Where is Crawford?

[DFWJC]

Players can practice all they want. But it's what they do on the games that count and crawford hasn't done anything in the games.

I agree on tapping the breaks, however....
Where are these mysterious games you speak of?
Has he ever played in a 4-3 in a regular season game?

 

[CCBoy]

He's like 280 lbs. Jay Ratliff played DT around 285 and was always undersized. Crawford is almost perfectly build to be a strong side 5 tech.

So no, you're not even close to being right.

Care to explain what weight John Randle was coming in, prior to going into the Hall?

 

[silver]

Care to explain what weight John Randle was coming in, prior to going into the Hall?

around 260

 

[CCBoy]

around 260

Middle 250's as he walked onto the field for a try out, coming from Texas A&I.

 

[Future]

Care to explain what weight John Randle was coming in, prior to going into the Hall?

Idk what he was when he came in, but he played at like 290.

Regardless, that doesn't change the fact that the post I responded to was incorrect in saying that he'd play DT on every other team in the league. He simply wouldn't...and that's not even including the number of 34 teams where he wouldn't be playing the nose.

Randle was also 3 inches shorter than Crawford, which makes it much easier to play an interior position if you're a bit lighter.

 

[CCBoy]

Idk what he was when he came in, but he played at like 290.

Regardless, that doesn't change the fact that the post I responded to was incorrect in saying that he'd play DT on every other team in the league. He simply wouldn't...and that's not even including the number of 34 teams where he wouldn't be playing the nose.

Randle was also 3 inches shorter than Crawford, which makes it much easier to play an interior position if you're a bit lighter.

Size/numbers for candidates at DE/OLB for the Cowboys, in this past draft:

Jadeveon Clowney - 6'5", 266 lbs., 4.53 speed - check, check, check

• Khalil Mack - 6'3", 251 lbs., 4.65 speed. disqualified because of height

• Anthony Barr - 6'5", 255 lbs., 4.66 speed - check, check, check

• Kony Ealy - 6'4", 273 lbs., 4.92 speed - disqualified on speed

• Dee Ford - 6'2", 243 lbs., 4.60 speed - disqualified because of height and weight.

• Scott Crichton - 6'3", 273 lbs., 4.84 speed - disqualified on height and speed

• Dominique Easley - 6'2", 288 lbs., 4.84 speed - disqualified on height, weight, & speed

• Trent Murphy - 6'5", 250 lbs., 4.84 speed - disqualified on speed

• Marcus Smith - 6'3", 251 lbs., 4.68 speed - disqualified on height

• Jeremiah Attaochu - 6'3", 251 lbs., 4.71 speed - disqualified on height

• Demarcus Lawrence - 6'3", 251 lbs., 4.80 speed - disqualified on height and speed

• Kareem Martin - 6'6", 272 lbs., 4.72 speed - check, check, check

• Chris Smith - 6'1", 266 lbs., 4.71 speed - disqualified on height

• Taylor Hart - 6'6", 281 lbs. 5.04 speed - disqualified on weight and speed

• Adrian Hubbard - 6'6", 257 lbs., 4.69 speed - check, check, check

• Ben Gardner - 6'4", 275 lbs. 4.87 speed - disqualified on speed

• Will Clarke - 6'6", 271 lbs., 4.77 speed - barely disqualified on speed.

• Jackson Jeffcoat - 6'3", 247 lbs., 4.63 speed - disqualified on height

• James Gayle - 6'4", 259 lbs. 4.70 speed - check, check, check

 

[CCBoy]

The size measureables for Crawford:

Tyrone Crawford
DE #98
Height:
6-4
Weight:
284
Age:
24


DT Aaron Donald is generating major buzz in the final weeks of the pre-draft process. Originally looked at as a late first round prospect, Donald’s tape and workouts have now convinced many evaluators that he could and should be a top 10 pick.

NFL scouts seem to agree with the draftnik assessment of Donald’s value. One AFC executive reportedly told Ian Rapoport that he thinks Donald is the best defensive lineman to come out in the last ten years, comparing Donald to Hall of Fame defensive tackle John Randle.

