Whats wrong in Big D in December

[Ichill2]

Cowboy fans,

Slow down and think about this whole equation. We have the talent to win but winning starts from the top and trickles down..Yes, Jerry is a great owner but don't forget he is also GM-player personnel. Jerry wants to win with a yes sir coaching staff..Its not Wade's fault for being the type of coach he is, it was Jerry's for bringing in this type of coach (coaching staff). All the Boys need is to know how to stay focused (December/Jan) and how to close/win a game. Jerry has not brought in a coach that can tolerate his behavior. Even the great Parcells called it quits. Romo does not know how to manage the big game. He is trying to find his own way. Is Wade/Garrett the answer? No. We need a Coach that can control every aspect of the Team/Players. We need a Coach that can change the face of the team and not facelifts of the Owner/GM.

 

[Hostile]

Just what we needed, a Jimmy thread. [/sarcasm off]

 

[viman96]

I bet you like Sunday Morning Countdown.

 

[notherbob]

Cowboy fans,

Slow down and think about this whole equation. We have the talent to win but winning starts from the top and trickles down..Yes, Jerry is a great owner but don't forget he is also GM-player personnel. Jerry wants to win with a yes sir coaching staff..Its not Wade's fault for being the type of coach he is, it was Jerry's for bringing in this type of coach (coaching staff). All the Boys need is to know how to stay focused (December/Jan) and how to close/win a game. Jerry has not brought in a coach that can tolerate his behavior. Even the great Parcells called it quits. Romo does not know how to manage the big game. He is trying to find his own way. Is Wade/Garrett the answer? No. We need a Coach that can control every aspect of the Team/Players. We need a Coach that can change the face of the team and not facelifts of the Owner/GM.

Talent wins in September/October, toughness wins in December/January.

On the coaching thingy - it's hard to find a yes-man with enough grit that the team can find any respect for.

 

[28 Joker]

I'll tell you what's wrong.

Turn overs.

2005

Dallas had...drum roll please... 14 turn overs

Their opponents had... 6

Record in December 2-3


2006

Dallas had...drum roll, please... 13 turn overs

Their opponents had... 6

Record in December 2-3


2007

Dallas had 6 turn overs while the opponents had 4.

Record in December 2-2


2008

Dallas had... drum roll, please... 5 turn overs in one game

Their opponent had 2.

Record 0-1


That is 38 turn overs since 2005. Opponents turned it over 14 times.

38-18= 20

The Cowboys have turned the ball over 20 more times than their opponents.

Tony Romo must protect the football, because many of the turn overs from Dec. 2006-2008 are his.

Jason Garrett must set parameters for Tony Romo in order to help him manage the game. One way he can do this is through play calling.

 

[jobberone]

I'll tell you what's wrong.

Turn overs.

2005

Dallas had...drum roll please... 14 turn overs

Their opponents had... 6

Record in December 2-3


2006

Dallas had...drum roll, please... 13 turn overs

Their opponents had... 6

Record in December 2-3


2007

Dallas had 6 turn overs while the opponents had 4.

Record in December 2-2


2008

Dallas had... drum roll, please... 5 turn overs in one game

Their opponent had 2.

Record 0-1


That is 38 turn overs since 2005. Opponents turned it over 14 times.

38-18= 20

The Cowboys have turned the ball over 20 more times than their opponents.

Tony Romo must protect the football, because many of the turn overs from Dec. 2006-2008 are his.

Jason Garrett must set parameters for Tony Romo in order to help him manage the game. One way he can do this is through play calling.

Thank you very much. Please, text this to Jason and Tony.

