When's the last time we benched a player?

[RainMan]

Watching the Steelers game tonight and how they handled the whole Rashard Mendenhall thing got me thinking. When's the last time we benched a player for his play, attitude or otherwise?

I'm sure there will be a "Oh, yeah...duh!" player that I'm simply forgetting. But seeing how we handled the Jenkins/Scandrick situation (kinda tap-dancing the whole issue), and even going back to the Pacman stuff when he was reinserted into the lineup after returning to suspension, it seems like we're so player-friendly that we really wouldn't bench anyone.

Yeah, yeah. No profound observation there, but I'm still curious.

 

[Kangaroo]

Watching the Steelers game tonight and how they handled the whole Rashard Mendenhall thing got me thinking. When's the last time we benched a player for his play, attitude or otherwise?

I'm sure there will be a "Oh, yeah...duh!" player that I'm simply forgetting. But seeing how we handled the Jenkins/Scandrick situation (kinda tap-dancing the whole issue), and even going back to the Pacman stuff when he was reinserted into the lineup after returning to suspension, it seems like we're so player-friendly that we really wouldn't bench anyone.

Yeah, yeah. No profound observation there, but I'm still curious.

Part of it is Wade just look at Parcell he and Jimmy always churned the bottom of the roster. Since Wade's taken over how much churn has happened once the season started. That answers your question

 

[fannypack]

Won't happen with powder puff at the helm. Even if he did try such a thing, there's a good chance Jerry jumps out of his luxury box to put Wade in his place and let the coaching staff know who's the boss around here.

 

[montgod]

I thought about this as well when I heard that story. The players just don't seem to be held accountable in this system. If you screw up, then don't worry, we will study more and get em next time. This seems to be the mindset. And from the interview that Brooking gave, it is evident that practice isn't being taken seriously enough which is translated to the performance we have witnessed on Sunday.

Unfortunately, I don't see anything changing until next year when the Boys will try their hand at another coach.

 

[RainMan]

I thought about this as well when I heard that story. The players just don't seem to be held accountable in this system. If you screw up, then don't worry, we will study more and get em next time. This seems to be the mindset. And from the interview that Brooking gave, it is evident that practice isn't being taken seriously enough which is translated to the performance we have witnessed on Sunday.

Unfortunately, I don't see anything changing until next year when the Boys will try their hand at another coach.

Exactly. And to me, even the way we approached the offseason reeked of this pat-on-the-back formula we employ.

Owens and Ellis were released because they were, what, progress stoppers? That was Jerry's pet term, right? It's laughable that Ellis would be released because he's stopping Spencer's progress or that Owens would be released because of Austin and Hurd.

But, hey, we got what we wanted. All three guys played a pivotal role in today's game.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Watching the Steelers game tonight and how they handled the whole Rashard Mendenhall thing got me thinking. When's the last time we benched a player for his play, attitude or otherwise?

I'm sure there will be a "Oh, yeah...duh!" player that I'm simply forgetting. But seeing how we handled the Jenkins/Scandrick situation (kinda tap-dancing the whole issue), and even going back to the Pacman stuff when he was reinserted into the lineup after returning to suspension, it seems like we're so player-friendly that we really wouldn't bench anyone.

Yeah, yeah. No profound observation there, but I'm still curious.

when they benched Bledsoe for Romo?

 

[utrunner07]

dear cowboys zone:

see mike jenkins last year.

 

[johnny utah]

Won't happen with powder puff at the helm. Even if he did try such a thing, there's a good chance Jerry jumps out of his luxury box to put Wade in his place and let the coaching staff know who's the boss around here.

I completly agree.

 

[RainMan]

when they benched Bledsoe for Romo?

Yeah I was struggling to think of many changes since then. The poster above mentioned Jenkins, which might qualify as the duh player I was forgetting if he was indeed benched. I honestly can't even recall with the rotation we had going on at CB last year.

 

[21Savage]

When was the last time someone eve took a starter's job. I honestly think this is one of the issues with this team. I have two spots on the Defense (Spear's and Hamlin's) that can be taken by backups. And Crayton's spot can definitely be taken by Austin.

 

[theebs]

First off, who has the authority to bench anyone on this staff? And I am not trying to go down that jerry road, but its the truth. No one here does. they simply are not in that position.

the last two starting players to lose their jobs in this organization were Drew Bledsoe and Ebeneezer ekuban. Now you can get into a technical argument that ellis and glover lost there jobs, but that was a little different.

The two guys to flat out lose their jobs were ekuban and bledsoe.

Now back to who has the authority, in 2006 Parcells had to play romo for complete games in the preseason to prove to jerry that romo could do this, Jerry was against it and I dont think Bill wanted to deal with him, jerry had it in his mind that bledsoe was the guy and didnt even take romo seriously.

But Parcells had the pull and the respect of the locker room to do this.

No one on this staff has that. I dont think there is much real respect for any of the coaches here, I think we have some good coaches but I think the locker room knows the score.

Last week after the game wade gave a big speech about giving the game ball to the guy that built the building and he was all fired up and their was this golf clap in the room. Its kind of sorry.

now onto the bigger issue here, who are you benching?

 

[Switz]

can we bench the coaching staff??

 

[theebs]

When was the last time someone eve took a starter's job. I honestly think this is one of the issues with this team. I have two spots on the Defense (Spear's and Hamlin's) that can be taken by backups. And Crayton's spot can definitely be taken by Austin.

