DT should be a solid group for us. I think, given the issues at DE, the DTs are going to have to really control the opponent's run game.

- I am no Hitchens fan but he has typically played solid. He looked out of sorts last night. Not sure what it was but he made a couple boneheaded decisions.

- Sure, there were a few foibles here and there but overall, I am content with the secondary. At least the starting secondary plus a nickel and dime CB. Back up safety is a problem. So Jones and Church better stay healthy. Wilcox? Ugh. On the positive side, I think you can see the athleticism of Jones. Once he gets settled and gets real game time at FS under his belt, I think he's going to be very, very good. I like Brown as well. He made a couple of mistakes but he flashed some real talent. So if you add him to Claiborne, Scandrick and Carr, that's not a terrible group of CBs. And if they can somehow, someway figure out how to get some pressure on opposing QBs, they might end up being pretty damn good.

- Bailey. Cut him. That 52 yard FG was a shank. LOL.
 

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- I was against Elliott at 4. I'll say that right up front. I thought there was more value to that pick than taking a TB. But I never doubted he was a talented kid and he showed that in his few carries last night. The most impressive run to me wasn't the trucking of Chancellor or spinning of Chancellor. It was that run outside where most TBs simply can't get to the corner on a NFL D that is attacking the line like Seattle's does. But Elliott somehow, got outside and turned what initially looked like a loss or no gain into a 10 yard run.

- Romo is what Romo is. He's going to be a hold your breath player every time he takes a hit. But like has been pointed out, that was a very weird, awkward hit. I can't imagine him taking hits that wrench his back like that all the time. And the fact he wanted to go back in and seemed, at least partially healthy enough to do it, was a good sign. I tend to look at that one half full instead of half empty.

- Prescott was again impressive............ this time against a pretty good D that while they might not have game planned for the matchup, still were doing things like blitzing, etc. Not nearly as sharp as his two previous games, he still was very, very effective and could have been better if Williams attacks that deep ball and a couple of other drops. I was one that believed the odds of him ever being anything more than a backup were long............ but he's been far better than I ever imagined and while it's still preseason, I don't worry as much about a Romo injury today as I did say a week or so ago. Showing that kind of poise and looking like he just "fit" in that environment with a Seattle D that is very good, has put me a bit at ease. The moment wasn't too big for him which you often see from rookie QBs, even really good ones. The regular season is a different story but at this point, there's not much to not like.

- Free is taking a beating but overall he was OK. And the first team OL was just their typical great selves. Green looked decent early but again seemed to tire out and lose focus. I didn't even notice Leary. Did he play?

- My one fear if Romo does go down........... that Garrett and company will get conservative in playcalling with Prescott. I hope if the moment arises where he has to step in comes up, they let him fling it around and don't get scared and try to play closer to the vest. Frankly, we don't have the defense to try to play that way IMO.

- Pelt me with empty beer cans. Curse me out. Call me a bad fan. Ban me from the board. Steal my children. Poop on my lawn. Whatever you want......... but I am going to go there again. We have an issue at DE. I watched Mayowa a lot last night, and while he didn't get a ton of snaps, in the few he did play, he looked OK. Nothing more, nothing less. It's his first action but I was hoping to see a little juice, a glimpse of what is supposed to be uber athleticism and I just didn't see it. Russell? Nice effort and he did get a bit of pressure but he also found himself out of position a few times and it cost the Cowboys. The battle cry seems to be now for the pass rush - wait until Tapper gets back. If that's what we are left with - hoping Tapper can be the answer - then we have some issues.

- Starting DT rotation looked good. Thornton had a couple of plays later where he penetrated into the backfield and showed decent quickness. Assuming Crawford is back healthy, DT should be a solid group for us. I think, given the issues at DE, the DTs are going to have to really control the opponent's run game.

- I am no Hitchens fan but he has typically played solid. He looked out of sorts last night. Not sure what it was but he made a couple boneheaded decisions.

- Sure, there were a few foibles here and there but overall, I am content with the secondary. At least the starting secondary plus a nickel and dime CB. Back up safety is a problem. So Jones and Church better stay healthy. Wilcox? Ugh. On the positive side, I think you can see the athleticism of Jones. Once he gets settled and gets real game time at FS under his belt, I think he's going to be very, very good. I like Brown as well. He made a couple of mistakes but he flashed some real talent. So if you add him to Claiborne, Scandrick and Carr, that's not a terrible group of CBs. And if they can somehow, someway figure out how to get some pressure on opposing QBs, they might end up being pretty damn good.

- Bailey. Cut him. That 52 yard FG was a shank. LOL.

When did you first realize that we have issues at DE? :0
 

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Still not sure why some fans never understood the Elliott pick. The running back/running game is what makes our team tick. Elliott minus the BS distractions that is.

The logic being that the 4th pick would have been better utilized on a defensive player to help our ailing defense or in a trade to get more picks. With this OL you could put a lot of TBs behind it and get a good running game. We are seeing that with Alfred Morris, who looked a bit washed up last year in Washington, and then here he looks like he's found himself again.

So it's not like the logic behind taking Elliott at 4 is somehow faulty. I get why people wanted him.
 

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Great write up. I agree with everything except the 5th point. For some reason I don't think they would get conservative with Dak. I also thought Zeke's most impressive run was the one in your first point.
 

