Where is Crawford?

[Pessimist_cowboy]

He's like 280 lbs. Jay Ratliff played DT around 285 and was always undersized. Crawford is almost perfectly build to be a strong side 5 tech.

So no, you're not even close to being right.

Ratliff was a NT not a DT let's get the position right first . No other team would have Crawford at DE . He's way too slow and non agile . DE's in a 4-3 are fast , explosive , lanky , non of which Crawford has . You're way off .

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

NT and DT are two different positions . In a 3-4 he'd be a DE . In a 4-3 Crawford is not a 4/3 DE on any other team . He doesn't have any of the characteristics of a 4-3 DE. I'd compare crawfords body to a Randle / Glover mold with the exception of being taller . Not in this dumb Front office . He's going to get smoked week 1 vs the read option . Way too slow to be playing DE.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

The size measureables for Crawford:

Tyrone Crawford
DE #98
Height:
6-4
Weight:
284
Age:
24


DT Aaron Donald is generating major buzz in the final weeks of the pre-draft process. Originally looked at as a late first round prospect, Donald’s tape and workouts have now convinced many evaluators that he could and should be a top 10 pick.

NFL scouts seem to agree with the draftnik assessment of Donald’s value. One AFC executive reportedly told Ian Rapoport that he thinks Donald is the best defensive lineman to come out in the last ten years, comparing Donald to Hall of Fame defensive tackle John Randle.

That sounds like hyperbole, but there is a basis for the comparison at least in terms of physical attributes and raw skill set. Donald has the same compact build as Randle and possesses a similar explosive quickness on the inside of the line.

Randle in his day revolutionized the defensive tackle position, completely changing how personnel people evaluate interior defensive linemen. After Randle, defensive tackles no longer had to be big, beefy and powerful.

Playing half his games on the Metrodome turf, where his quickness was maximized, Randle became an absolute terror for NFL quarterbacks, compiling numbers that would eventually land him in Canton.

Players like Donald are the beneficiaries of the revolution Randle started. Once upon a time, a DT as small as Donald would never have gotten this kind of attention. Even now, there are some dissenters who think Donald is too small to be an every-down interior lineman in the NFL.

But there are a lot of people who take the opposite view. They believe Donald can be a dominating force in the league, the next Geno Atkins.

Mike Zimmer knows all about Atkins and the impact he can have on a game with his explosive penetration. The Vikings right now have Sharrif Floyd penciled in as their starting 3-tech, but their pursuit of Henry Melton in free agency has convinced many that Zimmer is not high on Floyd’s abilities.

If Zimmer thinks an upgrade is needed at defensive tackle, Donald could be the man they are targeting. If you want to sell Donald to Viking fans, just keep mentioning John Randle.

That works.
http://thevikingage.com/2014/04/25/vikings-draft-aaron-donald-compared-john-randle/

This was the weight of Randle during his playing days: only 6'1" and 267 lbs

6"4 284 that's the size of a 3-4 DE perhaps the team forgot we moved to a 4-3 ?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Crawford needs to learn to use his hands better both in keeping hands off of him off the ball and also in getting past. He has a very good first step. I don't have a good feel for how his balance is.

I also don't know how well he is getting off blocks and tackling in the run game. The Chargers were content to run inside through gaping holes and didn't challenge outside runs on the 1's. Martez Wilson was another story but at least it gave Ken Bishop something to chase.

 

[CCBoy]

6"4 284 that's the size of a 3-4 DE perhaps the team forgot we moved to a 4-3 ?

I am a Crawford fan...but lol.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

For our personnel we've got it should look like this :

LDE : Lawrence , Selvie
DT : Melton , Bishop , Bush
DT: Crawford , McClaine
RDE: Spencer , Mincey

 

[CT Dal Fan]

For our personnel we've got it should look like this :

LDE : Lawrence , Selvie
DT : Melton , Bishop , Bush
DT: Crawford , McClaine
RDE: Spencer , Mincey

Lawrence is best off at right end. The left end (typically) sets the edge against the run; so you'd want a bigger guy like Selvie or Crawford there.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

6"4 284 that's the size of a 3-4 DE perhaps the team forgot we moved to a 4-3 ?

That is not the size of a 3-4 DE. It's under 290 but if you are going to two gap then 285 is on the low side

Tall, long arms, quick/explosive first step, burst upfield. You could see all of that watching him try to jump over Fluker to get a swat at Rivers as he steps up in the pocket @SDG. I have no idea why you say he is slow and not agile. He can play end esp against the leagues RT.

