When is .500 ball not so bad?

[TwoDeep3]

What won't happen?

If something has not taken place yet, there is no "not happen". (are you tricking me?)

Please explain how it is that I have pretty much indicated 8-8 for the last three years before the season starts and it came to pass? While nothing is guaranteed, one can make am educated assessment of the team and be pretty close.

So while you feel all snugly in the notion that what has not happened cannot be determined, I'd suggest one can make an educated determination and be close to predicting the future returns.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Always. Not so bad, not so good.

 

[5Stars]

Please explain how it is that I have pretty much indicated 8-8 for the last three years before the season starts and it came to pass? While nothing is guaranteed, one can make am educated assessment of the team and be pretty close.

So while you feel all snugly in the notion that what has not happened cannot be determined, I'd suggest one can make an educated determination and be close to predicting the future returns.

You answered your own question, bro...!

You cannot predict nothing. I like the way you think, but nobody can say what will happen or what will not. Fools, maybe...

But, you will be alright...I promise.

 

[percyhoward]

.500 ball's not so bad when it lasts for a season or two, and the team is young and on the way up.

.500 ball three years in a row with a top 10 QB every year takes some doing.

 

[Chuck 54]

I yet to understand how a group of fans can abandoned the mindset that the team should succeed and make the play-offs and go deep into them. The list of other teams and their failures seem to bolster the emotions of some to accept mediocrity.

This franchise was not built on accepting defeat. Landry despised losing.

But it sure seems some rejoice in just watching a game with the star on a helmet and all expectations of success are left at the door.

I feel terrible for you people who seem to think this is all there is. But a part of me thinks you deserve this since you have given up, or never known the utter joy of watching the last seconds tick down on a Super Bowl where Dallas is firmly ahead.

Thank you, Jerry, for teaching an entire generation that Dallas Cowboy football is about being average. What was once a storied and beloved franchise is now just the butt of jokes.

1. I'm not sure you read the original post all the way through since I went out of the way to say this is no endorsement of Jerry or Jason, and I saw no posts ahead of yours that gave your complaint any context. I merely shared something from ESPN that any Cowboys fan should enjoy.

2. Tom Landry hated losing because he did a great deal of it both before and after the 17 year streak. Previously, he was known as coach of a soft team that couldn't win a big game, but in those days, a coach wasn't fired based only on the record.

3. Any Cowboys fan that can't take pleasure in the Commanders failures hasn't been a Cowboys fan long enough.

 

[TwoDeep3]

1. I'm not sure you read the original post all the way through since I went out of the way to say this is no endorsement of Jerry or Jason, and I saw no posts ahead of yours that gave your complaint any context. I merely shared something from ESPN that any Cowboys fan should enjoy.

2. Tom Landry hated losing because he did a great deal of it both before and after the 17 year streak. Previously, he was known as coach of a soft team that couldn't win a big game, but in those days, a coach wasn't fired based only on the record.

3. Any Cowboys fan that can't take pleasure in the Commanders failures hasn't been a Cowboys fan long enough.

I stand by what I said. There is no amount of disaster that can befall the Giants, Eagles, Commanders, 9ers or any other mortal enemy of Dallas that can assuage the acceptance of this franchise being mired in 18 years of also ran.

Sorry if that tweaks your beanie. But accepting mediocrity isn't part of the deal for some all day Cowboy fans.

 

[mrmojo]

1. I'm not sure you read the original post all the way through since I went out of the way to say this is no endorsement of Jerry or Jason, and I saw no posts ahead of yours that gave your complaint any context. I merely shared something from ESPN that any Cowboys fan should enjoy.

2. Tom Landry hated losing because he did a great deal of it both before and after the 17 year streak. Previously, he was known as coach of a soft team that couldn't win a big game, but in those days, a coach wasn't fired based only on the record.

3. Any Cowboys fan that can't take pleasure in the Commanders failures hasn't been a Cowboys fan long enough.

17 years? More like 20 years. He had 6 years of losing before he had a winning season but that was with an expansion team, he got a ten year contract in his 5th year, dont know if anyone considered his teams soft. Then he had only 3 years of losing after his last playoff team in 1985. Lot of winning there.....

 

[jnday]

I wanted to say this, but I also wanted to be nice. The Cowboys have no room to talk.

I have to agree. Dallas has no room to point fingers until they prove they are better. I don't like it, but Dallas fans have no room to talk.

 

[Hoofbite]

Threads that take solace in finding a franchise that is more poorly run than ours...are just plain depressing.

Pretty much.

Just think. Washington hasn't had a QB worth a crap in just about forever and they're not all that far behind

 

[HappyOnions]

500 seasons are never good enough, but at the same time, they're not ever so bad. I'd be much, much more disgruntled if I were a Commanders fan than I am right now as a fan of the Cowboys.

