When Will Mo Officially Be A Bust?

The MRI is more inclusive. I expect more from our low wonderlick draft choice of three seasons ago. "It takes a while for some"

Ultra sound is a tool as well, whole body scan? Now, prove one's case and leave the bullcrapping aside.

As to individual developments, it doesn't occur in I.Q....but on the level of function and actionable habits. This is married with integration of team actions. That takes practice, study away from action, and slow identification of changing visual pictures and rates of travel. That takes person processing ability, not a laboratory scale of general intelligence. Since wonderlick is such a prognostic tool, how much of it is required for an offensive lineman to be aggressive, mobile, and hostile?
 
I wonder what he would have to do this season for people to stop calling him a bust.
 
I guess some people weren't paying attention to the draft that year but Mo was by far the best DB prospect, considered a blue chip talent, a ballhawk, better than Patrick Peterson in coverage, and a virtual top 5 lock. The draft did drafty things and we had a chance to get him so we did. You can argue whether he justified the cost which is definitely debatable, but arguing whether he was regarded highly or not is easily findable with a quick google search.

Claiborne has been inconsistent at best, he doesn't excel at the cover 2 scheme that Marinelli likes to run.

Crawford was injured all last year, he was drafted to be a defensive end in Rob Ryan's 3-4 not a 'rushman' in this defense.

Wilber was supposed to be a back-up OLB in Rob's 3-4 not a W/SLB in the 4-3. He did flash last year, but was also inconsistent. Which is understandable, but is he the future? I don't think so.
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I'll bite. You said show what they've done, not what they will do, which is a perfectly fine point of view, and then you got all sideways. Mo needs to get on the field sure, but please, Mo has the talent to excel in any scheme. Staying on the field is another story. If he actually plays all 16 regular season games I think he'll have a very good year. If not, well I don't want to think about that.

Crawford came into the league as much more of a 4-3 end than a 3-4 DE, in fact I was a little surprised by the pick because he only weighed in at 275 at the combine.which was pretty undersized for a 3-4 DE. He came in though and held his own against the big boys his rookie year, getting banged up at that 3-4 end spot while coming into the league undersized and with a couple years of football experience. Say what you want but Crawford has power, and he's plenty capable of disrupting from the SDE spot or inside in passing packages.

As far as Wilber, it's not uncommon for players to switch positions, especially a guy at his size/weight. He's not a Hall of Famer but neither was KJ Wright for the Seahawks and he did just fine. His position isn't terribly important so I think he could definitely be a starter there.

Just stirring the pot a little.
 
Seek a job with either Disneyland or Disney World...pick your coast. Cherry picking the top of league talent serves no function beyond peeing into the wind, then. Much less ignoring talent on one's on group.

When it falls into this neighborhood, agenda is the motive and not a true sense of development. Coach a team with four levels of players...or join the Army where one leads men. They aren't all developed into great teams all at once.

As to injured players...you either count them...or just drop them all. You can't build on an either or basis...now, which is it then?

I have no idea what you are talking about, but I think I like Disney world.

That's where they have Harry Potter right? I've always wanted to drink a 'Butterbeer'.
 
I have no idea what you are talking about, but I think I like Disney world.

That's where they have Harry Potter right? I've always wanted to drink a 'Butterbeer'.

Oh, you understand...but your liking of Harry Potter is cool. Myself, I liked the tea cup ride at It's a small world after all. Among others...
 
I guess some people weren't paying attention to the draft that year but Mo was by far the best DB prospect, considered a blue chip talent, a ballhawk, better than Patrick Peterson in coverage, and a virtual top 5 lock. The draft did drafty things and we had a chance to get him so we did. You can argue whether he justified the cost which is definitely debatable, but arguing whether he was regarded highly or not is easily findable with a quick google search.



I'll bite. You said show what they've done, not what they will do, which is a perfectly fine point of view, and then you got all sideways. Mo needs to get on the field sure, but please, Mo has the talent to excel in any scheme. Staying on the field is another story. If he actually plays all 16 regular season games I think he'll have a very good year. If not, well I don't want to think about that.

Crawford came into the league as much more of a 4-3 end than a 3-4 DE, in fact I was a little surprised by the pick because he only weighed in at 275 at the combine.which was pretty undersized for a 3-4 DE. He came in though and held his own against the big boys his rookie year, getting banged up at that 3-4 end spot while coming into the league undersized and with a couple years of football experience. Say what you want but Crawford has power, and he's plenty capable of disrupting from the SDE spot or inside in passing packages.

As far as Wilber, it's not uncommon for players to switch positions, especially a guy at his size/weight. He's not a Hall of Famer but neither was KJ Wright for the Seahawks and he did just fine. His position isn't terribly important so I think he could definitely be a starter there.

Just stirring the pot a little.

I am not saying these players are going to fail. I really hope they don't what I'm saying is that there a lot of question marks about these players, not only because of injury, but because of inconsistency and for the reasons that they were drafted.

Again, I'll repeat I have a ton of questions about these players, I'm hopeful, but I have to be honest I don't know.

I think it is more an indictment of the front office and how badly they have mangled this defense.
 
Ultra sound is a tool as well, whole body scan? Now, prove one's case and leave the bullcrapping aside.

As to individual developments, it doesn't occur in I.Q....but on the level of function and actionable habits. This is married with integration of team actions. That takes practice, study away from action, and slow identification of changing visual pictures and rates of travel. That takes person processing ability, not a laboratory scale of general intelligence. Since wonderlick is such a prognostic tool, how much of it is required for an offensive lineman to be aggressive, mobile, and hostile?

sure, ultrasound is used during many scopes n the body. Not sure what u r trying to say keep it simple just as the NFL does use the wonderlick because it does transform to many field situations. Again I want to mention I hold out high hopes for MC but there has to be a certain degree of skepticism ring into his 3rd year.
 