 

[robjgrif]

Cowboy fans,

Slow down and think about this whole equation. We have the talent to win but winning starts from the top and trickles down..Yes, Jerry is a great owner but don't forget he is also GM-player personnel. Jerry wants to win with a yes sir coaching staff..Its not Wade's fault for being the type of coach he is, it was Jerry's for bringing in this type of coach (coaching staff). All the Boys need is to know how to stay focused (December/Jan) and how to close/win a game. Jerry has not brought in a coach that can tolerate his behavior. Even the great Parcells called it quits. Romo does not know how to manage the big game. He is trying to find his own way. Is Wade/Garrett the answer? No. We need a Coach that can control every aspect of the Team/Players. We need a Coach that can change the face of the team and not facelifts of the Owner/GM.

ROMO!

 

[cmacch]

I'll tell you what's wrong.

Turn overs.

2005

Dallas had...drum roll please... 14 turn overs

Their opponents had... 6

Record in December 2-3


2006

Dallas had...drum roll, please... 13 turn overs

Their opponents had... 6

Record in December 2-3


2007

Dallas had 6 turn overs while the opponents had 4.

Record in December 2-2


2008

Dallas had... drum roll, please... 5 turn overs in one game

Their opponent had 2.

Record 0-1


That is 38 turn overs since 2005. Opponents turned it over 14 times.

38-18= 20

The Cowboys have turned the ball over 20 more times than their opponents.

Tony Romo must protect the football, because many of the turn overs from Dec. 2006-2008 are his.

Jason Garrett must set parameters for Tony Romo in order to help him manage the game. One way he can do this is through play calling.

I feel I must add, I think STUPID PENALTIES are also a major contributor

 

[MONT17]

Cowboy fans,

Slow down and think about this whole equation. We have the talent to win but winning starts from the top and trickles down..Yes, Jerry is a great owner but don't forget he is also GM-player personnel. Jerry wants to win with a yes sir coaching staff..Its not Wade's fault for being the type of coach he is, it was Jerry's for bringing in this type of coach (coaching staff). All the Boys need is to know how to stay focused (December/Jan) and how to close/win a game. Jerry has not brought in a coach that can tolerate his behavior. Even the great Parcells called it quits. Romo does not know how to manage the big game. He is trying to find his own way. Is Wade/Garrett the answer? No. We need a Coach that can control every aspect of the Team/Players. We need a Coach that can change the face of the team and not facelifts of the Owner/GM.

you make some great points... too bad we cant do anything about besides cry!

 

[sbark]

Whats wrong in December??........They got their money in September.......

big paydays...without big playoff performances

 

[Bach]

They aren't clutch players, especially Romo.

 

[alancdc]

I tell ya what is wrong in most Decembers since the 96 season is WE HAVEN'T BEEN GREAT. If you stink you stink in December too. Now, last year, we should have done something, but thnkn about how average we have been since, what, 97? SAme thing with home field advantage...You know why most home teams win in the playoffs? 'Cause they spent an entire year earning that right to play at home by BEING BETTER.

 

[percyhoward]

That is 38 turn overs since 2005. Opponents turned it over 18 times.

38-18= 20

The Cowboys have turned the ball over 20 more times than their opponents.

Great post.

I went back and checked the turnover differential for the non-December games over the same time period.

Dallas has had 71 turnovers since 2005 in non-December games. Opponents turned it over 86 times.

Our pre-December turnover differential is +15.

 

[joseephuss]

If you look at the several years prior to 2005 you will see that those teams were just bad. It is no surprise that those teams turned the ball over a lot and lost games late in the season.

2005
Dallas lost Flozell Adams to injury that year. They were already weak at right tackle and after Flo's injury they became weak at left tackle. Bledsoe was always a turnover machine, so having poor tackles did not help.

Dallas knew they were eliminated from playoff contention before they even stepped on the field to face the Rams in the season finale. They mailed that game in. It counts as a late season loss/collapse, but few of the players cared going into the game.

2006
Dallas lost Gregg Ellis to injury late that year. That contributed to the defense not getting pressure on opposing teams. Less pressure equaled less forced turnovers. It also put pressure on the Cowboys offense, which resulted in them turning the ball over more.

