When Will Mo Officially Be A Bust?

[Corso]

Another solid football comment by you. It's difficult to keep my positing up to the level of insight you have for this sport.

Or...

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[CCBoy]

Not at all, I attach an emotional value as well, which to yourself, unless it is streamlined to an emotion of negative attachment, is worthless.. and hence, to yourself, unintelligible. And stereotypes aren't anything more than priviledged seeking favor.

Naw, I had a high SAT in both Math and English that entitled me to get a Congressional Appointment from Kika de la Garza, the then Senior Senator and Chairman of the Armed Forces Committee...how about you?

And that was the journey you took this upon...

 

[TwoDeep3]

We really don't know what is going on right now. So, we cannot say he is on the wrong track yet.

I find this to be a very clever way to mask your neophyteness....if there is such a word. Let's ask CCboy!

 

[5Stars]

I find this to be a very clever way to mask your neophyteness....if there is such a word. Let's ask CCboy!

What? That sounds like a word that Jerry would use!

 

[CCBoy]

I find this to be a very clever way to mask your neophyteness....if there is such a word. Let's ask CCboy!

I don't have a problem with dictionaries...they are merely an accumulation of practiced meanings. If the word works for you...hey, that's ownership.

 

[Brooksey]

So apologists like you spend time and energy saying the exact opposite. Like you know he just needs more time.

Do not try to act like you are doing anything other than defending him because if you look at exactly what he has done it is obvious how much he has cost this organization has since the second he was drafted. He was already in a hole to begin with and has only gotten worse each season.

But heck, it just is not over. And when he is gone, your tune will change.

I will disagree, he had a good rookie season and was hurt last year. There is no reason to believe he hasn't matured and can't player better. In fact he was playing great in camp before the ding on the shoulder.

If he stays healthy he will be the starter for a long time.

 

[Alexander]

I will disagree, he had a good rookie season and was hurt last year. There is no reason to believe he hasn't matured and can't player better. In fact he was playing great in camp before the ding on the shoulder.

If he stays healthy he will be the starter for a long time.

I do not think it is all health though. That is the difference. He is not a Sean Lee that keeps getting hurt. He has never played at a level anywhere close to that.

His issues are as much about the mind as the body.

 

[Idgit]

So, this is your definition. Good to know.

Yeah, well that was the question from your OP, right?

I toyed with mentioning that the question was loaded, as it didn't seem to allow for the option of him developing in his third year here into a long-term starter.

To answer your other questions in the thread, I wouldn't consider any player a bust for missing a bunch of preseason games, though I do think that makes it a lot harder for a player to develop. And there's nothing I've seen from Mo yet to indicate he's remotely close to being the biggest bust for a pick or FA acquisition from any team in Dallas. We've had many first round draft picks with less ability who've given us less in terms of playing time, and nobody's beating Roy Williams in the FA acquisition category.

 

[Brooksey]

I do not think it is all health though. That is the difference. He is not a Sean Lee that keeps getting hurt. He has never played at a level anywhere close to that.

His issues are as much about the mind as the body.

That's not what I see. I see Mo with an attitude at camp against T. Williams. He's not a big mouth Richard Sherman type but I don't think you need that to be good.

He's a very talented man corner that was placed into zone coverage and was hurt last year.

I'm rooting for the guy.

 

[Alexander]

That's not what I see. I see Mo with an attitude at camp against T. Williams.

False bravado. And let's be honest, he was not jawing at Bryant. He was picking on someone his own size.

Sorry, I do not appreciate that from my top 10 CB, the best since Deion.

 

[Craig]

Later

 

[zrinkill]

Well, he had no hope of ever being worth the trade up and the pick used on him.

That being said, I thought he'd at least be a solid CB running around impacting nothing. I didn't expect this level of bust.

I thought you predicted him with multiple pro bowls.

 

[AsthmaField]

Amazingly Atlanta has been able to fire GMs and executives to hold them accountable and possibly have hope to improve. Lucky them.