That sounds like hyperbole, but there is a basis for the comparison at least in terms of physical attributes and raw skill set. Donald has the same compact build as Randle and possesses a similar explosive quickness on the inside of the line.

Randle in his day revolutionized the defensive tackle position, completely changing how personnel people evaluate interior defensive linemen. After Randle, defensive tackles no longer had to be big, beefy and powerful.

Playing half his games on the Metrodome turf, where his quickness was maximized, Randle became an absolute terror for NFL quarterbacks, compiling numbers that would eventually land him in Canton.

Players like Donald are the beneficiaries of the revolution Randle started. Once upon a time, a DT as small as Donald would never have gotten this kind of attention. Even now, there are some dissenters who think Donald is too small to be an every-down interior lineman in the NFL.

But there are a lot of people who take the opposite view. They believe Donald can be a dominating force in the league, the next Geno Atkins.

Mike Zimmer knows all about Atkins and the impact he can have on a game with his explosive penetration. The Vikings right now have Sharrif Floyd penciled in as their starting 3-tech, but their pursuit of Henry Melton in free agency has convinced many that Zimmer is not high on Floyd’s abilities.

If Zimmer thinks an upgrade is needed at defensive tackle, Donald could be the man they are targeting. If you want to sell Donald to Viking fans, just keep mentioning John Randle.

That works.
http://thevikingage.com/2014/04/25/vikings-draft-aaron-donald-compared-john-randle/

This was the weight of Randle during his playing days: only 6'1" and 267 lbs

 

[Future]

The size measureables for Crawford:

Tyrone Crawford
DE #98
Height:
6-4
Weight:
284
Age:
24


DT Aaron Donald is generating major buzz in the final weeks of the pre-draft process. Originally looked at as a late first round prospect, Donald’s tape and workouts have now convinced many evaluators that he could and should be a top 10 pick.

NFL scouts seem to agree with the draftnik assessment of Donald’s value. One AFC executive reportedly told Ian Rapoport that he thinks Donald is the best defensive lineman to come out in the last ten years, comparing Donald to Hall of Fame defensive tackle John Randle.

That sounds like hyperbole, but there is a basis for the comparison at least in terms of physical attributes and raw skill set. Donald has the same compact build as Randle and possesses a similar explosive quickness on the inside of the line.

Randle in his day revolutionized the defensive tackle position, completely changing how personnel people evaluate interior defensive linemen. After Randle, defensive tackles no longer had to be big, beefy and powerful.

Playing half his games on the Metrodome turf, where his quickness was maximized, Randle became an absolute terror for NFL quarterbacks, compiling numbers that would eventually land him in Canton.

Players like Donald are the beneficiaries of the revolution Randle started. Once upon a time, a DT as small as Donald would never have gotten this kind of attention. Even now, there are some dissenters who think Donald is too small to be an every-down interior lineman in the NFL.

But there are a lot of people who take the opposite view. They believe Donald can be a dominating force in the league, the next Geno Atkins.

Mike Zimmer knows all about Atkins and the impact he can have on a game with his explosive penetration. The Vikings right now have Sharrif Floyd penciled in as their starting 3-tech, but their pursuit of Henry Melton in free agency has convinced many that Zimmer is not high on Floyd’s abilities.

If Zimmer thinks an upgrade is needed at defensive tackle, Donald could be the man they are targeting. If you want to sell Donald to Viking fans, just keep mentioning John Randle.

That works.
http://thevikingage.com/2014/04/25/vikings-draft-aaron-donald-compared-john-randle/

This was the weight of Randle during his playing days: only 6'1" and 267 lbs

It's like you're making the argument that I said he would never be a DT and are ignoring what I originally responded to.

He wouldn't play DT on every team in this league other than Dallas.

 

[CCBoy]

It's like you're making the argument that I said he would never be a DT and are ignoring what I originally responded to.

He wouldn't play DT on every team in this league other than Dallas.

This isn't relevant either...

During the 1990 NFL draft Randle was not selected in part because of his small size for the position he played. His play at Texas A & M did merit a workout with the Atlanta Falcons, but they declined to sign him because they believed he was out of shape. A week later, the Minnesota Vikings invited him to training camp, and Randle was later signed to a free agent contract. He played his heart out to prove his value to the team.