Oh, you understand...but your liking of Harry Potter is cool. Myself, I liked the tea cup ride at It's a small world after all. Among others...

the MRI supersedes both the X-ray and the ultra because u get many degree and looks at the same area. But no picture can say positively (100%) thats why you go into the area after MRI with a definite plan but the surgeon is always ready to discovery it is a slightly different problem in real as he has eyes on the specific area.
 
sure, ultrasound is used during many scopes n the body. Not sure what u r trying to say keep it simple just as the NFL does use the wonderlick because it does transform to many field situations. Again I want to mention I hold out high hopes for MC but there has to be a certain degree of skepticism ring into his 3rd year.

Not much is needed towards a wonderlick, as all the players being drafted were admitted into a functional and collegiate school from the start.

You brought up a comparative value in instrument focused upon in a description previously...I again pointed out a disparity between that as well.

As to a projection now, on Morris Claiborne, just insure that you hold onto your hat this season, because Claiborne is going to be raising some winds around his activities...
 
the MRI supersedes both the X-ray and the ultra because u get many degree and looks at the same area. But no picture can say positively (100%) thats why you go into the area after MRI with a definite plan but the surgeon is always ready to discovery it is a slightly different problem in real as he has eyes on the specific area.

That is inquisitive...now start some application upon subject and we then have direction...building.
 
Not much is needed towards a wonderlick, as all the players being drafted were admitted into a functional and collegiate school from the start.

You brought up a comparative value in instrument focused upon in a description previously...I again pointed out a disparity between that as well.

As to a projection now, on Morris Claiborne, just insure that you hold onto your hat this season, because Claiborne is going to be raising some winds around his activities...

raising some winds? lol
 
It's a fair question, but it's also a tough one. I don't think Claiborne would ever get cut. He isn't a star, but he isn't a liability either.

Consider a player like Russell Maryland. Dude wasn't just a first round draft pick, he was a number one overall pick. He went to all of one Pro bowl and was never a dominant force. Was he a bust?

Russell Maryland was a bust. Which we would have just traded that pick.
 
I guess some people weren't paying attention to the draft that year but Mo was by far the best DB prospect, considered a blue chip talent, a ballhawk, better than Patrick Peterson in coverage, and a virtual top 5 lock. The draft did drafty things and we had a chance to get him so we did. You can argue whether he justified the cost which is definitely debatable, but arguing whether he was regarded highly or not is easily findable with a quick google search.



I'll bite. You said show what they've done, not what they will do, which is a perfectly fine point of view, and then you got all sideways. Mo needs to get on the field sure, but please, Mo has the talent to excel in any scheme. Staying on the field is another story. If he actually plays all 16 regular season games I think he'll have a very good year. If not, well I don't want to think about that.

Crawford came into the league as much more of a 4-3 end than a 3-4 DE, in fact I was a little surprised by the pick because he only weighed in at 275 at the combine.which was pretty undersized for a 3-4 DE. He came in though and held his own against the big boys his rookie year, getting banged up at that 3-4 end spot while coming into the league undersized and with a couple years of football experience. Say what you want but Crawford has power, and he's plenty capable of disrupting from the SDE spot or inside in passing packages.

As far as Wilber, it's not uncommon for players to switch positions, especially a guy at his size/weight. He's not a Hall of Famer but neither was KJ Wright for the Seahawks and he did just fine. His position isn't terribly important so I think he could definitely be a starter there.

Just stirring the pot a little.

I did some research on him when we selected him. I don't think he was better than Patrick Peterson and especially he wasn't as gifted. He was a ballhawk yes, but he was guarding receivers with inferior talent. The other teams didn't have a choice but to throw to him because LSU had such a great back field. With his combine stats I would not have traded up for him.
 
Not much is needed towards a wonderlick, as all the players being drafted were admitted into a functional and collegiate school from the start.

You brought up a comparative value in instrument focused upon in a description previously...I again pointed out a disparity between that as well.

As to a projection now, on Morris Claiborne, just insure that you hold onto your hat this season, because Claiborne is going to be raising some winds around his activities...

raising some winds? lol
raising some winds? lol

Mo Claiborne will be playing the saxophone soon but so far all we hear is violins. I hope he will be raising some winds. I love a good orchestra!
 
Oh, you understand...but your liking of Harry Potter is cool. Myself, I liked the tea cup ride at It's a small world after all. Among others...

That's where I know u from. Carnie ride guy.:D
 
I did some research on him when we selected him. I don't think he was better than Patrick Peterson and especially he wasn't as gifted. He was a ballhawk yes, but he was guarding receivers with inferior talent. The other teams didn't have a choice but to throw to him because LSU had such a great back field. With his combine stats I would not have traded up for him.

Maybe he wasn't as gifted, but he had a better college career at corner, made more plays, and was more highly regarded coming out of college at actually being a shutdown corner.

And haha, what? Guarding receivers with inferior talent? Throwing at him? Now you're just hatin' because that's not true. Claiborne was the SEC Defensive Player of the Year his senior year, and also won a thing called the Jim Thorpe award. I'm pretty sure I'd avoid that guy.
 
That's where I know u from. Carnie ride guy.:D

Disney World isn't a carnival...sorry. One might have well enjoyed the Hall of Legends and panoramic screen that a movie was shown upon.

On a Civil War setting, one just couldn't keep up with all the action occurring on the screen at one time.

But humor is socially redeemable alright...myself, I still listen up to the liquor store guy.
 

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