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Where does Dak Prescott rank among QBs in NFL?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by quickccc, Jul 17, 2019.

  1. Irvin88_4life

    Irvin88_4life Well-Known Member

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    Dak can make all the throws you need. People say he can't throw a back shoulder fade tell them to go watch him throw one to Gallup against the Jags last season who have 2 very good CBs
     
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  2. Irvin88_4life

    Irvin88_4life Well-Known Member

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    Dak has never had a 8-8 season, he isn't Romo who did it 3 straight years. Dak has never had a losing record in the NFL and averages 11 wins a season.
     
  3. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    You can always count on the irvin88_4life troll to crank out an embarrassing take...
     
  4. GimmeTheBall!

    GimmeTheBall! Junior College Transfer

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    I like your enthusiasm for Dak.
    But Dak really is a middle of the pack QB. Count on it, lad.
     
  5. Irvin88_4life

    Irvin88_4life Well-Known Member

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    Stats say otherwise. It's not my fault you have a personal issue with Dak and blinded by your dislike.
     
  6. GimmeTheBall!

    GimmeTheBall! Junior College Transfer

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    You need a life.
    Go hiking or door to door for the Jehovah's.
     
  7. GimmeTheBall!

    GimmeTheBall! Junior College Transfer

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    OK
     
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  8. doomsday9084

    doomsday9084 Well-Known Member

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    Again, this seems like an attempt to give credit to a team stat to an individual. There are other factors at play. Dallas' huge offensive line and Zeke pound on people all game long. By the 4th quarter, they start to break down and Zeke starts getting his big runs.

    http://www.nfl.com/player/ezekielelliott/2555224/situationalstats?season=2018

    They effectively have "clutch" stats for RB's too. Zeke is a monster when the game is close late.

    I can say that without Zeke's clutch factor over the last three years, this is a 0.500 team at best too. The thing is, without Zeke, the Cowboys really are a 0.500 team without him.
    With Zeke 29-13
    Without Zeke 3-3
    This really happened.

    I would go further and point out that a lot of Dak's stats this past year were really short throws to Coop that he busted it long. Those yards go to Dak but the real playmaker there was Cooper.

    Again, I'm not completely trying to denigrate Dak. I just think that giving Dak the lion's share of the credit for wins is completely unfair to his teammates. Based on all the stats, Zeke, Cooper and the defense have the biggest impact on winning or losing.
     
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  9. charron

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    Him having high character is good. Anyone thinking he is worth 30 million a year isn't so good.
     
  10. Brax

    Brax Well-Known Member

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    6'2" maybe
     
  11. dallas72

    dallas72 Well-Known Member

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    Stafford is 6-46 vs teams over .500.....Stafford had arguably the greatest WR in last 15 years and has 0 playoff wins....Stafford puts up big yards all 4th Q because they are down by 20...Stafford isnt good
     
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  12. dallas72

    dallas72 Well-Known Member

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    Well Dak has all the intangibles you want a QB to have....poor coaching & playcalling have hurt him...He also hasnt had a #1 WR except for last 9 games....Dez was a shell....Dak also played in a offense built for Romo & dispite what people say our Oline has not been good..Dak running for his life every play...w a full camp with new WRs and return of our pro bowl Center..this is Daks best chance to show us
     
  13. percyhoward

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    Remember what you posted in the first place:

    "Basically, factors outside of Dak determine the outcome of games. He is a bus driver type that isn't going to lose you the game but if the rest of the team performs poorly (Rams game), Dak isn't saving you. If you look through the game log, the defensive performance is really what determines wins and losses."

    Now you've moved away from "defensive performance determines wins and losses," and "factors outside of Dak determine the outcome" to "Dak's performance isn't the only factor that determines the outcome."

    I agree 100% with your new take.
     
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  14. Streetwise

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    He hit Bryant a few times as well.
     
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  15. IndianaCowboys1994

    IndianaCowboys1994 Well-Known Member

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    My only question about rankings is why does it matter if Dak Prescott is a top 5 QB? In two-three years he will be outside the top ten in highest paid QBs...I think he can easily be anywhere from 6-12 in his prime. Here is a list of guys in the last 20 that won a Super Bowl and weren't top 5 QBs that year:
    2000 Dilfer
    2001 Brady
    2002 Johnson
    2005 Roethlisberger
    2007 Manning
    2008 Roethlisberger
    2011 Manning
    2012 Flacco
    2013 Wilson
    2015 Manning
    2017 Foles

    So of the last 19 Super Bowls 11 QB's were outside of the top 5 that season and about 8 were top 5 QBs. You don't need an All-Pro QB to win a Super Bowl, heck maybe not even a Pro-Bowl QB. Have a good roster around you, which Dallas does.
     
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  16. 817Gill

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    Somewhere in the 11-13 range this year. I think he'll be a bonafide top 10 guy going into next season.
     
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  17. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Regular Joe....

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    Don't start with this. Cousins is not a scrub and that situation is unique because of the teams but who cares, Cousins didn't make 30 so he's not in the discussion. Jimmy G didn't either so you have no point. Russell has won a Super Bowl and is flat better then any of thes other QBs. Dak aint Russell. So lets review. The statement was that Dak was 30 because it's the going rate. Well, we'll see but to this point, I haven't seen it yet and lastly, if no average QB is making 30 a year, then you can't make that statement because it isn't true. That's it, there is no middle ground there. No more reviews, there is nothing to review. That's the truth and unless you have credible evidence to refute that, there is nothing to review.
     
  18. IndianaCowboys1994

    IndianaCowboys1994 Well-Known Member

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    I just don't get the hate and disrespect on Dak. Just like I don't get the hate and disrespect Romo had.
     
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  19. OmerV

    OmerV Well-Known Member

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    You’re right that those guys aren’t the standard - the market has increased Since Garopplo and Cousins signed. As for Garoppolo, sure he was short of $30MM, but he also only had something like 80-90 regular season NFL passes under his belt.
     
  20. RJ_MacReady

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    You.Just.Don't.Get.It.

    Stay dense, Ponyboy...stay dense..
     

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