Where would you rank Dak?

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  1. Proof

    Proof Well-Known Member

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    Specifically.


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    Where do you slot him and who above and below?

    And if he’s outside the top ten by all means show your work as well.

    “Top ten” , “Top fifteen” etc are abstract concepts without people occupying the spots. So what say you?
     
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  2. glimmerman

    glimmerman Well-Known Member

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    Top 10 or top 12. He is above average. Just going by stats. He need to improve and I think he will.
     
  3. GenoT

    GenoT Well-Known Member

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    In before any reference to Dak’s predecessor!

    :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
     
  4. jazzcat22

    jazzcat22 Well-Known Member

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    So where is your work on this? :laugh:
     
  5. Aerolithe_Lion

    Aerolithe_Lion Well-Known Member

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    Top 10? better than Matt Ryan who had arguably a better year than his mvp season? Better than Rivers who just went 12-4 and lit up the chiefs? How many people are in your top 10? 15?
     
  6. jazzcat22

    jazzcat22 Well-Known Member

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    1. Dak, no need to list any others. :muttley:

    So don't everyone get all up in a wad, I hope you do know I am not serious.

    But I would say 12 to 15 range stat wise and overall, but with the game on the line, as he has shown, he is in the 8 to 12 range. Maybe a little higher.
    However that is based on seeing all the games, and not all the other QB's games. We get a slanted perspective on both wins and losses.
     
  7. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    Between 18-20.
     
  8. Coy

    Coy Well-Known Member

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    16 to 20

    In no particular order.
    No doubt I`d take: Brady, Ben, Mayfield, Rivers, Mahomes, Watson, Luck, Rodgers, Stafford, Ryan, Brees, Cam, Wentz, Goff and Wilson over Dak,

    Cousins, Mariota, Jimmy G, and others are comparable, then you have the young ones that are not included here like Arnold and Allen that could end up being better.
     
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  9. Kage

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    1. Rodgers
    2. Brady
    3. Brees
    4. Mahomes
    5. Wilson
    6. Rivers
    7. Luck
    8. Ryan
    9.(Maybe Dak) Few others I lump together around here. Wentz/Goff/Watson/Newton/Roethlisberger/Stafford
    Then everyone else.
     
  10. glimmerman

    glimmerman Well-Known Member

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    Take it how you wish. I think he is top 10 or top 12. That’s based on he and his teams body of work with a 3 year sample size. The other 2 that you mentioned and others that would be ranked above him have had a longer career.

    It’s like you trying to place wentz, he has had 3 years and has missed time with injuries.
     
  11. dallas72

    dallas72 Well-Known Member

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    Matt Ryan is overrated...he has a good oline had 2 RBs 1 pro bowler..arguably the best WR and always had weapons. Dak had a injured Dez.. 3 backup Olineman and No TE...Ryan is terrible in the playoffs . not clutch & chokes in big situations .. hes Matt Stafford at best.. Dak is a top 10-12 QB this will be his telling year....
     
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  12. cowboyblue22

    cowboyblue22 Well-Known Member

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    he is around 15 he like his head coach is average
     
  13. dallas72

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    Remove Ryan hes a choke artist w a terrible playoff record... 4-6..hes not clutch
     
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  14. Aerolithe_Lion

    Aerolithe_Lion Well-Known Member

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    Mahomes has played less than Dak. So has Watson, so has Mayfield. Your point by saying everyone ahead of him has played longer is those three are all inferior to Dak Prescott?
     
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  15. jazzcat22

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    Brady, yes
    Ben, yes but he is on the downside
    Mayfield, no, need to see him this year first
    Rivers, yes, but you can also say overall comparable as you listed a few in that category, long career stats does not make him better overall
    Mahomes, yes, but also need to see his 2nd full season, but yes
    Watson, no, give me Dak for now, need to see more from Watson, I am not all that impressed yet
    Luck, yes
    Rodgers, yes
    Stafford, not really, put him in with Rivers, neither has won over their careers, just stat guys
    Ryan, yes, but in a way no, got team to the SB, but look at his surrounding cast also. have you truly seen him carry the team
    Brees, yes
    Cam, not from the past season, but yes in his 3rs year and a few after. but not now, but he could be again
    Wentz, no, not rally, but comparible
    Goff, yes he has shown a lot in his 2 years as a full time starter
    Wilson, yes, but he also had the D that Dak needs, and he has improved over the years, so still at this point, yes
     
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  16. The Quest for Six

    The Quest for Six Well-Known Member

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    Mid to late teens
     
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  17. CowboysFaninHouston

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    not going to say who is number 1 or not...but those who rank above him as of today, regardless of age.

    I take any of these today, over Dak.
    Brady
    Brees
    Rodgers
    Newton
    Rivers
    Rothlisberger
    Wilson
    Watson
    mahomes
    Stafford
    grapolo
    ryan
    wentz
    luck

    the next group can be debated ad naseum

    Goeff
    Mayfield
    cousins
    turbisky
    carr
    mariota

    other young QBs that maybe up and coming but not where Dak is today.
    Darnold


    so depending on the debate that puts dak in the middle of the pack, which has been the argument all along, with Dak lovers, keep spitting out meaningless stats comparing him to some of the all time greats like marino, montana, Elway, brady, etc.....


    and yes, the Cowboys won 13 games in 2016...as Dak lovbers like to make it, it was all dak all the time...the 3 losses was because the OL didn't give him protection, the WRs dropped balls, the defense didn't play well, the play calls were awful...but man those 13 wins were all Dak
     
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  18. Cowboysfan917

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  19. glimmerman

    glimmerman Well-Known Member

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    Ok. Most of the ones above him has longer careers.

    And mayfield has played 1 season and Dak had better stats. I think watson who looks good only player 1 1/2 seasons. And mahomes who looks good has really only played 1 year. With that little of a playing time it’s hard to know if they will continue to play at that level. It’s not that they don’t deserve to be on the list just hard to evaluate.
     
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  20. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    I’d say bottom third. Over the last two years combined he’s ranked about #20 in most rate stats, but I’d argue he’s worse than that due to dinking and dunking.
     

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