He would ONLY have made it on Minnesota because of necessity...clamor speaks, and 'non' obvious comparisons.

As if speed of penetration wasn't the variable creating good play...for either a 'Rat' or John Randle. Whether at the nose or off the tackle, and as used by Dallas.

 

[CCBoy]

Just so that people aren't moaning in the streets,

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This isn't relevant either...

During the 1990 NFL draft Randle was not selected in part because of his small size for the position he played. His play at Texas A & I did merit a workout with the Atlanta Falcons, but they declined to sign him because they believed he was out of shape. A week later, the Minnesota Vikings invited him to training camp, and Randle was later signed to a free agent contract. He played his heart out to prove his value to the team.

He would ONLY have made it on Minnesota because of necessity...clamor speaks, and 'non' obvious comparisons.

As if speed of penetration wasn't the variable creating good play...for either a 'Rat'; or John Randle. Whether at the nose or off the tackle, and as used by Dallas.

 

[Future]

This isn't relevant either...

During the 1990 NFL draft Randle was not selected in part because of his small size for the position he played. His play at Texas A & M did merit a workout with the Atlanta Falcons, but they declined to sign him because they believed he was out of shape. A week later, the Minnesota Vikings invited him to training camp, and Randle was later signed to a free agent contract. He played his heart out to prove his value to the team.

He would ONLY have made it on Minnesota because of necessity...clamor speaks, and 'non' obvious comparisons.

As if speed of penetration wasn't the variable creating good play...for either a 'Rat' or John Randle. Whether at the nose or off the tackle, and as used by Dallas.

Good info, but to my point, no it's not.

 

[CCBoy]

Good info, but to my point, no it's not.

You can't state your point from your countered stance, in your original post...without retracting. Unless you are counting on the Great Oz.

Bark of the dog is all important in football...not a barking at the dog.

 

[Future]

You can't state your point from your countered stance, in your original post...without retracting. Unless you are counting on the Great Oz.

Bark of the dog is all important in football...not a barking at the dog.

Stop speaking in hieroglyphics

 

[CCBoy]

Stop speaking in hieroglyphics

Read what's there, ignore, or keep your own standards to yourself...as you still didn't contribute farther than a one sided pissing contest.

If one didn't agree with misfits taking the day in Dallas,you just don't discuss it, and if you don't understand that...take it back to school, because you aren't tough enough for the block.

 

[Future]

Read what's there, ignore, or keep your own standards to yourself...as you still didn't contribute farther than a one sided pissing contest.

If one didn't agree with misfits taking the day in Dallas,you just don't discuss it, and if you don't understand that...take it back to school, because you aren't tough enough for the block.

What does this even mean? lol

I'm not tough enough for the block b/c I think Tyrone Crawford wouldn't be a DT on every team in the league despite what you say about John Randle?

 

[CCBoy]

What does this even mean? lol

I'm not tough enough for the block b/c I think Tyrone Crawford wouldn't be a DT on every team in the league despite what you say about John Randle?

Don't play in streets either...

 

[supercowboy8]

I agree on tapping the breaks, however....
Where are these mysterious games you speak of?
Has he ever played in a 4-3 in a regular season game?

No that's why I'm waiting to see. As parcells would say, "let's put the anointing oil away for now"

 

[supercowboy8]

The answer is simple...in Service, one trained as if it were live. That applies to football as well. Unless the player is a fool.

It's practice. In games it's different and it's really different than the military. The players changes your playing against and you have to play all game long. It's football it's practice. Players look great in practice all the time but never show up in season

 

[TimHortons]

I was trying to riff on the McNabb-to-TO 'keep your name out of my mouth' quote, but I think I failed.

That makes so much more sense now

 

[CCBoy]

It's practice. In games it's different and it's really different than the military. The players changes your playing against and you have to play all game long. It's football it's practice. Players look great in practice all the time but never show up in season

Not at all, sorry Charlie, your stereotypes fail. You practice as you play...as the original quote went down.