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Still not sure why some fans never understood the Elliott pick. The running back/running game is what makes our team tick. Elliott minus the BS distractions that is.
I think it all comes down to conventional logic. Conventional logic says draft Rb later, they're always there. Cowboys specific logic also says draft RB later, because this line has turned two average to above average RB into players that looked very good to great in the last two years. The front office, I think, said lets put great behind our offensive line and see what that can do.
 

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We need to trade for a DE now!! It's gonna get ugly if we don't.
 

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- Pelt me with empty beer cans. Curse me out. Call me a bad fan. Ban me from the board. Steal my children. Poop on my lawn. Whatever you want......... but I am going to go there again. We have an issue at DE. I watched Mayowa a lot last night, and while he didn't get a ton of snaps, in the few he did play, he looked OK. Nothing more, nothing less. It's his first action but I was hoping to see a little juice, a glimpse of what is supposed to be uber athleticism and I just didn't see it. Russell? Nice effort and he did get a bit of pressure but he also found himself out of position a few times and it cost the Cowboys. The battle cry seems to be now for the pass rush - wait until Tapper gets back. If that's what we are left with - hoping Tapper can be the answer - then we have some issues.

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The number of teams he has already been on tells me everything I need to know in this case. Screams journey man. Tools that that tease and production that doesnt match the tools. Poor mans Eb Ekuban.
 

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The logic being that the 4th pick would have been better utilized on a defensive player to help our ailing defense or in a trade to get more picks. With this OL you could put a lot of TBs behind it and get a good running game. We are seeing that with Alfred Morris, who looked a bit washed up last year in Washington, and then here he looks like he's found himself again.

So it's not like the logic behind taking Elliott at 4 is somehow faulty. I get why people wanted him.

Dude I like Morris but he is not Zeke. There was a reason why Zeke was #1 on our draft board and there is also a reason why you should draft BPA and not draft for need. What defensive player was going to turn this team around? NONE. Maybe Miles Jack but we passed on him twice. One could argue we got the best defensive player in the draft who could turn this defense around but most likely we will have to wait till next year. Hopefully.
 

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I am worried about the linebackers. Outside of Lee, we may not have a quality starter with the group. Hitchens will need to prove to me that he is more than a valuable reserve who can fill in at three linebacker positions. Durant is a JAG. That is not a bad thing. He has been a solid starter when healthy but it has been a few years since he has been here. Is he still the same player? Even so he is just an average starter. I wonder if there is a veteran we can bring in just for depth. If Lee were to go down, that position would look even more scarier.

I think our secondary is solid. I think Church is nothing but average but Byron Jones at safety should really help that position. I do not see a true ball hawk in the secondary though. A play making saftey next to Byron Jones would be ideal next offseason. Although I think the secondary is one of the better lineups on defense. A good pass rush would really help them out though.
 

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Some fans learn information about how to."what ever", and it becomes dogma.
Such as you just dont draft a RB in the 1st round.
A good RB that is adequate to move chains and thats all you need.
Factoring in special talent [and Zeek is special ] just doesnt register in their formula.


Zeek makes this offense hot like Emmit did.
 

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Some fans learn information about how to."what ever", and it becomes dogma.
Such as you just dont draft a RB in the 1st round.
A good RB that is adequate to move chains and thats all you need.
Factoring in special talent [and Zeek is special ] just doesnt register in their formula.


Zeek makes this offense hot like Emmit did.

The "formula" is a bit more complex than you are trying to make it to be.

If the Cowboys had an elite defense heading into this draft, I suspect a lot of people who didn't want to use the 4th pick on Elliott would have been more open to that possibility. I would have been. But I saw, and see, a defense that still lacks a lot of quality talent and thought that 4th pick would have been better utilized in addressed a problem on this team.

Of course, you are free to disagree.
 

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Still not sure why some fans never understood the Elliott pick. The running back/running game is what makes our team tick. Elliott minus the BS distractions that is.

Let me explain the Elliott thing to you.

Morris looked just fine when he was in there with the first team. And you add a guy like Lamar Miller to that and the run game is still top 3 in the NFL. Is Zeke, better, sure, but still the run game is awesome. But you add a potential pro bowl caliber defender to your defense on top of it and for 10 years, not 5 or 6.


So would you rather have Morris, Lamar Miller, and a 4th pick defensive gem or Zeke Ellioitt and Brandon Carr at his 10 million per year salary?

Now if you had told me that we would find our QB of the future in Dak then I may have paused. Elliott can be the drum of this offense until Dak gets fully up to speed. I like that combination.
 

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The "formula" is a bit more complex than you are trying to make it to be.

If the Cowboys had an elite defense heading into this draft, I suspect a lot of people who didn't want to use the 4th pick on Elliott would have been more open to that possibility. I would have been. But I saw, and see, a defense that still lacks a lot of quality talent and thought that 4th pick would have been better utilized in addressed a problem on this team.

Of course, you are free to disagree.

I get your point Sydia but your calling for need over BPA and the Dallas board had Zeek #1 over all .
I wont rehash what the run does for the defense.

We sure do need more defensive studs no doubt.
 

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What's impressive about the performance by Zeke and Dak is that this was without Dez and Tyrone on the field.

Really like the cutting/speed of Zeke. He makes his decision and already looks more like Dorsett than anyone else I have seen for a long time. He's going to take several to the house from way out with his ability .
 

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- Free is taking a beating but overall he was OK.
Okay is probably the best evaluation of Free at this point. I'll wait to see how well he performs during the regular season but it would not surprise me if Green's pass blocking has regressed noticeably since even last season. His ability to fend off bull rushes more consistently has been troubling me this preseason.
 
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