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Where does Dak Prescott rank among QBs in NFL?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by quickccc, Jul 17, 2019.

  1. JJHLH1

    JJHLH1 Well-Known Member

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    1. Brady (in a league of his own)
    2. Rodgers
    3. Mahommes
    4. Brees
    5. Wilson
    6. Luck
    7. Big Ben
    8. Rivers
    9. Dak
     
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  2. Number1

    Number1 Well-Known Member

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    Tells more about "your book" :)

    1 Tom Brady NE, confident and accurate, immobile, fun to watch
    2 Pat Mahomes KC, monster arm, weak 2 minute skills, needs to play in all passing O, can't manage a game
    3 Aaron Rodgers GB, aging miracle worker, wack environment, fun to watch
    4 Drew Brees NO, aging miracle worker, but throws 2 / + ridiculous shots a game (much like Romo, but less fragile)
    5 Russell Wilson Sea, super efficient, lacks arm strength, decent athlete, questionable leader
    6 Jared Goff LARa, great touch, a coward, often goes brain dead (I did want to draft him at the time - I was wrong
    7 Matt Ryan ATL, almost at the level of great, don't think he'll get there
    8 Phillip Rivers LAC,steady, don't think he'll get there
    9 Carlson Wentz Phil, lanky with a tendency to go brain dead, the combo I don't wish on even
    10 Andrew Luck Indy, on paper the most talented, but is yet to really deliver
    11 Ben Roesthlisberger Pitt, old, and declining fast under current workload
    12 Deshaun Watson Hou, hard to say - wack environment, is athlete enough
    13 DAK PRESCOTT Dal * wack environment, good athlete, weird mechanics, good leader, nice 2 minute skills
    14 Matthew Stafford Det, sucks, wack environment, losers to the bone
    15 Baker Mayfield Clev, hard to say - wack environment, is athlete enough
    16 Derek Carr Oak, sucks, cowardly, just looks he part
    17 Cam Newton Car, no touch, an adventure in the pocket, poor leader
    18 Mitch Trubisky Chic, mediocre athlete, team likes him, a leader?
    19 Nick Foles Jax, fragile, weak leader
    20 Kirk Cousins, fragile, weak leader, weak arm
     
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  3. Number1

    Number1 Well-Known Member

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    good advice
     
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  4. Silly

    Silly Well-Known Member

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    I would put Dak above Wentz & Luck. Both players maybe good when they are healthy. The problem is they have missed significant playing time.
     
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  5. irishline

    irishline Well-Known Member

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    If being destroyed by a defense is 16/31 295 yards, 3 TD, 0 INTs and leading your team to 31 points I will take it any day. Know how many times we scored 31 or more last year? You can count them on one hand (3). Yes he struggled like all do when pressure comes up the middle, but to say destroyed is a bit much. The defense is the reason they lost that game, not Pat.
     
  6. Idgit

    Idgit Fattening up Moderator

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    Not a fan of linear rankings, but I have Dak on the tier with Goff, Wentz, Watson, Stafford, and probably Mayfield. "Good enough to win with," basically.
     
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  7. Whirlwin

    Whirlwin Well-Known Member

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    He missed so many wide open receivers. Yes they destroyed him. He didn't do anything till late in the fourth quarter. He was putting up Hail Marys
     
  8. Whirlwin

    Whirlwin Well-Known Member

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    They destroyed him for 3/4. They let up. And then when they pressured him again they shut him down. What's the game again
     
  9. percyhoward

    percyhoward Research Tool

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    Traditional passer rating ranks him like this:
    1 Brees 106.4
    2 Ryan 105.7
    3 Brady 103.5
    4 Rodgers 100.3
    5 Wilson 98.7
    6 Luck 97.5
    7 Cousins 97.0
    8 Rivers 96.1
    9 Prescott 95.9
    10 Smith 95.3

    ESPN's Total QBR puts him here:
    1 Brady 73.5
    2 Ryan 71.5
    3 Brees 70.0
    4 Luck 68.8
    5 Prescott 68.4
    6 Rodgers 66.4
    7 Rthlsbrgr 66.3
    8 Rivers 63.3
    9 Wentz 63.2
    10 Wilson 62.1

    That's regular season. If you include playoffs, he moves up to 8th and 4th.
     