2007
TO got hurt late in the season and Dallas had home field wrapped up by the time they faced the Commanders in the season finale. They mailed that game in that year. I was not surprised they lost and played poorly that game. It is all about attitude and Dallas did not have the right one to win that game. They mentally moved on to having a week off and gearing up for the playoffs.

 

[RoadRunner]

If you look at the several years prior to 2005 you will see that those teams were just bad. It is no surprise that those teams turned the ball over a lot and lost games late in the season.

2005
Dallas lost Flozell Adams to injury that year. They were already weak at right tackle and after Flo's injury they became weak at left tackle. Bledsoe was always a turnover machine, so having poor tackles did not help.

Dallas knew they were eliminated from playoff contention before they even stepped on the field to face the Rams in the season finale. They mailed that game in. It counts as a late season loss/collapse, but few of the players cared going into the game.

2006
Dallas lost Gregg Ellis to injury late that year. That contributed to the defense not getting pressure on opposing teams. Less pressure equaled less forced turnovers. It also put pressure on the Cowboys offense, which resulted in them turning the ball over more.

2007
TO got hurt late in the season and Dallas had home field wrapped up by the time they faced the Commanders in the season finale. They mailed that game in that year. I was not surprised they lost and played poorly that game. It is all about attitude and Dallas did not have the right one to win that game. They mentally moved on to having a week off and gearing up for the playoffs.

Two games mailed in by professionals getting paid. They all should have refused to get paid for those games out of shame.

Oh, and as for mentally moving on for the playoff game against the skins, well, they took that mentality with them and blew 13-3 and homefield with a 1 and done.

 

[Everson24]

What seems to be the problem is we treat December games they way we treat our Semptember games. The stakes are even higher in December as teams are fighting hard for playoff position. There simply will no be as many blowouts against solid teams at this time of year. Teams have too much game film to go on and they know your tendancies.

Just like last Sunday both teams knew each others offense and it became a defensive stuggle. In these types of games turnovers usally make the difference. That is one reason teams that run the ball well in December do well in the playoffs. It's a lot less risky running the ball instead of flinging it around in bad weather conditions.
Everyone who can should watch the 1993 Giants Cowboys game on NFL network Friday night and see How you win an important late season game.

 

[popcorn]

Parcells and Jimmy are quitters. Wade is not. Everyone was on board with this hire back when Jerry was making the decision. Its a very fine line between champoinship coach and an almost coach. Before JERRY agquired all that talent from Minn, Jimmy was the laughing stock of the league. He couldnt even manage the game clock correcetly. if we have enough healthy talented palyers we will make the play-offs. If we do --LOOK OUT.

 

[thisisepic]

I bet you like Sunday Morning Countdown.

:laugh1:

 

[Bach]

Parcells and Jimmy are quitters. Wade is not. Everyone was on board with this hire back when Jerry was making the decision. Its a very fine line between champoinship coach and an almost coach. Before JERRY agquired all that talent from Minn, Jimmy was the laughing stock of the league. He couldnt even manage the game clock correcetly. if we have enough healthy talented palyers we will make the play-offs. If we do --LOOK OUT.

Everyone was on board? You mean when Jerry narrowed it down to Norv and Wade?

Jimmy was a laughingstock? You do remember that the Herschel trade was made early in his very first season here, right? And Jimmy was the one who made the selections with the picks acquired in the Minny deal.

 

[Shinywalrus]

Coincidence and natural variation. Football is not like baseball - it's subject to very small sample size, and even within those samples gets befuddled by exogenous factors like games that don't matter (last December) in the playoff hunt and injuries, etc.

What's most baffling is how everyone brings up the "last decade", as though it had anything to do with this year's Cowboys. The idea that there's something inherent to a franchise, beyond its players and coaching staff, 90% of whom have been here 4 or 5 years or less, that would induce struggles at a particular time of year is just absurd.

But ESPN talking heads love their pseudostats.