What week did Flozel Adams get hurt and what was our record after that?

[cwalk]

Just a question?

 

[TheHustler]

IR on 10/19

5W and 5L after that.

 

[Big Country]

Week 6, NYG home game 3rd quarter.. 4 and 2 with Flozell including the Giants game, and 5 and 5 record after the NYG game...

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Flo was big, but again, many teams lost very important personell.

And when he was here we still lost to the Raiders and almost made Julian Petersen's prediction come true in San Fran.

While he was out, we went toe-to-toe, with the Giants, Broncos, Seattle etc etc and had a 7-3 Record after Week 11.

It's all about adjustments and coming up with innovative solutions when your good players go down.

Flo was big, but he cannot be the scapegoat for why we didnt make the playoffs.

- Mike G.

 

[iceberg]

Flo was big, but again, many teams lost very important personell.

And when he was here we still lost to the Raiders and almost made Julian Petersen's prediction come true in San Fran.

While he was out, we went toe-to-toe, with the Giants, Broncos, Seattle etc etc and had a 7-3 Record after Week 11.

It's all about adjustments and coming up with innovative solutions when your good players go down.

Flo was big, but he cannot be the scapegoat for why we didnt make the playoffs.

- Mike G.

but given the book on bledsoe he needs to be the scapegoat of why drew suddenly lost ALL protection from 1 player.

 

[demdcowboys#1]

I cant believe we went from 7-3 to 9-7............what the hell went wrong!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

[dargonking999]

I think that had Flo been out for just a few games, we would have been better offensivly.

Second i dont think it was just Adams injury that hurt us. It was the injuries from LB, to RB, to the OL, and WR that started to take it's toll at the end of the season. Instead of getting better, or like the patriots getting our players back, we kept losing more, and our team play suffered. THose close games started to hurt us, and everything started to fall apart.

I think it all started when Flo, and Crayton got hurt, that started a slide, that turned into a landslide, of injuries that we just werent able to recover from. We just didnt have depth at the places were we got our injuries.

 

[burmafrd]

I have always thought that the injury is no excuse BS is just that. Where would NE be if Brady was out for the season? We all know what happens to Atlanta when Vick is out. Imagine the Colts without Manning. There are other positions on various teams where you have the one player you cannot lose. IF we had had a good backup for the Hotel then we would have been ok- WE DID NOT. We already had one weak tackle; then we had 2. BALL GAME OVER. IF the middle of the line had been performing well we might have scraped by- but it was not. So the whole thing collapsed. And when the O line went, the O went. Outside of Carolina and KC, we did not really have an offense the rest of the season. And with all the injuries in the secondary and the LB corps, our D could not pick up the slack. And there you have it. Injuries ensured we sit at home for the playoffs. That and a lousy kicking game.

 

[iceberg]

culpepper went out and the vikes got a lot better.

and vicks backup is highly sought after in the off-season.

 

[joseephuss]

Flo was big, but again, many teams lost very important personell.

And when he was here we still lost to the Raiders and almost made Julian Petersen's prediction come true in San Fran.

While he was out, we went toe-to-toe, with the Giants, Broncos, Seattle etc etc and had a 7-3 Record after Week 11.

It's all about adjustments and coming up with innovative solutions when your good players go down.

Flo was big, but he cannot be the scapegoat for why we didnt make the playoffs.

- Mike G.

Adams' injury certainly hurt Dallas the next week when they travelled to Seattle. The offense was ineffective in a close game. This team lost in many ways. It wasn't lost because of Adams' injury, but I do think that was the biggest blow to the team this season. His presence for the full season may help Dallas get into the playoffs, but he alone would not make it a Superbowl team. A few holes need to be filled before that happens.

 

[dargonking999]

culpepper went out and the vikes got a lot better.

and vicks backup is highly sought after in the off-season.

They didnt get better, they just started playing crappy teams, and their defense started playing decent. Brad is a decent QB, who played mistake free, and TD free.

 

[Zaxor]

Flo was big, but again, many teams lost very important personell.

And when he was here we still lost to the Raiders and almost made Julian Petersen's prediction come true in San Fran.

While he was out, we went toe-to-toe, with the Giants, Broncos, Seattle etc etc and had a 7-3 Record after Week 11.

It's all about adjustments and coming up with innovative solutions when your good players go down.

Flo was big, but he cannot be the scapegoat for why we didnt make the playoffs.

- Mike G.

Flo is big... just a huge guy...

but he wasn't that great with Bledsoe behind center...

Does anybody have the games that Flo was in...were we rushing the ball better were we pass protecting better.... I really do not have those numbers but it wouldn't surprise me if the differance wasn't that large...

