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Where does Dak Prescott rank among QBs in NFL?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by quickccc, Jul 17, 2019.

  1. Whirlwin

    Whirlwin Well-Known Member

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    You forgot the mistake of the day. Mahomes ran backwards took themselves out of field-goal range they lost. LMAO
     
  2. sunalsorises

    sunalsorises Well-Known Member

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    I'd consider the following QBs on my list

    Jonathon Moxon
    Shane Falco
    Willie Beamen
    Seth Maxwell
    Frank Cushman
    Ronnie “Sunshine” Bass
    Paul Blake

    The following QBs have too many issues

    Lance Harbor is always hurt
    Bo Callahan has questions about his toughness and leadership
    Jimmy Dix has attitude problems and drug issues

    I might take a flyer on "Bird" who was young and seemed to be pointed in the right direction after some early trouble with the law
     
  3. Dak_Attack_09

    Dak_Attack_09 Well-Known Member

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    How in the hell is Wentz ahead, that ******
     
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  4. 12+88=7

    12+88=7 Well-Known Member

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    You are ripping Mahomes on many post and saying that Prescott is better than some top tier QBs, you are implying this point when all your post are taken in totally.

    Schemes are different, but I can say with out a doubt, put Prescott in Kansas City and he would not throw for 5000 yards or 50 touchdowns. Doesn't have the ability.

    You point out a couple of games for Prescott being able to pass, but he has played in 48 games. Those games are outliers. I believe the other 95+ percent to be the true indicators of Prescott's passing abilities.

    The one comment you made is a classic, "throwing for yardage means absolutely nothing", in a passing league no less. A quarterback's ability to throw the ball is everything!
     
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  5. 12+88=7

    12+88=7 Well-Known Member

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    It was the defense that lead the team to the playoffs. The defense gave up 20.2 points a game last year. Make that number 27.2 and Dallas would have missed the playoffs.

    The success of the team this year will once again be on the defense. The defense shows up, Dallas wins. If they don't, Dallas will lose.
     
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  6. CowboyRoy

    CowboyRoy Well-Known Member

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    This list is a little screwy, but I put Goff down to like 15 or 16. Luck and Ben should be top 9. I put Dak in front of Wentz and Goff. I also put Mayfield up there. Ryan probably a little too high.
     
  7. sean10mm

    sean10mm Well-Known Member

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    When Romo was racking up high passing volume and losing, people wished he was more of a conservative game manager. They ignored the yards and touchdowns and complained about the interceptions.

    When Dak was being a conservative game manager, and losing people wished he was more of a downfield gunslinger. They ignored the low rate of turnovers and complained about the lack of yards and touchdowns.

    Maybe fans should ask how is it that Parcells went 10-6 with Qunicy Carter throwing 17 touchdowns, while Garrett went 8-8 in two seasons where Romo threw 30+ touchdowns.
     
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  8. DakPresgoat

    DakPresgoat Well-Known Member

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    It’s kind of funny how the QB rating and QBR lists you posted, pretty accurately reflect the best QB’s in the league. Guys like Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Luck, Ryan, Russell Wilson, all being toward the top.

    But then when it comes to Dak....... nah. His numbers aren’t an accurate reflection.
     
  9. cowboyblue22

    cowboyblue22 Well-Known Member

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  10. CowboyRoy

    CowboyRoy Well-Known Member

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    Dak has operated in a run first, dumbed down offense under Garrett with marginal, slow, pass catchers. The offense rarely went deep or was aggressive.

    When we had to use the hurry up, spread offense late in games Dak bloomed. Its why he has so many late game comeback wins. We also saw what happened when he got a high caliber WR to throw to in Cooper.

    You put Dak in a high powered offense like KC with all those weapons and he would take off. Cant say he would put up Mahones numbers, but he would put up much better numbers. If you understand schemes, offense, and coaching, then its easy for you to see this point.

    IF Dak didn't have the skills, then these late game heroics he has led the NFL in would never happen.
     
  11. DakPresgoat

    DakPresgoat Well-Known Member

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    He could have a horseshoe up his butt. Did you ever consider that?
     
  12. CowboyRoy

    CowboyRoy Well-Known Member

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    If the Oline stays healthy, this offense and Dak is going to be near unstoppable. But that is under the assumption that Moore knows what he is doing.
     
  13. Whirlwin

    Whirlwin Well-Known Member

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    You think that would have made a difference
     
  14. Whirlwin

    Whirlwin Well-Known Member

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    Yet it was the defense that blew the Rams game. Make no mistake about it Prescott is a winner
     
  15. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    That’s fair though I would trade Prescott for Stafford, Mayfield or Carr straight up in a heartbeat

    I think Dak is way overrated on this board and by this incompetent organization
     
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  16. Whirlwin

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    So you think because you get a lot of yardage passing makes you a better quarterback. Did you ever take into consideration that's not what this team is about. They don't want to overexpose the youngest defense in the league that's why we played ball controls Smash Mouth. I don't know what's going to happen this season but Prescott is a winner yes statistically he's top four
     
  17. dckid

    dckid Well-Known Member

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    Good list. The only change I would make as of today is move Newton above Dak, but after this year I could definitely see Baker Mayfield moving past Dak. I would drop Goff to the same level as Dak.
    There is not much anyone can argue, Dak is a middle of the pack QB. It's great for him that he will get highly compensated. Let's say all these QB's hit the market and team's were signing these guys, Dak would go in the 13-18 range.
    We as Cowboys fans should be happy to have Dak. Our FO and coaches should be focused on how to unlock Dak even more. I wish we would use more PA, more moving of the pocket. More Qb runs. Play him like Russell Wilson from a few years ago. The glass is full of water.
    Do I think he is worth 30 million. No , but I’m not sure if it matters what I think. Qb’s unfortunately have the leverage. I just want a fair deal where if Dak doesn’t perform the Cowboys won’t be in another Romo or Flacco situation. If Dak outperforms give him an out after 3 years. If Dak plays his cards this will not be his last big contract.
    If the team keeps on winning he will continue to get paid well. No other team has this cachet in the league. Be the one to lead Dallas to a SB after 24 years.
     
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  18. Whirlwin

    Whirlwin Well-Known Member

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    You have to score more than your opponent. LOL and that's the offense. Wait until we RedZone score this season and not leave points on the field
     
  19. Whirlwin

    Whirlwin Well-Known Member

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    Statistically teams that passed for high yardage lose the game. This is not the same old NFL hits about ball control
     
  20. DakPresgoat

    DakPresgoat Well-Known Member

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    Stafford or Carr? Yuck.
     
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