Meh, their last Super Bowl victory is only a few years behind ours...

I don't see any reason to feel better as a Cowboys fan...especially one who has never really experienced a winning team...

 

[Blackspider214]

2 of the most egotistical owners in the league. And who love to get involved with every aspect of the team and we see why we both are where we are. Laughingstocks of the NFL. Difference is Snyder has absolutely no success at all to hang his hat on.

I remember when he first came into the league and signed the guys who were nearing Social Security thinking they were going to be a special team. Bruce Smith, Deion and others. But actually, I think they have won more playoff games since we have in that time period. I believe 2.

And sorry, just because they suck, does not make me feel better about our situation.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I yet to understand how a group of fans can abandoned the mindset that the team should succeed and make the play-offs and go deep into them. The list of other teams and their failures seem to bolster the emotions of some to accept mediocrity.

This franchise was not built on accepting defeat. Landry despised losing.

But it sure seems some rejoice in just watching a game with the star on a helmet and all expectations of success are left at the door.

I feel terrible for you people who seem to think this is all there is. But a part of me thinks you deserve this since you have given up, or never known the utter joy of watching the last seconds tick down on a Super Bowl where Dallas is firmly ahead.

Thank you, Jerry, for teaching an entire generation that Dallas Cowboy football is about being average. What was once a storied and beloved franchise is now just the butt of jokes.

A lot of truth in this.

It's a shame that we are where we are.

The Dallas cowboys should be associated with greatness, as they once were. But they are not.

 

[Beast_from_East]

On the bright side guys, no team has ever been 500 for 4 consecutive seasons...........................so something is going to break. one way or another................we are either going to finally bust through the 8-8 ceiling and become a 10-12 win team or we are going to finally tank and end up at 5-7 wins.

Right now I lean towards 5-7 wins as more probable for next year considering we are way over the cap and we lose 1-2 games a year simply from coaching errors.

 

[HappyOnions]

On the bright side guys, no team has ever been 500 for 4 consecutive seasons...........................so something is going to break. one way or another................we are either going to finally bust through the 8-8 ceiling and become a 10-12 win team or we are going to finally tank and end up at 5-7 wins.

Right now I lean towards 5-7 wins as more probable for next year considering we are way over the cap and we lose 1-2 games a year simply from coaching errors.

Just because it's never happened before doesn't mean that it won't/can't. If any team can go 8-8 for 4 consecutive seasons, it's definitely this one.

 

[Chuck 54]

17 years? More like 20 years. He had 6 years of losing before he had a winning season but that was with an expansion team, he got a ten year contract in his 5th year, dont know if anyone considered his teams soft. Then he had only 3 years of losing after his last playoff team in 1985. Lot of winning there.....

This refers to 17 straight years in the playoffs.

 

[mrmojo]

This refers to 17 straight years in the playoffs.

We never had 17 straight years in the playoffs. 8 year and 9 year streaks were the most in Landrys day, 1974 was the only hiccup.

 

[silver]

"8-8 is good in Dallas, mediocre is good according to Jerry Jones" Terry Bradshaw during the Fox pre-game, December 29, 2013

 

[silver]

Bradshaw said he expects the Cowboys to rise up and win over Philadelphia: “I believe Jerry Jones is like the Ziegfeld Follies. He can sell and he can promote anything, and I’m promoting it this week. I do believe the old theory that any team any given Sunday – forget all the other things, all of the running games and everything – I believe that Dallas at home can rise up. And if they don’t, they go back to 8-8. What did they do last year? 8-8. What did they do the year before that? 8-8. And average is good, I guess.”

http://fangsbites.com/2013/12/fox-nfl-sunday-quotage-for-week-17-of-the-nfl-season/

 

[foofighters]

....when you're the Commanders....when Norv Turner is your only winning coach since 1999....when you're 104-136 through 7 different regimes.

Snyder Carousel
Coaching records under Dan Snyder since he purchased the team in 1999.

COACHHIREDW-L
Norv Turner199917-12
Terry Robiskie*20001-2
M. Schottenheimer20018-8
Steve Spurrier200212-20
Joe Gibbs200430-34
Jim Zorn200812-20
Mike Shanahan201024-40
Overall104-136
*Interim


And no...for those who always have a negative one-track-mind agenda, I'm not actually cheering Jerry Jones or Jason Garrett.

I am sorry, but I expect a lot more from my team than saying, "hey, at least we're better than the Commanders. The NFCE was a doormat this year and we are little better than the giants right now...that's not saying much at all.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Ok...you are scaring the hell out of me! (don't tell anyone about the novena)! What is wrong with you?! Please...don't scare the kids.

This is between Jerra and Snyder. Leave the novena out of this! Please....!

LOL . . . but seriously . . . prayer helps. Many a time the Cowboys half scored with me praying for them.