  10. DakPresgoat

    DakPresgoat Well-Known Member

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    Yeah but what does the “eye ball test” say?
     
  11. percyhoward

    percyhoward Research Tool

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    The statisticians who keep those records watch games with their elbows.
     
  12. RJ_MacReady

    RJ_MacReady mcompact

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    How many starting QB's got signed for a long term deal this off-season and who are they? Before the 2018 off-season, who would've thought that QB's like Cousins or Garoppolo would set the "average QB" market in the upper 20's (Cousin's is like close to or at $29M)? Who would've thought that Wilson would be making $35M a year average in his deal to be the highest paid QB? Is he worth it being paid that much? Sure. That's the market. In the 2020 offseason, don't be surprised if a very good QB gets a $36-37M contract.

    Cap goin' up, so contracts goin' up. It would be nice if they were all like Brees or Brady.

    Getting a quality QB like Dak for $25M was a pipe dream. He ain't 40 years old chasing his 2nd Lombardi at all costs or 41 year old QB with 6 rings, and a multi-millionaire wife, that's trying to hang around the league as long as his wizard coach keeps conjuring HFA playoff trips...
     
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  13. 12+88=7

    12+88=7 Well-Known Member

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    Let's speak in reality.

    You believe Prescott is better than Mahomes. If that's the case you would believe Prescott can throw for 5000 yards and 50 touchdowns in the same year. When have you seen anything watching Prescott that he has that ability in the passing game?

    That is the flaw in Prescott. He is above average, but not great or elite. He just doesn't have the "it" in the passing game to elevate him to the top tiers of QBs.

    This is just an example so don't take it the wrong way. Remember when some games Dallas wouldn't show up with a running game or defense and Romo would be asked to throw 40+ times for 400 yards and at least 3 touchdowns just to keep Dallas in the game. Well if you look at the very top QBs they have this trait. Once again, Prescott doesn't have this gear, he will never be a gunslinger. Not in his DNA.

    Put Prescott on Kansas City and he would be like Alex Smith. Andy Reid would start him, but he would be looking to upgrade. All because of the passing game.

    If Prescott were an elite QB, Dallas would be favorites. But he's above average, so they are just contenders.
     
  14. bsbellomy

    bsbellomy Well-Known Member

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    There isn't a GM in the NFL that would trade Baker Mayfield for Dak Prescott. He can make throws Dak only wakes up from.
     
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  15. Aerolithe_Lion

    Aerolithe_Lion Well-Known Member

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    Could I please have this quote as my signature? With your permission, of course.
     
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  16. Aerolithe_Lion

    Aerolithe_Lion Well-Known Member

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    So you're saying because Tom Brady doesn't run, Dak is somehow superior....?
     
  17. Zekeats

    Zekeats theranchsucks

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    Rodgers
    Mahomes
    Brady
    Rothlisberger
    Brees
    Luck
    Wilson
    Wentz
    Mayfield
    Stafford
    Rivers
    Ryan
    Prescott
    Newton
    Goff
    Everyone else
     
  18. Whirlwin

    Whirlwin Well-Known Member

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    First of all. Show me where I said Prescott is better than Mahomes. Second of all you can't interact different quarterbacks with different teams the scheme is different. Did you forget the Giants game The Ravens game where they turned Prescott loose. He was brilliant do you understand why we don't throw for that many yards. Do you know how many teams lose because they throw for too many yards. Throwing for yardage means absolutely nothing. Anything else you need me to explain to you
     
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  19. Whirlwin

    Whirlwin Well-Known Member

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    We took the youngest starting team in the league, to the second round of the playoffs and you call that average LOL
     
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  20. Whirlwin

    Whirlwin Well-Known Member

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    It's funny Mahomes blew the playoff game against the Patriots. Running backwards taking himself out of field-goal range was the mistake of the day. Patriots destroyed him with middle pressure. Only time he did good is when they backed off. I can't wait to see how the lead treat sitting now that they know his weaknesses
     
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