Of course they didn't, despite being able to hire "real" GM's. However, they were smart enough to trade away Brett Favre and to watch the fake GM Jerry jump them in the first round to get Emmitt Smith.

That's OK though, Steve Broussard was almost as good as Emmitt.

 

[Brooksey]

False bravado. And let's be honest, he was not jawing at Bryant. He was picking on someone his own size.

Sorry, I do not appreciate that from my top 10 CB, the best since Deion.

False Bravado would mean he is saying something he is incapable of doing...yet he was doing it and T Williams didn't like it. So the False Bravdo thing doesn't make any sense.

He has work to do and he's doing the work to get better. There is nothing to suggest he won't improve if he stays healthy.

 

[Alexander]

Of course they didn't, despite being able to hire "real" GM's. However, they were smart enough to trade away Brett Favre and to watch the fake GM Jerry jump them in the first round to get Emmitt Smith.

That's OK though, Steve Broussard was almost as good as Emmitt.

Thanks for addressing nothing I said. All of the dumb moves cost those GMs and executives their jobs. Meanwhile, even small fry personnel people like Ciskowski have survived in the meantime.

The point is simple, those franchises with accountable employees have hope. We have entrenched members of the family portrait who really have to screw up to go away. And even when they are supposedly run off, they come slinking back, like Lacewell.

So, yes, I would prefer when someone fails, they are accountable and they go away so you have a slight chance of improvement.

 

[Alexander]

False Bravado would mean he is saying something he is incapable of doing...yet he was doing it and T Williams didn't like it. So the False Bravdo thing doesn't make any sense.

He has work to do and he's doing the work to get better. There is nothing to suggest he won't improve if he stays healthy.

False bravado is doing something you have never done before (play aggressively) and then loudly announcing success.

If you want to choose a better descriptive for what he has been doing in camp, go right ahead. But it is hard to sell it as genuine.

It is almost like Wade Phillips walking on the practice field and making players run gassers. You cannot just suddenly change what you normally do without coming off as fake.

 

[AsthmaField]

So, yes, I would prefer when someone fails, they are accountable and they go away so you have a slight chance of improvement.

Well then you should absolutely love Atlanta in the '90's. They did it your way. Dallas, on the other hand, did not.

 

[Alexander]

Well then you should absolutely love Atlanta in the '90's. They did it your way. Dallas, on the other hand, did not.

And they went to a Super Bowl and an NFC Championship since we last did. I think I would take that.

Next time try a more futile franchise. It might make your argument a little better

 

[Idgit]

I will disagree, he had a good rookie season and was hurt last year. There is no reason to believe he hasn't matured and can't player better. In fact he was playing great in camp before the ding on the shoulder.

If he stays healthy he will be the starter for a long time.

There's a rush to judgement on sports boards regarding players and draft picks that completely fails to take into account the fact that players benefit from NFL coaching and experience to develop over time. It's irrational. Similarly, players can get worse when they get paid or when expectations rise over time. To pretend a player is a static quantity from the moment he's drafted, or in his first or second seasons, for that matter, doesn't make any sense.

Obviously, there are limits to how much a guy can/might develop, but then there are guys like Thomas Jones or Alex Smith who were later bloomers. You know there were fans in SF who were sure Alex was an outright bust. He's turned out to have an alright career, and will get paid again here before too long.

This is the same reason why when someone says 'wait and see,' they don't have to apologize later if the player doesn't pan out. We all know players don't pan out sometimes. The goal is to not spend time on guys who can't develop to a level that has them competing successfully for playing time on your team relative to other available players. If Mo, for example, never develops, it doesn't mean the people who wanted to wait and see where ever wrong. Nor does it mean that people who were certain he'd never develop back when they had no data to support that belief did anything other than blindly guess right. I can't speak for everybody, but I'm just not all that impressed with blind guesses working out.

 

[ZappaFrank]

They said he was the best cornerback since Deion. What they diddnt tell us is that they were talking about the 60 year old version that played for the Ravens.

Upon further review,

That version of Deion still had 5 INT's and a TD in his last 2 seasons. OUCH Momo.