I actually think spears has played really well. He has been aggressive and forced alot of the backs to the inside, which is his exact job.

 

[utrunner07]

mike jenkins

 

[WoodysGirl]

Yeah I was struggling to think of many changes since then. The poster above mentioned Jenkins, which might qualify as the duh player I was forgetting if he was indeed benched. I honestly can't even recall with the rotation we had going on at CB last year.

I look at it like this, Tomlin can bench guys like Sweed and Mendenhall because their backups. They lose depth, but they didn't lose a starter. So while it was significant thing, I don't think it was so detrimental to the Steerler's performance. Had he benched Holmes or Parker (pre-turf toe), then that would be more significant.

I think it's a matter of questioning the level of talent and depth on this team. When people scream that a player should be benched, I'd say look at the depth behind them to see if it's feasible and if they're willing to deal with any repercussions.

 

[RainMan]

First off, who has the authority to bench anyone on this staff? And I am not trying to go down that jerry road, but its the truth. No one here does. they simply are not in that position.

the last two starting players to lose their jobs in this organization were Drew Bledsoe and Ebeneezer ekuban. Now you can get into a technical argument that ellis and glover lost there jobs, but that was a little different.

The two guys to flat out lose their jobs were ekuban and bledsoe.

Now back to who has the authority, in 2006 Parcells had to play romo for complete games in the preseason to prove to jerry that romo could do this, Jerry was against it and I dont think Bill wanted to deal with him, jerry had it in his mind that bledsoe was the guy and didnt even take romo seriously.

But Parcells had the pull and the respect of the locker room to do this.

No one on this staff has that. I dont think there is much real respect for any of the coaches here, I think we have some good coaches but I think the locker room knows the score.

Last week after the game wade gave a big speech about giving the game ball to the guy that built the building and he was all fired up and their was this golf clap in the room. Its kind of sorry.

now onto the bigger issue here, who are you benching?

All good points, and your line of thinking is kinda why I started the thread to begin with. I think Parcells pushed buttons a little too hard, but it's good to have people uncomfortable with their job security. As said many times here, what's the downside for playing poorly? We rely solely on having self-motivated players, which like in any workforce, is a DANGEROUS gamble.

As for who to bench, that's a good question. Spencer's play is lackluster, but as pointed out in another post above, it's not like we have backups knocking on starters' doors.

I guess I just wish we had a coach with the cajones/authority to pull someone from the game when their play is substandard.

 

[theebs]

All good points, and your line of thinking is kinda why I started the thread to begin with. I think Parcells pushed buttons a little too hard, but it's good to have people uncomfortable with their job security. As said many times here, what's the downside for playing poorly? We rely solely on having self-motivated players, which like in any workforce, is a DANGEROUS gamble.

As for who to bench, that's a good question. Spencer's play is lackluster, but as pointed out in another post above, it's not like we have backups knocking on starters' doors.

I guess I just wish we had a coach with the cajones/authority to pull someone from the game when their play is substandard.

well, I remember ekuban playing poorly and making a bunch of mistakes against the dolphins on thanksgiving, then the next game erik ogbogu was starting and ekuban was inactive.

Ekuban was a first round pick. You have to have control to do that.

No one here has that control. And ultimately all these coaches came here knowing the score and the players know the score also. Its not a secret.

BUt I still dont see anyone to bench or what purpose with wade phillips as coach it would serve. It would probably just lead to a backlash amongst the players and the media would eat wade alive. He doesnt seem to handle those things very well.

 

[fannypack]

I look at it like this, Tomlin can bench guys like Sweed and Mendenhall because their backups. They lose depth, but they didn't lose a starter. So while it was significant thing, I don't think it was so detrimental to the Steerler's performance. Had he benched Holmes or Parker (pre-turf toe), then that would be more significant.

I think it's a matter of questioning the level of talent and depth on this team. When people scream that a player should be benched, I'd say bench them to get their point across. It's not like the results will be drastically different anyway. They were benched for a reason.

Fixed.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Fixed.

That's emotion talking. Justifiably so.

But would you would bench Bradie for Carpenter? Spencer for Octavien? Newman, Scandrick, or Jenkins for Alan Ball?

Bench Hamlin for who? They're down to two safeties as it is with Sensabaugh out.

I can't see this team benching anyone at the moment.

 

[fannypack]

Well, first things first. Since Jerry likes meddling anyway, he can bring his crypt keeper behind down to the field and put Wade behind the water cooler that Ellis said Ware was hiding behind. I'm tired of seeing the look of utter stupidity every time something goes wrong. Likewise, I don't expect to see our HC cheering when the other team misses a FG. We have cage dancers for that, Wade.

Next, I start holding some of these lazy *******s accountable. Flo, you want to trip, 3rd time? You can take a seat for the rest of the half to sit and think about it. Free, get your fat behind in the game, and if Romo gets sacked once you'll answer to me in practice.

Bennett, spend less time twittering about your 100 pairs of shoes and more time learning your routes and being an accountable player rather than a celebrity.

Newman, if you're going to get burned every game we'll go ahead and sideline you and let Scandrick take your place. You're a freaking veteran, get with the program.

Hamlin, you're a sad excuse for a leader. If you whiff on one more tackle you'll be practicing nothing but tackling technique and procedure all during practice, because apparently you do nothing else to amp your game up.

And I deliver this message myself. If Wade can't get the nuts for it, find someone who can.