 

[joseephuss]

Flo is big... just a huge guy...

but he wasn't that great with Bledsoe behind center...

Does anybody have the games that Flo was in...were we rushing the ball better were we pass protecting better.... I really do not have those numbers but it wouldn't surprise me if the differance wasn't that large...

Flozell didn't have to be great to be better than Tucker.

Dallas gave up 0 sacks to the Commanders and Eagles when Flo was playing. That wasn't the case later in the season.

The offensive line was inconsistent all year with or without Flozell. Losing him was a big problem, but it wasn't the only problem.

 

[sago1]

Think we ran the ball slightly better while Adams playing then w/o him. Bledsoe also trusted Adams more. With Adams injury we forced keep players (TE/WR) in to help protect Bledsoe which lessen targets he had available. And remaining OL players didn't pick up the ball. On defense the loss of Dat & Singleton at LB which didn't have the depth, vet experience or ability as did the DL hurt defensive performance which meant we needed do more on offense but we couldn't given poor OL play. Also think we must add quality WR.

 

[cwalk]

I have always thought that the injury is no excuse BS is just that. Where would NE be if Brady was out for the season? We all know what happens to Atlanta when Vick is out. Imagine the Colts without Manning. There are other positions on various teams where you have the one player you cannot lose. IF we had had a good backup for the Hotel then we would have been ok- WE DID NOT. We already had one weak tackle; then we had 2. BALL GAME OVER. IF the middle of the line had been performing well we might have scraped by- but it was not. So the whole thing collapsed. And when the O line went, the O went. Outside of Carolina and KC, we did not really have an offense the rest of the season. And with all the injuries in the secondary and the LB corps, our D could not pick up the slack. And there you have it. Injuries ensured we sit at home for the playoffs. That and a lousy kicking game.

Now thats the ** truth!!!!!!!!

 

[Zaxor]

Flozell didn't have to be great to be better than Tucker.

Dallas gave up 0 sacks to the Commanders and Eagles when Flo was playing. That wasn't the case later in the season.

The offensive line was inconsistent all year with or without Flozell. Losing him was a big problem, but it wasn't the only problem.

why do you think that is? and did you think it was gonna be a problem before the season?

 

[big dog cowboy]

I cant believe we went from 7-3 to 9-7............what the hell went wrong!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

When Flo went down, our OT's got exposed. We also started playing playoff teams. BP went ultra conservative with the offense. Henry got hurt. That's enough.

 

[big dog cowboy]

culpepper went out and the vikes got a lot better.

Well, Culpepper was playing like complete crap before his injury. I would go so far as to say that his injury helped turn around their season because he needed pulled.

 

[joseephuss]

why do you think that is? and did you think it was gonna be a problem before the season?

I wasn't sure what to expect from the offensive line going into the season. Maybe that is an indicator of the inconsistency. There were just a lot of unknowns going into training camp and nothing that occurred in camp and the pre-season answered those questions. Who was going to be the right tackle? How was Riviera going to respond to his off season back problems and missing a portion of training camp? Was Al Johnson going to improve in his second season as a starter? Was there anything left in Larry Allen? Was there dependable depth along the O-line? There were even questions about Flozell, but he seemd to be the most dependable lineman that Dallas had going into the season. That is why his injury hurt the team. Instead of questions being answered, his injury just brought on more questions.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Funny thing is we had our best rushing day when the big money man Rivera was out and of course Flo was out as well.

Not trying to be sarcastic here but I am really taking stuff down and saving all the excuses.

Let's recap all the excuses of the Big Bill Era:


2003
Quincy Sucked
Hambrick Sucked
Fluke Year
OL sucked
No pass rush
BP Still cleaning up 10 years worth of mess


2004
Vinny sucked
JJ/BP were passive in FA
Parcells didnt do anything because 2003 was a smoke screen
Jones went down
OL sucked
Zimmer had nobody to work with
BP Still cleaning up 10 years worth of mess


2005
Flo got injured
Henry got injured
Rivera needs time for back to heel
Petitti sucked
Jones recovering from ankle injury
OL sucked
Too many rookies
BP Still cleaning up 10 years worth of mess


I would like to open up a special forum on the board so we can all take bets on what the excuses will be next year....at least we can make some money off of it :

This one seems to popup each year, so I am gonna go with this one:
BP Still cleaning up 10 years worth of mess

As I stated, I am jumping off Bill Parcells' bangwagon next year if we have the same results.

Always next year were going to be good...always wait until next year....always we are 1 year away..... :

- Mike G.