When is Sean Lee expected back?

I agree with that and had 0 confidence he would play all 16 and now wonder if he'll play half the games. These hammies have the tendency to hang around and considering the position that he plays, I don't think it will be 100% this season.

The key is what happens to the run D when he's out? Has drafting LVE and signing Thomas fixed that problem and while I do see better signs for Jaylon, he still does not look 100% to me. This talk of him being faster than when at ND looks like nothing more than talk to me.

I think Jaylon could be a starter on the team for many years. He might not ever get back to what he was in college but he looks like someone who can play even with a 3rd of his abilities, which is still good for Smiths talents. I think LVE is going to be the Travis Fredrick of our defense. The guy everyone groaned about, but after a few seasons the guy everyone loves. His tackling ability is absolutely incredible. If he gets his hands on you, you're going down. For the first time in ALONG time I'm enjoying watching our defense play.
 
So here is a question I have about Jaylon.
Many come in here and say, well he is not playing like he did in college.
If he can play like he did in college.
College comparison this, college comparison that.

So there are many healthy players that come out of college and really don’t play like the do in the nfl as they did in college. But yet they play pretty well, so people think they are the same player. When in fact they may not be.
And how many that make these statements truly watched him in college, other than highlight films.
I think some fans expectation are that he was a super hero, in which many college players seem that way.
But when the get to the nfl they drop a notch or 2. It is a common thing to do so.

So are the fans just picking up on this to whine...well, if he gets back to college level....

But here we are, he is still getting his legs back under him and he looks pretty good. But yet there are those that will see differently as they always look at being negative.

So how many actually watched most of his games in college? To be able to compare this, and remember the NFL is much faster and has much better players.
 
So here is a question I have about Jaylon.
Many come in here and say, well he is not playing like he did in college.
If he can play like he did in college.
College comparison this, college comparison that.

So there are many healthy players that come out of college and really don’t play like the do in the nfl as they did in college. But yet they play pretty well, so people think they are the same player. When in fact they may not be.
And how many that make these statements truly watched him in college, other than highlight films.
I think some fans expectation are that he was a super hero, in which many college players seem that way.
But when the get to the nfl they drop a notch or 2. It is a common thing to do so.

So are the fans just picking up on this to whine...well, if he gets back to college level....

But here we are, he is still getting his legs back under him and he looks pretty good. But yet there are those that will see differently as they always look at being negative.

So how many actually watched most of his games in college? To be able to compare this, and remember the NFL is much faster and has much better players.
While that is true about college comparisons, he was very special at ND and I did watch most of his games and could only wish he'd be a Cowboy but knew unless they went up heavy, that would not happen. He was no worse than the #6 and #1 on some mocks.

What made him so special was his ability to be this every play LB, the run, blitzing the passer, covering backs and TE's and they even had him covering WR's down the field, but that is college and not likely to happen in the pros.

jazzy, when I talk about his college form, I am not making that a comparison from college to the NFL, it is merely a comparison of Jaylon Smith at ND and after that horrible injury. He is not the same, does not have that unique quickness in either direction and lateral movement that made him so effective at ND. He just seemed to move faster than everyone on the field.

He may never come all the way back but that doesn't mean he can't be a good NFL LB because he's smart, has a good sense for the ball and is a good tackler when he can get lined up on the ball carrier. I am just hoping he can get back to being what I considered one of the really special players that I've seen play.

My comments are not negative about him, he was the highlight of my draft. I am just down a little lamenting what could be with him. If he could come back, he could be the best LB in Cowboy's history. He was that good.
 
While that is true about college comparisons, he was very special at ND and I did watch most of his games and could only wish he'd be a Cowboy but knew unless they went up heavy, that would not happen. He was no worse than the #6 and #1 on some mocks.

What made him so special was his ability to be this every play LB, the run, blitzing the passer, covering backs and TE's and they even had him covering WR's down the field, but that is college and not likely to happen in the pros.

jazzy, when I talk about his college form, I am not making that a comparison from college to the NFL, it is merely a comparison of Jaylon Smith at ND and after that horrible injury. He is not the same, does not have that unique quickness in either direction and lateral movement that made him so effective at ND. He just seemed to move faster than everyone on the field.

He may never come all the way back but that doesn't mean he can't be a good NFL LB because he's smart, has a good sense for the ball and is a good tackler when he can get lined up on the ball carrier. I am just hoping he can get back to being what I considered one of the really special players that I've seen play.

My comments are not negative about him, he was the highlight of my draft. I am just down a little lamenting what could be with him. If he could come back, he could be the best LB in Cowboy's history. He was that good.

Good post and thanks for that.
I was not calling you or anyone out on their opinions. I really meant I just noticed how so many make that comment of his college play. And wondered how many truly seen him pay a lot of games to make an accurate comparison.

You know how people hear or read something then jump on the wagon. And it is usually more negative than positive for that stuff. As they just rinse and repeat for a year or more. :laugh:
 
So here is a question I have about Jaylon.
obv I'm a fan but the thing with Jaylon, he lacks consistency.
lets say he's a decent linebacker for arguments sake
there will be times when he flashes the elite athleticism and of course people love that but then he will go back to being 'decent' and then have a bad play
I'm confident he will keep getting better and better with less negative and eventually be at a high level
but right now he's still up & down throughout the game
if you're a fan you can see the positive and if you don't like him, well you can still see the bad at times too
 

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