His rookie year was the lockout season and of course last year was the achilles. This is the first season where he is using the techniques Marinelli uses. His 2 gap experience from 2012 doesn't help much now. He will get better at keeping guys off him as he trains.

Don't worry he has a learning curve so it's likely to be awkward at first. You can find joy in his imperfections there.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

It is the size of a 3-4 DE . They drafted Crawford to be a 3-4 DE . Crawfords body is in no way shape or form made to play DE in a 4-3 . Lol he is not quick and agile LOOOOL . You're one of those delusional cowboys fans that thinks everyone's a pro bowler , and that jerry jones is flawless smh .

 

[coach steele]

I think that Crawford has the body type to be a very good 4-3 left end. However, as someone mentioned previously, he needs to clean up his technique.

 

[coult44]

Im prettty sure Tyrone Crawford practiced yesterday. Yet there has been nothing said about him, and honestly haven't heard much about him period. Is there any saviors on this defensive line lol. I did read that Selvie had pads on which is somewhat of a relief.

Crawford is a guy who has played about 200 plays in his career. He's a guy who in those 200+ plays he did nothing special. In fact average or just below average. Why he's been so highly talked about is still a mystery to me...

 

[Future]

Ratliff was a NT not a DT let's get the position right first . No other team would have Crawford at DE . He's way too slow and non agile . DE's in a 4-3 are fast , explosive , lanky , non of which Crawford has . You're way off .

In at 34 the NT is a DT...

But the left side doesn't have to be a fast DE...it's probably not even supposed to be that kind of a player. An elite passrusher Crawford isn't going to be, that shoudln't be the expectation. But it's also not really what is always asked of a strong side DE.

You can't compare him to guys like Ware...you compare him to someone like Israel Idonije. Crawford only has 5ish pounds on Idonije...but nobody has a problem with him playing DE. Robert Geathers would probably be a good comparison as well, he's at 286. Speed rushing edge players aren't the only kind of DE that exist in the world...

Cam Jordan and Mario Williams both play at like 290...they might be more skilled than Crawford but it's not like they are speed rushing. In a 43, one of your ends has to be big or the run defense is going to be putrid...look at Indy when they had Freeney and Mathis. Not every 43 end is a small fast player.

 

[supercowboy8]

Not at all, sorry Charlie, your stereotypes fail. You practice as you play...as the original quote went down.

No that's stupid. Football and the military are completely different. Please never compare the two.
Also practice is that practice. The game is different. It's 60 minutes vs a different player you may have never played against. In practice you go up against the same guys over and over and they are not going 100 full go.

I hope crawford is the MVP, we need someone to step up. But I have never seen him do it in a game so until he does he is still a JAG to me.

 

[AsthmaField]

All these guys played 43 DE:

Reggie White played SDE at 6-5 300 lbs.

Clyde Simmons played opposite him on the weakside at 6-5 290 lbs.

Julius Peppers plays at 6-7 290 lbs.

Greg Hardy plays at 6-4 278 lbs.

Michael Strahan was 6-5 278 lbs. when he came into the NFL. He eventually lost down into the 255 260 range near the end of his career.

Red Bryant played end for Seattle at over 300 pounds.

All of those guys are pretty close to Crawford except for Pepper's height and Bryant's pudge.

 

[TheDude]

4 pages in...
Has he been found? or still searching?

 

[Idgit]

It is the size of a 3-4 DE . They drafted Crawford to be a 3-4 DE . Crawfords body is in no way shape or form made to play DE in a 4-3 . Lol he is not quick and agile LOOOOL . You're one of those delusional cowboys fans that thinks everyone's a pro bowler , and that jerry jones is flawless smh .

This is the kind of post that gets made when someone has given up on an argument but just doesn't want to admit it.

 

[Nirvana]

Will he be the starting SDE against the 49ers?

 

[CCBoy]

No that's stupid. Football and the military are completely different. Please never compare the two.
Also practice is that practice. The game is different. It's 60 minutes vs a different player you may have never played against. In practice you go up against the same guys over and over and they are not going 100 full go.

I hope crawford is the MVP, we need someone to step up. But I have never seen him do it in a game so until he does he is still a JAG to me.

Look no time in grade, with the vibrating lips...er quivering pie hole...see a recruiter and come back to earth. Life on the block never leads an inch past booze, drugs, or crime. Your method of accomplishment never arrives.

You build by crawling, walking, and then running...but if you don't get to running...you GET BEAT!

You take that rah rah of yours, and try to build ANY organization that isn't criminal...and come back and tell us about it.

But lay off the term...STUPID...next time. UNDERSTAND?

Your time warp missed Wade Phillips...